With Quenco at the brink of launch that experiment which will only lead to a mountain of skepticism and disbelieve and likely fail any peer review process big time is kind of redundant. Why show a microscopic effect when you have the means to go big, very big and dissolve any doubt.

You are wrong about me, if you are indeed snidely referring to my _questions_ as snide comments.

There is nothing in this world I would like better than to see you succeed with real Quencos that perform as you claim. I could only benefit, because after the world-wide revolution it would cause, I will be one of the people with the skills and knowledge to continue to succeed.

If you win, Phil, everyone benefits (the survivors anyway), even me. Your paranoia about people wanting you to fail is just another symptom of your delusional system and doesn't reflect reality. Is there anyone here who genuinely wants Phil to Phail? Iph so, I mean IF SO.... please speak up so he'll know you are real.

If you lose, however..... I mean if you fail to meet your Nov 30 deadline or your Quencos don't work.... not much will change. Not even you.

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However science is science and I see no harm in a university doing an independent experiment when the components are so cheap, in fact it was the issue I had with the raving skeptics and like, that they are so quick to put everything down and totally incapable of doing a $10 experiment at any level of sophistication. The offer by Steven was noted to be late in all this but nonetheless I am not going to act to stifle any experimentation.
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Agreed, Philip, and thank you.  Let me add that I stand willing to do an "independent experiment" at any time.   I do not wish to pressure you especially with all you have on your plate in the next few weeks.

We have email communication; just let me know when/if you wish to do the independent verification tests at a major university.
--Steven

Dear TEOTWAWKI,
 

 an electric wave of a total maximum activity of ten million horse power will be possible with a plant of but 100 horse power, by the use of a magnifying transmitter .
"When the great truth, accidentally revealed and experimentally confirmed, is fully recognized, that this planet, with all its appalling immensity, is to electric currents virtually no more than a small metal ball and that by virtue of this fact many possibilities, each baffling imagination and of incalculable consequence, are rendered absolutely sure of accomplishment; when the first plant is inaugurated and it is shown that a telegraphic message, almost as secret and non-interferable as a thought, can be transmitted to any terrestrial distance, the sound of the human voice, with all its intonations and inflections faithfully and instantly reproduced at any other point of the globe, the energy of a waterfall made available for supplying light, heat or motive power, anywhere...on sea, or land, or high in the air...humanity will be like an ant heap stirred up with a stick. See the excitement coming!"
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Change has been coming for quite some time now!
 
Batteries not included.........
 
Chet

Yeah, Phil ... and you are wrong. I'd much rather be me, than you.

You can pick up posts in another forum and post them here, but you cannot refute any of my points. The best you can do is to insult me, as you have done here.

Shouldn't you be working? Tick tock, tick tock. What will you say to me when November 30 comes and you cannot demonstrate a cellphone that operates from a Quenco... or even a single LED operating from a Quenco? Will you apologise to me? Of course you won't.

But if you DO produce what you claim, I'll say "I'm sorry Phil, please forgive me" and I'll be genuinely sorry too, because it will be TEOTWAWKI for sure.

From an impartial perspective, the answers to your "questions" had been addressed previously and therefore the loaded, rhetorical nature of them do, in fact, make them little more than ill-thought-out, "snide" comments.  Including the "questions" in this quoted post.

I think Phil could do with taking more of a football manager's perspective with communication, since it is not necessary nor expected for one to respond to every drunken rambling coming from a crowd.

Here are some more rhetorical questions for you.

Has PJH ever missed a self-imposed deadline or other projected date?
Have any free energy inventors who succeeded, ever been suppressed by Big Oil, the Banksters, the Military, the Official Secrets Act?
Would the Quenco have any military applications at all? How much does a gallon of jet fuel, delivered to a forward-deployed Apache gunship, cost?
Would a nation that possessed the secret of Quencos have a military or geopolitical advantage at all?
Would there be any motivation for such a nation to maintain their monopoly on Quencos? Would they be motivated to exert export controls, like they do on highspeed cameras, certain computer gear, trigatrons, etc? Secretize the patent(s)? Expropriate everything to do with the product and ship it off to someplace like Area 51?
Does China have advanced chip fabrication facilities, skilled workers, rare-earth mines? How about Israel, or North Korea?

OK, go ahead and continue the insults. (Maybe you could show me just where "I started it". )
But perhaps one or two of you might think about the answers to some of these questions...

Here are some more rhetorical questions for you.

