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Madebymonkeys

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« Reply #1560 on: October 25, 2013, 11:00:40 PM »
hey @ maybemade if youre prepared to up the prize to £150000 i,l do exactly that with the ipod no problemo :-).i can do it publicly or privately for you its up to you.if i tell sarkeizen to go consult a college textbook and build a zinc-electrode concentration cell at standard or ambient pressure and temperature he has no problem with it.if i tell sarkeizen to go consult a college textbook and build an oxygen-electrode concentration cell at standard or ambient pressure and temperature he has a problem with it,i dont know why sir,he keeps demanding citations when i already cited the rules applicable to all such type of cells.he is behaving in an unusualy rebellious manner.

Hi P,
I thought it was easy and well documented! Certainly sounds like its an expensive thing to build!
Public demo would be fine - payment once it's proven to last forever :-)

I have to admit, I am a little skeptical as to the cell ability to operate forever. Have you built one or is there a report of someone running some electronics from one of these batteries that they have built?
Maybe its cost prohibitive?

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« Reply #1561 on: October 26, 2013, 08:31:31 AM »
@sarkeizen i already cited rules,go build.

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« Reply #1562 on: October 26, 2013, 09:02:36 AM »
@madebymonkeys concentration cells are well documented sir, different college books give different examples and this example behaves no different to others,until you switch it off.i dont know why they didnt focus on this particular example and expand on it though sir,thats a mystery. yes corrosion resistant components are usually frighteningly expensive but not always,there are ways round this.yes theres one such device on display in romania,its been turning quite a large motor(needs milliamps) nonstop for about 70years,maybe longer. my research focuses on commercial viability so i test very small samples of material and then get an idea of how bigger samples will behave.if you give me some time to get the demo set-up sorted then all will be perfect :-).are you going to be around? If i drop you a pm when im ready will you see it?     

profitis

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« Reply #1563 on: October 27, 2013, 10:06:08 AM »
heres a variation of quenco that anyone can build

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« Reply #1564 on: October 27, 2013, 06:11:19 PM »
heres a variation of quenco that anyone can build
so i just need sulfuric acid and platinum? how would i set this up, and isn't pure platinum exceedingly expensive?

profitis

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« Reply #1565 on: October 27, 2013, 07:34:47 PM »
yes.preferably platinized(black) platinum for currents upward of 100microamp/cm2.dilute sulfuric,phosphoric acids will do fine.alum is fine,sodium sulfate is fine,magnesium sulfate is fine.ammonium sulfate is fine.sodium bicarbonate is fine,sodium hydroxide is exellent.sodium carbonate is exellent.its way too expensive to be practical but its exquisite for scientific study and scrutiny.its relation to the proposed quenco(the cathode work function adjusts to its potential,the anode work function adjusts to its potential)is too important to ignore.

sarkeizen

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« Reply #1566 on: October 28, 2013, 03:17:14 PM »
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So far no textbook cites.  Your promise, multiple times over was to cite a textbook, in fact your whole thesis was "the textbooks say/predict you can make a battery which will run and ipod like device forever".  Yet nothing from a textbook has been cited.  As demonstrated earlier it's pretty doubtful that textbooks say any such thing.  Without a textbook cite, you don't have an argument to refute.  Which I suppose helps you keep your self-esteem since there is no argument to destroy as long as you keep hiding it. So I guess I can understand that. :D

Keep on trolling, EOA don't let thinking people lure you out into the open.  Keep on hiding.

profitis

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« Reply #1567 on: October 28, 2013, 07:44:07 PM »
@sarkeizen by the rules.play the ball where it lies.here the respective potential adjusts to the respective surface work function:

lancaIV

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« Reply #1568 on: October 28, 2013, 08:39:26 PM »
Whow,but it is not easier to take a silver or
 chemalloy http://chemalloy.blogspot.pt/2012/01/chemalloy-samuel-freedman.html
spoon and do this catalysator,the spoon,into a glas of water ?


Mother held her little spoon
twenty minutes under water
not to make it any trouble
but to see the fine O² bubbles
                                                we are all very Lime-rick


Sincerely
              OCWdL

profitis

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« Reply #1569 on: October 28, 2013, 09:20:06 PM »
@lanca aha.try silver and cobalt together in borax solution :-).

lancaIV

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« Reply #1570 on: October 28, 2013, 10:10:01 PM »
the silver would be transmutated by the cobalt radioactivity and inside borax there would be the need to calculate the different elements attraction/repulsion forces .


Cobalt is not a conventional in  household preparing solution .
Why making life harder ?


A chemalloy quirl,with rough surface (friction ! nascent oxygen: elemental growth ) and this as part from a centrifugal working rotor, be turned by free energy(wind ,water,bicycle) or electric motor ?


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profitis

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« Reply #1571 on: October 28, 2013, 11:12:18 PM »
screeech brakes on @lanca! Jumping the gun here ey? Jumping into lenrs territory already i see but we have to keep it simple for the audience (-:.silver and cobalt are a good karpen setup.large difference in oxygen potential on those two in alkaline media.we can substitute nickel for cobalt then for convenience but its not as good. About that alloy,is it not galvanic powered electrolysis perhaps? I see zinc and aluminum in there with copper 

sarkeizen

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« Reply #1572 on: October 29, 2013, 07:51:03 PM »
by
So far no textbook cites.  Your promise, multiple times over was to cite a textbook, in fact your whole thesis was "the textbooks say/predict you can make a battery which will run and ipod like device forever".  Yet nothing from a textbook has been cited.  As demonstrated earlier it's pretty doubtful that textbooks say any such thing.  Without a textbook cite, you don't have an argument to refute.  Which I suppose helps you keep your self-esteem since there is no argument to destroy as long as you keep hiding it. So I guess I can understand that. :D

Keep on trolling, EOA don't let thinking people lure you out into the open.  Keep on hiding.

profitis

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« Reply #1573 on: October 30, 2013, 11:10:33 PM »
@sarkeizen  play the ball where it lies..2 entropy states:

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« Reply #1574 on: October 31, 2013, 03:49:41 AM »
play
The problem is..so far no textbook cites.  Your promise, multiple times over was to cite a textbook, in fact your whole thesis was "the textbooks say/predict you can make a battery which will run and ipod like device forever".  Yet nothing from a textbook has been cited.  As demonstrated earlier it's pretty doubtful that textbooks say any such thing.  Without a textbook cite, you don't have an argument to refute.  Which I suppose helps you keep your self-esteem since there is no argument to destroy as long as you keep hiding it. So I guess I can understand that. :D

Keep on trolling, EOA don't let thinking people lure you out into the open.  Keep on hiding.