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Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #1845 on: January 16, 2014, 05:22:55 PM »
the wikipedia oxygen concentration cell
Sorry.  No idea what this is.  Please define without using the word "wikipedia" or referencing wikipeda, or drawing pictures. :D
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how much more of a bridge from establishment to overunity could a rational individual want?
There's only one thing being discussed.  Your statement: "Textbooks necessitate the existence and ability to create a battery which will power an ipod like device forever".  This requires at least one cite from a textbook and a formal argument.   Anything less, and you lose. :D
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 Karpen,s battery is related
Which hardly anybody has examined.  So again, you can not make this statement with any useful degree of accuracy. :D
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to wikipedia,s battery
Sorry, no idea what this is. :D
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i challenge you to
Yawn.  Another day another attempt by you to worm your way out of your original statement.   As I said before, I'm not interested in other discussions until you can either say that you can't support your original point or you support it.  Not to mention that what you propose is so colossally stupid it's hard to believe anyone would think it would settle anything.  I'm surprised that even you can't see why.

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« Reply #1845 on: January 16, 2014, 05:22:55 PM »

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« Reply #1846 on: January 16, 2014, 06:19:09 PM »
A)google it to find out what it is and no i dont want to define it without using the word wikipedia. B)textbooks necessitate batteries of the wikipedia-type,which can do just that. C)we have the blueprint.we have replicated it.same problem, we cant kill it.or even semi-kill it.D)check A.E) check B and please explain why its stupid to bring a scientist on to support kelvin statement in the wikipedia battery.. @sarkeizen :D

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« Reply #1847 on: January 16, 2014, 10:31:02 PM »
A)google it to find out what it is and no i dont want to define it without using the word wikipedia.
You don't want to support your argument.  Doesn't that mean you lose?
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B)textbooks necessitate batteries of the wikipedia-type,which can do just that.
So far this dream of yours has not be supported by you.  Again, a formal argument would do it...and again you said you would...and again you lied. Yay! :D
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C)we have the blueprint.we have replicated it.
Nope.  You can say neither with any useful degree of accuracy.  You can not replicate something that has not be sufficiently examined nor can you have a blueprint of it.  You can *claim* to have replicated it or you can have something which *purports* to be a blueprint of a device (or I suppose you could have a document which was the *proposed* plan for the object).
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lease explain why its stupid to bring a scientist on to support kelvin statement in the wikipedia battery..
So you are saying you don't understand why your request to me is somewhere between pretty stupid and extremely stupid?

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« Reply #1847 on: January 16, 2014, 10:31:02 PM »
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Offline profitis

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« Reply #1848 on: January 17, 2014, 12:14:06 AM »
A)nope.B)you dont think textbooks support wikipedia? C)yup we can.3-D is best.D)no im saying your answer is somewhere between mad and criminaly insane.we demand a scientist,NOW @sarkeizen..before i explode over just this issue.

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« Reply #1849 on: January 17, 2014, 04:44:17 PM »
A)nope
Sure does, my argument was that you can't support your position...and you're refusing to support it.  You lose.
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B)you dont think textbooks support wikipedia?
Thank you for admitting you are contributing nothing to the discussion.  The question at hand is if *YOU* can/will support your statement.  It appears that have now been cornered so badly that you are reduced to arguing the possibility that someone or something else might potentially be able to argue better than you.  Which is pretty much admitting that you have nothing to contribute. 
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C)yup we can
Sadly, no.
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D)no im saying your answer is somewhere between mad and criminaly insane
A post ago you asked me to explain.  I simply wanted to you admit that your request is because you don't know why your request is pretty stupid.  Again do you know why, what you are asking is stupid or not?  Say "no" and I'll explain why you're stupid.   Take your time.
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.we demand a scientist,NOW
*ROFL*
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@sarkeizen..before i explode over just this issue.
Hopefully you are simply a troll.  If not  then the world would be generally better without you.  So please don't let me stand in your way of you exploding.

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« Reply #1849 on: January 17, 2014, 04:44:17 PM »
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Offline profitis

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« Reply #1850 on: January 17, 2014, 07:57:49 PM »
A)nope.i win. B)nope. textbooks support wikipedia which supports eternal batteries. C)nope D)nope. WE THE AUDIENCE DEMAND THAT YOU PROVIDE A SCIENTIST TO UPHOLD KELVIN STATEMENT IN THE WIKIPEDIA BATTERY.you want to lose respect in the audience?nows your chance to save yourself.E)im dead serious. F)WE THE AUDIENCE DEMAND THAT YOU PROVIDE A SCIENTIST TO UPHOLD KELVIN STATEMENT IN THE WIKIPEDIA BATTERY.. @sarkeizen.or you rapidly lose respect and make people start to realy pay attention here at this thread.(you must remember that one of my diagrammed wikipedia-type batteries is high-powered enough to power an ipod eternaly in a size compatible with ipods.people want to know wtf is going on now,they want answers)

