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trim12

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #285 on: October 21, 2012, 02:40:28 AM »
@broli

Thanks for the drawings.

Philip Hardcastle

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #286 on: October 21, 2012, 10:26:13 AM »
@broli,


Thanks for the image, I have posted one in the theory section of quentron.com


if you want credit let me know and I will add a note under the image.


Phil

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« Reply #287 on: October 21, 2012, 02:31:16 PM »
@Hollander, I do not mind a challenge to anything I say but you need to crawl back under the rock you just came out of.


The person that said almost 100 years ago that the thermionic current at the surface of a room temperature metal is 1 million amperes was never accused of misplacing a negative sign to an exponent. If you want to know that famous scientists name go and educate yourself.


For those that want solid science to back up the numbers Google Esaki diodes and you will see entries like this


"Esaki diode characteristics with maximum reverse current of 1750 kA/cm2 at 0.50 V"




Note the article states 1750kA/cm2, that is 1.75 million amperes per cm2.

The Esaki diode is a quenco without the mesh.

I will not respond to any other post from this Hollander jerk, he is here just to be nasty.


It is a pity that Nobel Laureate O.W. Richardson (the same of Richardson equation of thermionic emission) passed away long time ago. You should talk to him. Or, at least, educate  yourself on thermionic emission. I was talking about Thermionic emission. What you say about Esaki current has nothing to do whit thermionic emission. Even myself is able to generate density current like those cited by you. I let a current of 1 mA pass across a nanosurface of 10^(-9) cm^2 and voilà. Get a nanoresistor of 500 ohm, put on it an *external* bias of 0.5V and get a current of 1 mA. If this current passes across a nanosurface of 10^(-9) cm^2 then I eventually have a current of 1 million Ampere/cm^2. But this has nothing to do with THERMIONIC EMISSION. Go back to college and educate yourself.


broli

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #288 on: October 21, 2012, 03:15:51 PM »
"Go back to college and educate yourself. "

troll
   
1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

You insult your skeptic laden brethren hollander, have you no shame, what would your wife and children think of this. Schaam jezelf jongen!

e2matrix

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #289 on: October 21, 2012, 08:02:13 PM »
Yep, it's a given that when things start getting really interesting and a concept is getting ready to go mainstream the trolls show up.   That's when 'Ignore mode' becomes important.  Anything else becomes a waste of energy - no pun intended.  ;)

BTW nice work on the drawings broli! 

Elisha

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #290 on: October 22, 2012, 12:00:17 AM »
Companions,

Yes, I'm a Venezuelan male.

Ok, I miss this, for local shipping the reduction will be 2X to 3X. But for air shipping the reduction will be 10X, a Quenco powered plane will save near to 13.000 $ per fly of 1600 miles (3400 galons x 3.8$), This is a great saving, without consider that any electric car or plane is much lighter, less prone to failure, and easier to maintain because it is simpler (this is also a big saving). For local shipping the reduction will be 2X to 3X. Also USA is not the whole world, in the rest of the world the shipping cost is more higher for local transportation.

@MileHigh
Yes, we allready discuss the problem of get heat to quenco, but dont worry, there is a lot of heat in the air for keep a big truck at 120 km/h.

@trim12
If you decide to make synthetic gasoline at low cost with Quenco to keep your car with internal combustion engine, you still have maintenance costs which are not few, oil changes, radiator, pumps, compressors, belts, go to fill in gas stations, etc.    So many problems, best you put an electric kit with Quenco, save weight and problems. They are $ 10,000 per Quenco 50KVA, + $ 4.000 electric motor , + $ 4.000 labor ~= $ 20,000 total, and do not pay more in gasoline, or maintenance, just the brakes.

@Phil
Excellent news ! keep the hard work.

Elisha

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« Reply #291 on: October 22, 2012, 12:26:01 AM »
@broli
Great drawing, excellent !

@hollaste

The problem of our society, and the source of our crisis is egoism, we just think about ourselves and do not take into account at all to others.

If you want to contribute to this forum, you are welcome, but in a constructive dialogue, respecting other points of view.

We know that the problem of the board, is not have a summary of all the points we made, so we understand that you unknow certain discussions and have doubt, but this group has been through your doubts and made discussions and calculations. Even some like myself have more than three years following the work of Philip Hardcastle.

Philip is an inventor that without seeking any reward,  very kindly shared their ideas, designs and even part of his life.  At no time has asked for money, and has proven to be very serious in its approach and its engineering is very solid.  He has spent time answering our questions and comments.

Neither Philip nor any of us are perfect, and we can have errors, but only in an atmosphere of cordiality and mutual respect we can interact.

We thank you and all the new ones that keep the atmosphere of cordiality and respect that we all deserve. And if you have doubts, with humility, we will gladly answer them.

MileHigh

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #292 on: October 22, 2012, 03:04:58 AM »
Elisha:

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@MileHigh
Yes, we allready discuss the problem of get heat to quenco, but dont worry, there is a lot of heat in the air for keep a big truck at 120 km/h.

It sounds highly unlikely to me.  Have you done the research and the calculations?  If not, why don't you try doing them?  It would be a very useful exercise because a mistake people often make is that they take things for granted.

I will just make some preliminary comments for you.  I will guess that an all-electric 18-wheeler truck at 120 km/h needs about 25 kilowatts of continuous electrical power to maintain that speed and run the lights and power other things, etc.   Going up a hill it might require 75 kilowatts but let's not worry about that for starters.

So, what is the heat capacity of air at a typical humidity of say 40%.   If you say you will cool the air by 15 degrees Celcius to extract the heat from the air, what airflow do you need to sustain in cubic meters per second to extract 25 kilowatts of heat?

