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e2matrix

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #195 on: August 11, 2012, 04:18:25 AM »
first samples today.  Would love to be in Australia right now to help with things.
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Yeah really - me too.  Can you elaborate on what you heard about first samples being available? 

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« Reply #196 on: August 11, 2012, 11:39:20 AM »
That's just the timeline according to http://quentron.com/launch.html

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« Reply #197 on: August 17, 2012, 10:38:39 PM »
He Phillip -

Any update on how things are going?  Devices behaving as expected?  How was the wafer yield?  Lots of people eager to know how things are going and if there is anything we can help with.

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« Reply #198 on: August 18, 2012, 01:51:43 AM »
Phil has plastered his web site with the following message:


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There will be no release of information or data relating to the laboratory and production work until after the filing of full patents. No questions will be responded to on such matters.
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It looks to me that this means
- He will not answer further questions until the patent is filed.
- He has nothing positive to report yet.

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« Reply #199 on: August 18, 2012, 09:57:26 PM »
Sorry to see this is not finding another way to get into production.  A little clip out of Ash's Panacea-bocaf.org website article "How they went Wrong" : 
"People are still being removed

Here is a very good reason for this individual to be removed. In June of 2002, U.S. Patent 6,404,089 for the "Electrodynamic Field Generator" was issued to Mark Tomion, president of Archer Enterprises. To the best of our knowledge, this Patent is the first in the world for a truly all-electric power plant.

Mark Tomion

AESI is confident that our prototype 24kW air-cooled StarDrive Generator† will during certified testing exhibit a net input COP approaching 200 [or, a 200:1 ratio of net output to net input], and we can now show where the corresponding "net output COP" (the ratio of net output to gross input) is reasonably projected at ~24kW / 0.216kW or 111:1. Such a successful demonstration may soon open up incredible new opportunities for both private and commercial concerns in applications which could never be cost-effectively (or profitably) developed to date.

AESI's 24kW EDF Generator

Perhaps the greatest advantage the EDF Generator may have over almost any other over-unity device now known or proposed is that it is fundamentally linearly-scalable — including the liquid sodium coolant system! We have designed large "Thermal Unit" plants that will produce electrical power continuously at 60 to 720 MW output levels, without requiring normal 'fuel' of any kind, and their permanent magnet banks will never need to be remagnetized! The only operator input energy these unparalleled free energy devices will require during their entire in-service lifetime is that initially needed to bring the rotor up to speed (and the thermoelectric elements up to operating temperature)

The Electrodynamic Field (EDF) Generator is a patented high-voltage DC motor-generator, the most remarkable feature of which is that it produces in operation a high-energy electrodynamic field [or quasi-coherent DC corona or arc discharge] which completely encloses the machine's conductive housing.

AESI's 24kW EDF Generator

MARK R. TOMION FERGUSON CORNERS- Mark R. Tomion, 51, died unexpectedly Friday, June 19, 2009 at his home. A memorial service will be held Tuesday June 23 at 7 p.m. at the Kenneth J. Perkins Funeral Home in Gorham. Burial will be in Shuman Cemetery.Memorial contributions may be made to the Yates County ARC, 235 North Ave, Penn Yan, NY 14527. Reference. Here is the last remaining mirror of his old site. His web site is now gone and so have his research papers.

One more for the record. Free-Energy Battery Inventor Killed at Airport? Official statement cites "natural causes" but others familiar with the disruptive potential of the inventor's technology to the existing power structure consider it a probable assassination.

"… On Nov. 11 2007, inventor of a revolutionary, affordable, clean energy technology, M. DeGeus was found slumped in his car, totally unresponsive, in the long-term parking lot of the Charlotte Douglass International Airport in North Carolina. …" He was apparently on his way to Europe where he was to secure major funding for the development and commercialization of his technology, which could make oil obsolete. …""DeGeus was the inventor of a thin wafer-like material/device that somehow specially aligned the atoms or electron currents ongoing in that material, so that the wafer produced a constant amperage at a small voltage – continuous real power, or in other words a strange kind of "self-powering battery". "

Just a couple of the hundreds of known cases....     I truly hope this kind of ending can be avoided but it's a sticky path the follow in getting a patent without these sort of troubles.  It would be naive to think the energy cartels and big oil will not try to stop this by any means possible and I have no doubt they control much of our governments. 

