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Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #1830 on: January 14, 2014, 02:15:29 PM »
my answer to sarkeizen: the MORON battery titled oxygen concentration cell and all related batteries do not require kelvin statement to function.they are perpetual motion devices of the 2nd kind.
Does this mean they will run an ipod eternally?  Please stop trying to worm out of things.  Either agree or agree that you can not support your original statement.  In which case you could have just admitted that I had you a few months back.

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« Reply #1831 on: January 14, 2014, 04:31:06 PM »
my answer to sarkeizen: affirmative

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« Reply #1832 on: January 14, 2014, 06:42:42 PM »
my answer to sarkeizen: affirmative
So why did you spend all that time being stupid about this?

If the original criteria was correct.  Why didn't you just agree with it instead of being an obstructionist asshole?

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« Reply #1832 on: January 14, 2014, 06:42:42 PM »
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« Reply #1833 on: January 14, 2014, 07:26:54 PM »
my answer to sarkeizen: i dont know why.please forgive me.

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« Reply #1834 on: January 14, 2014, 09:10:55 PM »
my answer to sarkeizen: i dont know why.please forgive me.
Now we are back to the beginning troll-boy.  Provide a formal-logical argument to show that textbooks necessitate the existence of and the ability to create a battery can power an ipod-like device eternally.  Your argument must begin and follow from the cite you gave from the Applied Chemistry textbook and must end with your conclusion "a battery can power an ipod-like device eternally".

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« Reply #1835 on: January 15, 2014, 12:42:04 AM »
yay! Sarkeizen has forgiven me!under section nernst equation there in that book you,l see it written that the tendency for an electrochemical half-reaction to occur depends on concentration of the species involved thus we can build a cell with 2 same half-reactions at different concentrations of 1 or more species thus for 2 of same half reactions: 1/2 O2 + 2H+ + 2e- = H2O  and differing O2 concentrations on the electrodes at equal pressure we get E=0.059/n log c1 O2(atm a)/c2 O2(atm a) at 25degreesC and since c1 = c2 after transfer of gas we must have pressure change c1(atm a)=c2(atm b) at equilibrium and since kelvin statement cannot apply to a situation where we end up with a gas pressure differential spontaneously without paying for it with a heat differential to begin with we are forced to conclude that kelvin statement need not apply here @sarkeizen  no kelvin statement equals perpetual motion.perpetualy

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« Reply #1836 on: January 15, 2014, 01:54:00 AM »
yay! Sarkeizen has forgiven me!under section nernst equation there in that book you,l see it written that the tendency for an electrochemical half-reaction to occur depends on concentration of the species involved thus we can build a cell with 2 same half-reactions at different concentrations of 1 or more species thus for 2 of same half reactions: 1/2 O2 + 2H+ + 2e- = H2O  and differing O2 concentrations on the electrodes at equal pressure we get E=0.059/n log c1 O2(atm a)/c2 O2(atm a) at 25degreesC and since c1 = c2 after transfer of gas we must have pressure change c1(atm a)=c2(atm b) at equilibrium and since kelvin statement cannot apply to a situation where we end up with a gas pressure differential spontaneously without paying for it with a heat differential to begin with we are forced to conclude that kelvin statement need not apply here @sarkeizen  no kelvin statement equals perpetual motion.perpetualy
Line breaks please. Not even going to bother reading if you don't take this seriously troll-boy.

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« Reply #1837 on: January 15, 2014, 03:28:41 AM »
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« Reply #1838 on: January 15, 2014, 04:06:51 AM »
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Seems like an attempt to hide his identity.

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« Reply #1839 on: January 15, 2014, 05:41:57 AM »
if i used that much space then what are you complaining about @marsing

nothing, i need 9950bux back + 100% delay Fee

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« Reply #1840 on: January 15, 2014, 02:39:22 PM »
maybe a diagram of the wikipedia-type gaseous cell equilibration will be easier for our audience and you to understand @sarkeizen.the cell before equilibrium stands with equal gas pressure and different gas activity across electrodes.after equilibration theres a gas pressure differential and equal gas activity across electrodes.the gas tap can then be opened to repeat the cycle.we do without the tap for practical purposes:

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« Reply #1841 on: January 15, 2014, 03:32:05 PM »
maybe a diagram
Not a formal argument.  Is this really so hard?  If your argument is so strong and obvious.  Then it should be simple to write out a series of steps (each separated by a line break) each one forcing the next.  However you never can seem to do that.  Even though you know this is the definition of formal-argument because it's been discussed many times.
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of the wikipedia-type
Sorry, don't know what that is.

Anyway if you can't come up with a formal argument by the time I receive the textbook and find out that you lied about your cite.  Then I'm not going to bother anymore.
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« Reply #1842 on: January 15, 2014, 08:21:29 PM »
hey thats not fair @sarkeizen.everytime im nice and give you something from the textbooks you set the goalposts higher.its not fair man i dont think you really forgave me a minute ago.im gona tell on you man coz you not playin by rules of overunity.com or the rules of honour.

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« Reply #1843 on: January 16, 2014, 01:00:58 AM »
hey thats not fair @sarkeizen.everytime im nice
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To date you have given exactly one thing from a textbook, a cite.  A cite which you made me wait months for and then you gloated and said that you were glad that you obstructed the conversation in this way.  So yeah, "nice" isn't really the word. "Asshole" is more accurate.

My request for you to provide a formal argument isn't raising the bar. It is both what you were asked for and you agreed to.  If you don't want to support your point.  It's no concern of mine, you will just lose the argument.
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« Reply #1844 on: January 16, 2014, 03:28:20 PM »
@sarkeizen..all concentration cells related to and including the wikipedia oxygen concentration cell spontaneously compress gases at expense of ambient heat.how much more of a bridge from establishment to overunity could a rational individual want? Karpen,s battery is related to wikipedia,s battery @sarkeizen.no fundamental difference.i challenge you to bring on a scientist to tell us how to kill the wikipedia establishment cell and settle this once and for all.

 

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