Has PJH ever missed a self-imposed deadline or other projected date?
Have any free energy inventors who succeeded, ever been suppressed by Big Oil, the Banksters, the Military, the Official Secrets Act?
Would the Quenco have any military applications at all? How much does a gallon of jet fuel, delivered to a forward-deployed Apache gunship, cost?
Would a nation that possessed the secret of Quencos have a military or geopolitical advantage at all?
Would there be any motivation for such a nation to maintain their monopoly on Quencos? Would they be motivated to exert export controls, like they do on highspeed cameras, certain computer gear, trigatrons, etc? Secretize the patent(s)? Expropriate everything to do with the product and ship it off to someplace like Area 51?
Does China have advanced chip fabrication facilities, skilled workers, rare-earth mines? How about Israel, or North Korea?

OK, go ahead and continue the insults. (Maybe you could show me just where "I started it". )
But perhaps one or two of you might think about the answers to some of these questions...

LOL - not just one Red Herring but a whole handful.  And you were the one telling me not to pull the MIB card...   
 I think Lumen is seeing the future for TinselKoala
ROTFLOL

@mrsean2k:
The first rhetorical question was to remind people that PHJ has made extravagant claims in the past, imposed deadlines and schedules that he has failed to meet. The intention was to try to dampen the unbridled enthusiasm and to predict... yes, predict... that he will once again not be able to meet his projected date. If I am wrong about this, we will know shortly, in good time to head for the hills, I hope.

A couple more of the questions address some of the usual suspects. If there ever has been any suppression of free energy inventors, AND IF Phil has even a remote chance of being right.... why isn't he being suppressed? Since he clearly isn't being suppressed, the point is that either he does not have what he claims and the Powers of Suppression know it.... or he does have what he claims and there is no conspiracy to suppress Free Energy inventors and probably never has been. Either conclusion is perfectly acceptable to me. Are there alternatives?

And the rest of the questions also set up a situation for contemplation. If, for example, Adam Trombley can have his liquid-metal contact system for homopolar generators sequestered by the Federal government because of national security reasons.... why should we expect the USA to act otherwise in the case of Quenco.... IF IT IS REAL? The immediate and necessary applications for Quenco are all military, and it doesn't really take much imagination to tell what they are. Probably five or ten pounds of the gear a modern soldier has hanging about himself consists of various batteries and power supplies for his advanced combat suite. Eliminate that load and replace it with grenades or ammo or more battlefield sensors....  His forward observation drones are limited in range and endurance because of their batteries. His radios and other telecoms, his computer... ditto.  A gallon of jet fuel for a forward-deployed gunship might cost several hundred dollars or even more, to get to where it is needed, and every turbine genset between here and there is competing for and raising the price of that fuel.....
The country with an army that possesses Quenco will have a real military advantage... and will seek to keep that advantage out of the hands of its geopolitical foes.
Yet we are asked to believe that Quenco will be powering cellphones and hearing aids.... when in reality, if it works, it will be powering missiles, sensor suites, surveillance drones, autonomous surface robots and other scary things. Any military that got wind of such a system would be absolutely crazy to let it out of its hands and would be committing suicide if it let it fall into the hands of its enemies.
You cannot even legally export a highspeed video camera from the USA without a lot of paperwork. Special alloy aluminum tubes... .forget about it. Trigatrons.... nope. But Quencos..... sure.

So the net result of my rhetorical questions is hopefully to question the credibility of Quenco as it has been presented. I am perfectly happy to entertain reasons why such a device would NOT be of extreme interest to militaries, and would be a "force multiplier" in any military actions..... or why the USA, a paranoid government if there ever was one, would let such a device, or its inventor, begin selling it around the world, made in USA or contracted to big chipmakers in China. Do you not think, for example, that the Chinese would be extremely interested in such a device and would covet it strongly? Are the North Korean spies in Silicon Valley even now plotting to break into Phil's lab, steal his prototype and notes, and kidnap him for brainwashing?
Since they are not... perhaps they are not interested, and why would that be?

The test that is being discussed is, like I said, a little late, and could much more easily be done on the spot in Palo Alto, than in Utah or elsewhere. But it's moot, isn't it? Why even discuss such a test when the finished product, working to produce usable power from ambient temperature with no lower-temperature sink necessary..... is going to be available in ten or eleven days? Won't the functioning of those devices be proof enough? I don't think you could even set up and perform that test with the necessary rigor in ten days, even if you did work thru Thanksgiving. So why is the test even being proposed? Is it possible that Quenco will need some kind of experimental validation using a pentode and a hot oven, _after_ this first production run is completed and released? Why?

I wasn't going to participate in this thread any more until after Nov 30...  but you asked... so I answered. Now let the insults begin.