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« Reply #200 on: August 19, 2012, 01:07:54 AM »

I think it's a bit too early to pull conspiracy theories out of less illuminated places.
Phil is still alive(AFAIK) and it certainly wouldn't be in his interest to be associated with conspiracy theories etc. Let's just wait and see. Soon, etc.   
 

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #201 on: August 19, 2012, 04:00:01 PM »
Hi All,


Those that are following quenco can rest assured that there is no conspiracy or problems, please just allow me to take heed of advice that the proper thing to protect the rights of many is to ensure that intellectual property I hold is transformed into an airtight Patent so that it cannot be usurped by the big corporations. The cloak of secrecy that has become apparent is not an indication of anything bad, but it is necessary that I keep some secrets until after the full patent filing.


Please be assured that my intentions are to maximise the benefit for the people, not to make mega bucks for myself.


I know some will feel this is some sort of scam or false claim of a miracle breakthrough that is outside conventional science, it is not, and may I say that some who have been given confidential disclosure would have no problem telling you if this was a scam (without breaking any legal restriction).


So just be patient and please understand that I will not reveal anything of the work on quenco until 29 September, even to friends.


Phil

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #202 on: August 19, 2012, 04:02:41 PM »
I will not post here again until after 29 sept

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« Reply #203 on: August 19, 2012, 04:41:21 PM »
Just a reminder, which I'm sure you still know all too well Philip but it doesn't hurt to repeat the obvious.

This technology has the potential to completely alter our social, legal, monetary, political and economical institutions as we know them. To what extent exactly, is even beyond me but it's good to keep that in mind. Because to rely heavily on the current broken (and mostly corrupt) business practices will only give you a near term solution. If and when this takes over like a storm and crude oil pretty much becomes a useless smelly black liquid we will see a major shift in pretty much every field I mentioned above.

Patents are (read: were) good in a sensible manner, but patent and copyright law have lost their senses and true purpose a long time ago. What's left is a means for big corporation to pretty much patent everything they see fit, (see for example Apple's infamous "rectangular object with rounded corners" patent or the ridiculous patents on nature itself, human genes) so they can unleash their lawyer army from hell on whoever they see fit. Patents used to protect the little guy, which is far from today's case. In today's situation patents are useless unless you're a patent troll or have the means to enforce them id est you have your own patent army from hell. I would even go as far as saying that patents today truly impede innovation. However I respect your choice for patenting the technology because frankly at this point in time, any solution is a good solution so it doesn't matter what you choose as long as the technology gets released in some way or form. And we can always discuss a more optimal solution when the world gets over the initial shock this will cause :p.

Anyway thanks for the status update, even the occasional "everything is going as planned" is enough until the big party in a month or so :D .

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« Reply #204 on: August 19, 2012, 06:25:57 PM »
Broli,I must recuse the projection !
Quenco,like other generators,will be part of the total recycling concept for the future,energy included !
Crude oil and coal parts you find -in pharmaceutics -in plastics -in colours and many other industrial and final consumer products.

Today are just existing 99,9% recycling methods which deliver cheap new-cleaned-entry-proces-material,very clean -like earth explored !

Less aggressivity would help all and also give the today involved branches/sectors to make a strategical change cause this is an universal evolution step: earth-moon- mars - ..... !
Industry employment is time-parallel 99,9% the consumer work-and income place !


Sincerely
                CdL

e2matrix

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« Reply #205 on: August 19, 2012, 06:48:56 PM »
Thanks for the update Philip.  I may have over reacted a bit in posting the worst case scenarios.  I do believe we have reason to fear our government though and the big controlling interests which manipulate it.  I also largely agree with everything broli said.  Hanging out in this alternative energy scene for over 20 years though I've seen so many promising things that have disappeared or never made it to production that I get a bit concerned when I see something like what you have (highly promising in so many ways) that it will end up going the way of so many others (maybe some or most did not really work in ways that would be real world usable).   I know of one inventor who is very aware of these problems and who managed to get a patent on an energy device by carefully wording things so the potential of the device would be obscured from the patent people.  Hopefully some careful wording will be incorporated in your patent(s) so it won't be on their radar. 

