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Offline e2matrix

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Re: quentron.com
« Reply #90 on: May 28, 2012, 06:56:28 PM »
conradelektro,   I really don't know if you woke up on the wrong side of the bed or just don't have a clue what quentron and Philip are all about.  If you have read this thread you would have to see your statements are completely foolish.  There is absolutely nothing that Philip has written that warrants an attack like you have made. 
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Offline neptune

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« Reply #91 on: May 29, 2012, 01:20:54 PM »
Let us consider a "coke Can" sized device with a 1 cm square Quentron tile, an aluminium heat sink and a small fan. The fan would probably be a small computer fan of about two inches diameter. Does anyone know what the output of such a fan might be in terms of cubic feet or cubic metres per minute? Let us take a wild guess, and say 10 cubic feet per minute . Let us assume that the air temperature is 15 degrees Celsius. Let the output power drawn from the device be 1 Kilowatt. Perhaps someone can calculate from the above figures, what the temperature of the out going air would be.
       How would the situation change if the ambient air temperature was 5 degrees, or zero degrees? Would the heatsink ice up, or the air exit grill?
         Could we use this device as a combined refrigerator and power generator? I have been mentally comparing this device to a peltier module. A Peltier device will only act as a generator if it has a temperature difference across it. So as far as heat is concerned, it has a source and a sink. The Quentron device appears to be unique in that it uses the environment as a source, and does not have or need a sink.
      Lots of questions. Does anyone care to comment?
ADDED LATER.The actual air output from a fan of this size will probably be  between 2 and 10 Cubic feet/minute
« Last Edit: May 29, 2012, 02:52:43 PM by neptune »
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Offline lumen

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« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2012, 05:41:52 PM »
It would be interesting to know some approximated delta temperatures and power output of a coke can sized device if someone would like to calculate the math.

Fan Specification:
Speed reference: 1800 +/- 10% RPM
Bearing Type: Sleeve Bearing
Noise Reference: 23 db
Reference air flow: 60CFM
Rated Voltage: 12V
Interface Type: 3 Pins
Length: 9.8inches
Size: 2 x 2 x 0.6in(L x W x H)
Color: black

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Offline neptune

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« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2012, 08:04:53 PM »
@Hartiberlin. Have you been in contact with Phillip yet about obtaining a sample of Quentron? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. We are all depending on you. Please do not let us down .
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« Reply #94 on: May 29, 2012, 10:50:08 PM »
Hello

Very interesting thing, such a quentron power foil. I would be very happy if this foil does what is promised.

The coke can ventilator calculation:

Massflow [kg/s]             60CFM = 1.36 m3/min       Density 1.2 kg/m3    -->  0.0272 kg/s
Specific Heat [J/kg K]     1000 J/kg K
Delta Temp [K]               From 15°C down to 5°C   --> 10 K 

Power  Qp [W] = Massflow [kg/s] x Specific Heat [J/kg K] x Delta Temp [K] = 272 W

That is a very high electical power output. Obviously much more than the power input of a ventilator. As well a nice air condition in summertime.

If I could use this foil, I will be happy to donate the inventor. I wish you all the best.

Best regards, cubalibre
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Offline Elisha

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« Reply #95 on: May 29, 2012, 11:05:37 PM »
I would like to see a billionaire whose money was actually helping mankind, and not stealing millions of people, or speculating on wallstreet .


I want to see PHILLIP HARDCASTLE billionaire as a the model for the world, a real super hero, tirelessly fighting for an idea, that fills a need for all humans in the world.
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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #96 on: May 30, 2012, 08:29:04 AM »
Conrad had a valid point, but if people (honest) were to keep everything secret this site would be very quiet. I chose to share what was happening and to engage, as far as I could, with people here that have a like mind.


Thanks to those for words of support, somewhat embarrassed by Elisha's praise that I can never live up to.


Many people have asked for some quenco and in time I will do my best to support the members here, but I cannot do much right now, I have posted on the quentron website an offer for a supply of chips, at very high prices, for evaluation by designers and as a means to raise capital for automated production.


I ask those wanting a 1mm2 quenco tile to be patient and I will see about distributing via Stefan some really cheap chips (or free if I can).


I will also be posting next a FAQ page to respond to some of the questions you have asked.


Phil
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Offline neptune

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« Reply #97 on: May 30, 2012, 12:51:55 PM »
@Cubalibre. Many thanks for that calculation. As I understand it you are saying that the air temperature would fall from 15 degrees, down to 5 degrees. And the output power would be about 270 watts. That would be absolutely perfect for the electric bike market, and also for the 4 wheel disabled scooters. Remember these bikes and scooters already exist in their millions, and it is just a case of replacing the battery. I look forward to the first round the world electric bike trip without recharging
@Phillip . Do your best as regards getting samples into the hands of the right people. I wish for you everything that you wish for yourself and your family.
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Offline vrstud

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« Reply #98 on: May 30, 2012, 05:41:31 PM »
Very interesting technology.  Do you have any papers written on its performance? 

This would be a significant discovery if it performs as described.  The applications would be endless.  Once pattented you can license the technology to every industry that produces heat.

Is this a semiconductor device?  If so, what process are you following?  You could try and take advantage of older foundaries with older technologies in order to reduce cost.  Do you have a test facility to quality?  I used to work with a semiconductor test house that would be able to help.

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Offline lancaIV

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« Reply #99 on: May 30, 2012, 06:17:08 PM »
Quote from: cubalibre on May 29, 2012, 10:50:08 PM
Hello

Very interesting thing, such a quentron power foil. I would be very happy if this foil does what is promised.

