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« Reply #2325 on: May 14, 2014, 12:56:58 PM »
As I have followed the story he's had a bunch of different ideas all directed at cheating the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.  He built some sort of experiment a few years ago using a vacuum tube.  When his web site was up he posted and then withdrew descriptions of his experiment from time to time.

Basically, he wired up a vacuum tube and stuck the tube in an oven hot enough to almost melt the glass.  He brought the wires out of the oven to a micro ammeter movement at room temperature.  The meter registered current that went up as he raised the temperature in the oven.   He said his experiment proved a 2nd Law violation.   I don't see where he can rationally draw such an audacious conclusion.  Mr. Hardcastle posted not so long ago that he has other scientists who believe him.  I haven't seen any such persons publish such an opinion.  Somehow this vacuum tube thing was his proof of concept for the thin film layer project that flopped.

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« Reply #2326 on: May 14, 2014, 06:07:03 PM »
Its not a question of if the kelvin statement is flawed.there's plenty evidence of that as I have shown earlier in the thread.its rather a question of if mr hardcastle was ever able to successfully achieve a selfsustained thermionic system,big or small .that is what we understand was the stated goal.a kelvin breach,when it happens,is not going to care about width parameters @mark E.

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« Reply #2327 on: May 14, 2014, 10:21:23 PM »
As I have followed the story he's had a bunch of different ideas all directed at cheating the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.  He built some sort of experiment a few years ago using a vacuum tube.  When his web site was up he posted and then withdrew descriptions of his experiment from time to time.
Yes, the vacuum tube "experiment" is ridiculous.  There was some other device he claimed to have built which he claimed to have observed a 2LOT violation.  This was pre-quenco.  After several quenco failures he claimed he was making a larger version of his initial device.  Then he claimed he was going to sell them.  Then when nobody was interested.  His website shut down.
Its not a question of if the kelvin statement is flawed.there's plenty evidence of that as I have shown earlier in the thread.
This might give Phillip a run for his money for "Most inaccurate statement in this thread".

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« Reply #2328 on: May 15, 2014, 03:00:33 AM »

The link below leads to more information and resources about PJH's previous inventions - written up by a cold fusion enthusiast.

https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg71402.html

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« Reply #2329 on: May 15, 2014, 07:37:10 AM »
Its not a question of if the kelvin statement is flawed.there's plenty evidence of that as I have shown earlier in the thread.its rather a question of if mr hardcastle was ever able to successfully achieve a selfsustained thermionic system,big or small .that is what we understand was the stated goal.a kelvin breach,when it happens,is not going to care about width parameters @mark E.
I am sorry but I don't see anywhere that Mr. Hardcastle has shown any hint of a 2nd Law violation.

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« Reply #2330 on: May 15, 2014, 07:39:07 AM »
Yes, the vacuum tube "experiment" is ridiculous.  There was some other device he claimed to have built which he claimed to have observed a 2LOT violation.  This was pre-quenco.  After several quenco failures he claimed he was making a larger version of his initial device.  Then he claimed he was going to sell them.  Then when nobody was interested.  His website shut down.
The only device I ever saw him talk about that he said he had tested was the vacuum tube device.

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« Reply #2331 on: May 15, 2014, 07:43:59 AM »
The link below leads to more information and resources about PJH's previous inventions - written up by a cold fusion enthusiast.

https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg71402.html
That sounds close to what I know about the history.  I didn't know about him asking PESN to pull down articles.

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« Reply #2332 on: May 15, 2014, 07:52:05 AM »
No @sarkeizen.phillip showed a few pictures,and some words.I showed a textbook statement and a video.quite a difference wouldn't you say?

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« Reply #2333 on: May 15, 2014, 08:03:30 AM »
Sadly I have to agree with you there @mark E. We must bear in mind that massive trial-and-error experiments would have to be done for thinfilm technology to be anywhere near successful plus huge amount of cash,no easy feat.phillips angle to keep everyone hanging with excitement,but with no practical demos,is quite intrigueing.

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« Reply #2334 on: May 15, 2014, 12:31:01 PM »
Sadly I have to agree with you there @mark E. We must bear in mind that massive trial-and-error experiments would have to be done for thinfilm technology to be anywhere near successful plus huge amount of cash,no easy feat.phillips angle to keep everyone hanging with excitement,but with no practical demos,is quite intrigueing.
No amount of experimentation can make a fundamentally flawed concept work.  Mr. Hardcastle has not shown any basis that makes sense as to why his ideas should work.  He also has not demonstrated that any of his ideas work in contravention to conventional theory.  If you find that behavior intriguing, then enjoy.

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« Reply #2335 on: May 15, 2014, 02:50:04 PM »
No @markE mr hardcastle has shown sufficient basis to warrent at least some investigation because there is no fundamental reason why a system should be limited to one entropy state.I give him a thumbsup for that but he has shown no proof(to you and me) and unfortunately that's all that matters(for you and me).I disagree with what you say about experimentation,this thing must be looked into in the same way that i had looked into the fundamentaly related karpen device with total success.

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« Reply #2336 on: May 15, 2014, 03:23:49 PM »
I had dozens of email exchanges with Philip two years ago. His engineering skills were limited.
The promised power density of 10kW/cm^3 was high by orders of magnitude (supplying this heat energy and removing the electrical energy is highly problematic).
I also introduced him to 2 wealthy, powerful people, who were treated very rudely by Philip (he did apologise to me).
Have not had any more contact with him.
It is my opinion that LoT2 can and has been broken; to make a commercial product may not be possible.

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« Reply #2337 on: May 15, 2014, 05:28:34 PM »
No @markE mr hardcastle has shown sufficient basis to warrent at least some investigation because there is no fundamental reason why a system should be limited to one entropy state.I give him a thumbsup for that but he has shown no proof(to you and me) and unfortunately that's all that matters(for you and me).I disagree with what you say about experimentation,this thing must be looked into in the same way that i had looked into the fundamentaly related karpen device with total success.
The last time that we had a discussion many posts went back and forth where you insisted there was evidence for claims of yours yet provided none.  If you ever find that you have evidence that supports Mr. Hardcastle's ideas I am sure that he and many others would love to see it.  Mr. Hardcastle's ideas fly in the face of established theory and he hasn't provided any evidence that I know of that supports his ideas over established theory.  His long string of unrealized claims strongly suggests that the problem is with Mr. Hardcastle and not existing theory.

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« Reply #2338 on: May 15, 2014, 09:22:32 PM »
Memoryman you say that you believe that 2lot has been busted....so why do you say that a commercial product may not be possible?

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« Reply #2339 on: May 15, 2014, 09:37:43 PM »
Well @markE I did provide a textbook-compatible statement that you could not physicaly or theoretically disprove,AND you`re a scientist.that says alot.I had wanted to join forces with mr hardcastle a few years back but he was on his own mission.I don't hold that against him. there is a certain respect between all demonologists.how do you know for sure that none of his claims were realised?it may be in his interests to fade from the limelight with you and me thinking he,s got zip.we just don't know what's going on behind the scenes.all we know is that on this thread,no proof was given.

 

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