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« Reply #206 on: August 19, 2012, 07:35:14 PM »
I forget if I posted reference to this before but for easier reading I just OCR'd this into text  (had to edit the less than perfect OCR so may still be some minor errors).  This is the infamous USPTO-SAWS memo.  I'll attach the original PDF also which shows the official page stamp.   :

"UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE

DATE: March 27, 2006
TO: TC 2800 managers
FROM: Janice A. Falcone, Group Director
Sharon Gibson, Group Director
Robert Oberleitner, Group Director
Richard K. Seidel, Group Director
Arthur Grimley, Acting Group Director

Commissioner for Patents
United States Patent and Trademark Ofce
P.O. Box 1450
Alexandria, VA 22313-1450

SUBJECT: Reminder on TC 2800 Guidelines for Sensitive Application Warning System
- - (SAWS) Program Reminder
This is to remind our personnel that Technology Center 2800 has in place a SAWS program
based on the following guidelines. All TC 2800 managers must remind their examiners of this
program and its implementation.
T Attached is the updated TC 2800 SAWS program. Please review and disseminate.
UNITED STATES PATENT AND TRADEMARK OFFICE
Commissioner for Patents
United States Patent and Trademark Ofce
P0 BOX 1450
Alexandria, VA 22313-1450
www.uspto.gov
SPECIAL APPLICATION WARNING SYSTEM
(SAWS)
Technology Center 2800
 March 27, 2006
I. PROGRAM OVERVIEW:
The SAWS program was designed to assist in processing of patent applications identified as
claiming subject matter of special interest that, if issued, would potentially generate high
publicity or would potentially have a strong impact in the patent community. It is also an
information gathering system to apprise various segments ofthe USPTO ofthese patent
applications.
This program applies to all pending applications and reexamination proceedings (reexams).
' As a program to assist in processing of patent applications and patents undergoing
reexamination, it is intended to ensure that the examination standards and guidelines are applied
properly to such applications and reexams that include sensitive or noteworthy subject matter.
As an information gathering system, the SAWS program should identify applications and
reexams that, if issued as a patent or reexamination certificate, would be controversial or
. noteworthy. A '
The initial identication of SAWS applications/reexams is performed by the examiners (may
also include managers and classiers). Therefore, it is important that examiners stay informed
about this program and the identication criteria. '
Independent of the SAWS program, examiners are encouraged to bring to their
supervisor's attention any application/reexam that raises issues that they are uncertain
how to handle. Supervisors are responsible for determining which applications/reexams
proceed through the SAWS program versus those applications/reexams having other issues ~
which are normally addressed by existing examination procedures and established
examination/re-examination guidelines. '
11. OPERATIONAL OVERVIEW:
TC 2800 handles the SAWS program based upon a tiered process-of application/reexams
identication. This process relies on Examiners and SPEs to identify these applications/reexams, _
and a SAWS screening committee to verify their status. The SAWS screening committee
comprises the home SPE, at least one of the following managers in the TC 2800 Quality Center:
Management Guidelines for Sensitive Application Warning System (SAWS) Program
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Cassandra Spyrou, Clayton LaBalle and Hien H. Phan, and another TC 2800 management
ofcial.
Applications/Reexams which have been identied and veried as containing SAWS material are
reported the TC Directors, and as needed, a SAWS memorandum is forwarded to the Deputy
Commissioner for Patent Operations and the Deputy Commissioner for Patent Examination
Policy prior to allowance or forwarded to the Board of Patent Appeals and Interferences (BPAI)
when an appeal is forwarded to the jurisdiction of the BPAI.