The coke can ventilator calculation:

Massflow [kg/s]             60CFM = 1.36 m3/min       Density 1.2 kg/m3    -->  0.0272 kg/s
Specific Heat [J/kg K]     1000 J/kg K
Delta Temp [K]               From 15°C down to 5°C   --> 10 K 

Power  Qp [W] = Massflow [kg/s] x Specific Heat [J/kg K] x Delta Temp [K] = 272 W

That is a very high electical power output. Obviously much more than the power input of a ventilator. As well a nice air condition in summertime.

If I could use this foil, I will be happy to donate the inventor. I wish you all the best.

Best regards, cubalibre

Let me correct some numbers :
60 CF= 60 X 0,0283168466 cbm  ~ 1,7 cbm for the massflow ,now divided with 1,36 cbm = qoutient 1,25
1,25 x 272 W = 340 W Power output :  if Delta Temp 10K !

Sincerely
                CdL

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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #100 on: June 03, 2012, 01:36:47 PM »
I have posted new stuff at


www.quentron.com


reflecting my view that quenco must be put into the hands of all peoples as soon as possible, and as cheap as possible


One repeated technical matter that poeple have asked/ misunderstood is that to design a quenco power source (using a 1cm2 Quenco) you must realize that the quenco can operate down to at least -100C, so the thermal flux is from ambient to say -100c, roughly speaking use a delta T of 100k in all calcs, this means that if a thermal path from ambient is via copper on each side of the quenco is 1cm then you have at least 1.6kW of output capability and a momentary power capability many time higher (good if you want to get a motor turning).


We have had a good week with technical stuff and we are back on track for a launch but we will not be able to do all the vid stuff by 11th June, so I will post the actual launch as soon as the video is done.
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Offline neptune

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« Reply #101 on: June 03, 2012, 02:32:04 PM »
Good on you Phillip. I am sure we are all looking forward to the release of your video. In my opinion, this is even bigger than cold fusion.You deserve health, wealth and happiness. If this makes it to market, you will forever be known as the man who saved the world.
 On your website you describe the experiment with two cubes of water. I assume that you have already done this experiment in your lab. Could you, at this stage, give us a rough idea of the size of these cubes, and how long it takes for the water to freeze/boil please?
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« Reply #102 on: June 04, 2012, 09:11:23 PM »
Philip says he is a Yorkshire man. But i get the impression that he is currently working and living in Australia. I have no idea of the situation there. However I can guarantee that here in the UK, or in the USA, anyone applying for a patent for this device would face two problems immediately. First they would be warned never to write of it, or speak of it, or have anything to do with it ever again.
      Secondly, the technology would be seized for National Security. That means it would be reserved for the military, MI5 , FBI, CIA, and so on. The first of many applications would be UAVs , or unmanned aircraft that would stay aloft indefinitely, and probe any country by using stealth technology. Any Patent Examiner who failed to initiate this process, would be guilty of failing in his Patriotic Duty, by throwing away the chance to give his country this advantage. And this is just one application that is painfully obvious to the layman. I have no doubt that the devious minds of the Powers That Be will find at least 100 ways to use this to take away peoples freedom, and preserve the Status Quo.
     A sad comment on humanity, but I challenge anyone to fault my logic.
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« Reply #103 on: June 04, 2012, 10:39:11 PM »
Quote from: neptune on June 04, 2012, 09:11:23 PM
Philip says he is a Yorkshire man. But i get the impression that he is currently working and living in Australia. I have no idea of the situation there. However I can guarantee that here in the UK, or in the USA, anyone applying for a patent for this device would face two problems immediately. First they would be warned never to write of it, or speak of it, or have anything to do with it ever again.
      Secondly, the technology would be seized for National Security. That means it would be reserved for the military, MI5 , FBI, CIA, and so on. The first of many applications would be UAVs , or unmanned aircraft that would stay aloft indefinitely, and probe any country by using stealth technology. Any Patent Examiner who failed to initiate this process, would be guilty of failing in his Patriotic Duty, by throwing away the chance to give his country this advantage. And this is just one application that is painfully obvious to the layman. I have no doubt that the devious minds of the Powers That Be will find at least 100 ways to use this to take away peoples freedom, and preserve the Status Quo.
     A sad comment on humanity, but I challenge anyone to fault my logic.

Your reasoning is fine but you didn't go quite far enough with your logic.

"Since none of these things, like being seized for National Security or agents of the Mossad, have happened to the quentron or its inventor, regardless of patent status .... therefore........ " and then you can state a conclusion.
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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #104 on: June 05, 2012, 06:16:35 AM »

Hi,

Will it work? will it fail, drum roll.................... that is for the launch and the vid to tell, I will post it as is on the day, will it freeze in seconds or take an hour? Will I look like a fool? (or should I say a bigger fool than I actually look). Will I eat my hat?


As to being threatened by MIB or other evils, well as TK said, I am here, and so far the biggest problem is that of being ignored when you know you have what everyone has been dreaming of. There are so many people out there that try to trade on the goodness of people that want to find a solution, the noise they make, and the distrust they engender, make it almost impossible to announce a breakthrough technology.


All I can say is that I have taken precautions to release documents if I went missing or dropped dead under mysterious circumstances. There are now many people who know exactly how to make a quenco and they have an NDA with me so if I vanish they are not bound to keep any secret.


I personally cannot conceive why any individual or individual oil company would want to suppress when they can make more money being part of the solution. As to governments, well it just does not add up to me that it is possible or that they would want to suppress energy breakthroughs.


Lots and lots of people are asking me for info via the q contact page and I will reply to everyone in time.


One thing I want to make clear, I am not looking for donations, and I am not looking for investors.


I am interested in talking to people that want to help or people that want to set up production, and my request for an altruistic billionaire is not an offer to sell out but a stab in the dark that someone out there would want to help without consideration of monetary return, after all billionaires have children and grandchildren that will need a viable planet to live on.


Phil
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