Imagine the truck has an air inlet of 2 meters x 2 meters, i.e.; 4 square meters.  How fast in meters per second does air have to flow into the 4-square-meter air inlet to extract 25 kilowatts of heat assuming that the air exits 15 degrees Celcius cooler?

My gut feel right now is telling me that it won't work, but I could be wrong.  If anybody is interested in doing the Internet searches and gathering up all of the data and crunching the numbers then more power to you.

MileHigh
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 06:04:36 AM by MileHigh »

hollander

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« Reply #293 on: October 22, 2012, 10:42:24 AM »
Dear all,

I am usually a polite person and I have only expressed my honest criticism on some well known facts (on which, by the way, I have a very long professional experience). What do you think about Hardcastle reply?

"Hollander, I do not mind a challenge to anything I say but you need to crawl back under the rock you just came out of.
... If you want to know that famous scientists name go and educate yourself.
...
I will not respond to any other post from this Hollander jerk, he is here just to be nasty."

Do you think this is a polite reply? My post was a technical one. His post has been an humoral and unfriendly one.
 
Issue closed.

TheCell

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #294 on: October 22, 2012, 12:11:43 PM »
A practical example would be a benefit for all believers.
http://www.brighthub.com/environment/renewable-energy/articles/82398.aspx



Quote from the article:
It will be important to note that the ammeter used in the circuit should
be able to indicate both the positive and the negative current polarity
of the diodes under test.


But if I look at the I(U) diagram , I never see current negative, there is a negative slope ok!
Now must the 'read between the lines mode be switched on':
...When the temprature is high enough a negative current will occur
   and heat will be converted to electricity ?!
...And then it makes sense when he states:
Also, the whole operation needs to be performed at an ambient temperature
that’s below 8 degrees Celsius ambient temperature.
(Sorting the T-diodes out that show an oscillation at 94 MHz)


Which leaves the question: is there a minimum ambient temprature required
for operation in heat to electricity mode.
Mr. Hardcastle : is this setup mentioned in the link valid and will show
the function principle of your inverntion?

Qwert

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #295 on: October 22, 2012, 03:37:10 PM »
"Go back to college and educate yourself. "

troll
   
1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

You insult your skeptic laden brethren hollander, have you no shame, what would your wife and children think of this. Schaam jezelf jongen!

With this "troll" description, practically all forums are forums of trolls: any disagreement falls under the "troll" meaning. This definition comes from this site: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

and is only one of its kind. All other definitions are more complex and thus their meaning is definitely different from the above one. Even the suggestion to reeducate should not be considered as an insult if the opponent thinks an example is improper.

trim12

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #296 on: October 22, 2012, 05:24:45 PM »
@ElishaThink of the millions of cars there are and all the jobs that are involved with them in a fragile world economy the rapid introduction of Quenco powered cars might cause even more chaos in my opinion

Cars powered by electricity need electric motors which have there on environmental problems, I personally, although Phil thinks I am being silly prefer Quenco powered compressed air engines in the wheels of vehicles or even steam. Think about it Quenco can both heat and condense water.
Philip is at the cutting edge of technology so the failure rate of his early chips will most probably exceed 90% but as long as he has a few perfect ones to test the Quenco era the world so  needs will be born. :D   

e2matrix

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #297 on: October 22, 2012, 06:21:29 PM »
Dear all,

I am usually a polite person and I have only expressed my honest criticism on some well known facts (on which, by the way, I have a very long professional experience). What do you think about Hardcastle reply?

"Hollander, I do not mind a challenge to anything I say but you need to crawl back under the rock you just came out of.
... If you want to know that famous scientists name go and educate yourself.
...
I will not respond to any other post from this Hollander jerk, he is here just to be nasty."

Do you think this is a polite reply? My post was a technical one. His post has been an humoral and unfriendly one.
 
Issue closed.

Issue closed?  LOL - You are not a moderator here but nice try.  And yes I'm disregarding my own suggestion to ignore you only because I think you believe you are not trolling.  Your first post here to Philip came off as rude, condescending , disrespectful and contentious.  It's the way a bad teacher might address an 8th grader in math class.  I suspect you have not grasped the nuances of communication on forums.   Maybe it's a cross cultural and or language issue.   Or maybe it's just a case of blurting out your feelings on a subject where you think you have superior knowledge and where being anonymous without concern for the consequences of your post leads you to believe there will be none.   Maybe you missed that Philip has put many years of work into this, he is a real physicist and so what are the odds he missed a minus sign in an equation.  That's just downright insulting.  Knowing the overall situation I don't see how anyone could have taken your post any other way than insulting and contentious.   

e2matrix

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« Reply #298 on: October 22, 2012, 06:44:20 PM »
Apologies Elisha,  I was not sure and was just best guessing gender based based on similar names in North America.  Thanks for your contributions here.   I'm still leaning towards your original estimates of operating costs of a vehicle for transportation.   Other than initial cost - and you have initial cost on a vehicle whether it is gas, electric or quenco style free electric - the largest cost of getting down the road is fuel except if it's quenco based.  I imagine a scenario in transportation where large companies would be grabbing up quenco based trucks as fast as they could to beat out the competition in pricing their goods.  This would result in a shift from owner-operator based trucking to more company owned trucks with companies paying the usual lower wages to company drivers.  A fuel based truck could easily be 6 times more expensive to run per mile than a fuel-less based truck everything else being equal. 

Qwert

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« Reply #299 on: October 22, 2012, 08:19:18 PM »
Dear all,



@hollander, I'm definitely with you. If anybody here is rude, it's the host and his clappers. I base this opinion after reading all your posts in this thread.