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« Reply #1851 on: January 17, 2014, 10:13:47 PM »
A)nope.i win.
Hard to believe.  You are refusing to support your point but don't let me stop you from being stupid.
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B)nope. textbooks support wikipedia which supports eternal batteries.
If so, you have not provided and now appear to refuse to provide any evidence to support this imaginary assertion of yours.  :D :D :D
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C)nope
Sadly, logic says you're wrong.  Again if you want to be stupid, be my quest.  :D
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D)nope. WE THE AUDIENCE DEMAND THAT YOU PROVIDE A SCIENTIST TO UPHOLD KELVIN STATEMENT IN THE WIKIPEDIA BATTERY.
So are you saying: "No I, profits don't understand how stupid I'm being?"  Again, all you have to do is agree with that statement and I'll explain.  However if you just want to be an obstructionist asshole.  Well I guess that's your choice. :D

Or should I assume that your constant avoidance of the question means you actually do understand how stupid you are being? :D
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people want to know wtf is going on now,they want answers
Something you are very much committed not to provide.  You have lied several times, you won't provide a formal argument, you have provided only one unverified cite and you won't even define your terms.   Clearly you are the opposite of someone who wants to provide answers. :D

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« Reply #1851 on: January 17, 2014, 10:13:47 PM »
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Offline profitis

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« Reply #1852 on: January 18, 2014, 01:47:28 AM »
A)my point IS the wikipedia battery and i am supporting it by asking you to un-support it which you obviously cannot do.B) if it,s imaginery why can you not describe kelvins role in it,yet i can?this is your way to restore the public,s confidence in you? C)sadly this is limited to your own logic. D)dont insult the public @sarkeizen.they just want you to make provision to uphold an important statement in physics for certain wikipedia phenomena.E)yeah but you forgot to mention my dirty habit of winning arguments by getting encyclopedias involved,by DEMANDING THAT YOU UPHOLD KELVIN,S LAW IN THAT WIKIPEDIA BATTERY @sarkeizen.cmon,crush me and my statement,the one about ipods.should be a breeze :-)       

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« Reply #1853 on: January 18, 2014, 02:50:49 AM »
I drop in to check this thread sometimes, any progress other than a lot of rhetoric musings?
Kind Regards
Mark

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« Reply #1853 on: January 18, 2014, 02:50:49 AM »
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« Reply #1854 on: January 18, 2014, 03:12:39 AM »
I drop in to check this thread sometimes, any progress other than a lot of rhetoric musings?
Kind Regards
Mark


PJH is very angry because nobody wants to buy a 'Sebby' for $5000. He has deleted his website again. 

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« Reply #1855 on: January 18, 2014, 03:36:57 AM »

PJH is very angry because nobody wants to buy a 'Sebby' for $5000. He has deleted his website again.
I think he has deleted the pages on his web site about half a dozen times.  Other than post it on his web page for a couple of weeks, I don't know what else he did to advertise his offer.  He said he would ship free energy devices capable of producing 10W.  If he hasn't built a working one yet and needs money to do that, then maybe he should try an Indiegogo campaign.

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« Reply #1855 on: January 18, 2014, 03:36:57 AM »
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« Reply #1856 on: January 18, 2014, 04:07:22 AM »
I think he has deleted the pages on his web site about half a dozen times.  Other than post it on his web page for a couple of weeks, I don't know what else he did to advertise his offer.  He said he would ship free energy devices capable of producing 10W.  If he hasn't built a working one yet and needs money to do that, then maybe he should try an Indiegogo campaign.


But the latest deletion looks a bit like altruistic self-punishment. The "Closed due to lack of public interest" message can only be targeted at a very small audience, including himself, due to lack of public interest. Indiegogo is probably a good idea, but PJHs marketing expertise could be a problem. Maybe he should consult a skeptical person to make sure his proposal sounds serious and rational.

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« Reply #1857 on: January 18, 2014, 06:28:05 AM »
Orbut, I'm sure that there are people out there at least in some colleges who would give his ideas a fair shake.  There is a professor in San Diego who writes a lot about 2nd Law issues.  He would be a likely person to look at PJH's ideas.

Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #1858 on: January 18, 2014, 09:55:19 PM »
A)my point IS the wikipedia battery
Well your old point was "(most if not all) Textbooks necessitate the existence of and the ability to create a device which can power a ipod-like device continuously and eternally".  Which is at least somewhat falsifiable although you have spent enormous amounts of time trying to avoid that.  Not to mention lying.

...and your new point is something you won't define, even though I've asked several times.

You're really trying hard not to look at your own ideas skeptically.

By the by I think I predicted that Philip's current ploy would be a flop.

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« Reply #1859 on: January 19, 2014, 10:09:03 PM »
my old point proves my new point which is that you cannot tell us or even provide someone to tell us or even quote someone to tell us how that wikipedia battery abides by kelvin statement @sarkeizen.theres no need for me to look at my own ideas skeptically anymore because now im looking at YOUR DEVICE skeptically bro.this thread will now hang on this note,the audience baffled,even scientists baffled,by your shocking inability to simply show us how kelvin statement fits in with the encyclopedia device.whats going on @sarkeizen?your going to start a revolution unintentionaly brother.better do something fast...(-:

 

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