A. Technology Center 2800 Practice:
1. Examiners are the rst line of review since they are the most knowledgeable about the
pending claims and application/reexamination issues. Examiners will report potential SAWS
applications/reexams to their SPE. Upon approval of the SPE, the case will be brought by the
SPE to Clayton LaBalle, Cassandra Spyrou or Hien H. Phan for entering the SAWS
l application/reexam number into the TC 28 00 tracking system.
2. Flagging an identied SAWS application/reexam in PALM to ensure that the
application/reexam cannot be allowed or an NIRC issued until the ag has been removed.
3. TC 2800 has established a screening mechanism to remove non—SAWS applications/reexams
from their SAWS designation. This screening mechanism permits a second review and will
result in a recommendation as to whether the application/reexam contains SAWS subject A
matter. The SAWS screening committee will perform the second screening review.
4. Applications/reexams that have been through the TC screening mechanism and have been
identied as SAWS applications/reexams will be brought to the attention of the TC
Directors. The TC Director will bring them to the attention of the Deputy Commissioner for
Patent Operations and the Deputy Commissioner. for Patent Examination Policy.
5. For uniformity and process improvements, a SPRE, QAS, or a SAWS TC-screening
committee must be utilized. A SPRE, QAS, or a ‘SAWS TC-screening committee will be
tasked to periodically review the SAWS processing guidelines and criteria to continually
update and revise the program as needed.
6. Placing a PALM Flag on subject classes, which encompass sensitive subject matter until a
review ofthese cases is performed upon allowance (such as business methods, class 705).
7. A reminder and a11 updated SAWS criteria list will be distributed, at least semi-annually, to
examiners to stress the importance of SAWS application identification. All newly hired
examiners should be made aware of this TC 2800 SAWS program
Management Guidelines for Sensitive Application Warning System (SAWS) Program
B. Subject matter of special interest in TC 2800:
1.  Perpetual motion machines; classes 310 and 290
2.  Anti-gravity devices
3.  Room temperature superconductivity; class 310
4.  Free energy — Tachyons, etc.
5.  Gain-Assisted Superluminal Light Propagation (faster than the speed of light); class 702, 359
6.  Other matters that violate the general laws of physics; classes 73, 290.
7.  Applications containing claims to subject matter which, if issued, would generate
unfavorable publicity for the USPTO, class 84, 702.
8.  Reexamination proceedings involving patents in litigation and:
The court decision/verdict is subject to review by the Supreme Court
The court decision includes high monetary awards .
The technology and companies involved would likely generate high publicity

C. Corps-wide Potential SAWS"subject Matter ~
1.  Applications with a very old effective fling date (pre-Gatt -- before June 8, 1995) with
broad claim scope.
2.  Application with pioneering scope.
3.  Applications dealing with inventions that, if issued, would potentially generate extensive
publicity.
4.  Applications with objectionable or derogatory subject matter,
5.  Applications with inventions that would harm people or the environment, compromise
national security or public safety.
6.  Directors Ordered reexams except those ordered due to failure to considered timely led
prior art or due to prior art citation under 37 CPR §1.50 1."

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« Reply #207 on: August 19, 2012, 09:39:21 PM »
e2:

Wow!  That is some interesting reading.  I was not aware of this program.  Thanks for posting it.

Bill

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« Reply #208 on: August 19, 2012, 10:01:31 PM »
Referring to paragraph C item 3, near the bottom of the page. What would be the problem with patenting an item that would generate extensive publicity? So anyone trying to patent a new method of advertising , is a threat to National Security?

e2matrix

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« Reply #209 on: August 20, 2012, 03:50:00 AM »
Hi Bill,  That document has been around a little while but it probably doesn't get exposed as often as it should so I thought this was a fair time to refresh people on it. 

neptune,  I'm guessing that anything that would generate large publicity would do so because it has the potential to make large change in our world and thus likely a big change in economics.  So I believe the government would not want anything getting out of their control quickly - thus the potential censorship or more to prevent any sudden huge financial shifts.  If quenco is as big as I think and it's presented in a way that makes it's potential obvious it could possibly make some big waves.  However there have been so many potential new energy technologies announced in the last 20 years that I personally don't think people will take notice that quickly.  I don't know - it really depends on a lot of factors including how the scientific community reacts.  But if you put a shoe box size power source in front of people and it powers a hundred 100 watt light bulbs (10 kilowatts) endlessly or something dramatic along those lines then it could mean big investors, rapid development and huge sell off of investment in things like oil.  Big big changes all over the charts.