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« Reply #1695 on: December 27, 2013, 07:59:30 AM »
well since these karpen systems work then hardcastle has a chance for success,if he can manage to construct the thermionics appropriately @sarkeizen. Btw check out http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_cell go down to subtitle 'oxygen concentration cell' and substitute a corrosion-resistant material e.g. platinum as your metal surface there and you get a karpen device.also check out www.corrosion-doctors.org/Corrosion-Factors-Cells/corrosion-cells-aeration.htm and substitute corrosion-resistant platinum for all the metals you see there and you get a karpen device.when i say karpen device i mean an ambient pressure gas electrode concentration cell.

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« Reply #1696 on: December 27, 2013, 08:25:17 AM »
well since these karpen systems work
"work"?! You mean forever?  How can you *observe* something working forever in less time than...forever?

So technically you have zero idea that they "work" in that sense.  Now if there was a textbook that explained the theory...but there isn't or it's on a shelf too high for you to reach or you just enjoy being an obstructionist asshole more...or some other less credible excuse.
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then hardcastle has a chance for success,if he can manage to construct the thermionics appropriately
Why not say: "He will be able to reconstruct the philosophers stone if he can catch enough unicorn dust?" it's pretty much equivalent.

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platinum as your metal surface there and you get a karpen device.also check out www.corrosion-doctors.org/Corrosion-Factors-Cells/corrosion-cells-aeration.htm and substitute corrosion-resistant platinum for all the metals you see there and you get a karpen device.
Sadly you are making an assertion that you are incapable of making with authority.  The Karpen cell has never been examined in any useful degree. Calling anything a Karpen cell is premature as is saying that it runs forever.

If you have some reason to believe that the textbooks say you can construct something that can *run* forever.  Like you said before but haven't provided any reason for saying that...

You should just provide a textbook cite and your argument from that but if you could do that well you might actually be doing something with your life. :-)

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« Reply #1697 on: December 27, 2013, 09:08:39 AM »
yeah i mean forever man.and ever and ever and ever.like i said,forever becomes irrelevant as long as your ipod doesnt need to be plugged in or shoved into the sunshine for its life,s(the ipod,s) duration.yes hardcastle,and everyone else who are investigating duo-entropy systems have a massive chance of success.if one duo-entropy system works then others are very likely possible.if you had bothered to put your reading glasses on and read my prior message properly you wouldve seen that when i say karpen device i mean concentration cell.constructive?yes @sarkeizen,all these cells ive discussed above are constructable.all of them.

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« Reply #1698 on: December 27, 2013, 09:20:48 AM »
 a textbook cite? Lol,i just asked you to integrate platinum INTO the wikipedia text,nevermind take wikipedia text and bring it here for citation purposes.

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« Reply #1699 on: December 27, 2013, 02:42:36 PM »
Hi All,


A belated seasons greetings, hope you are all enjoying good times with your family and friends.


I hope 2014 brings joy to us all and a better deal for the poor.


My belief in delivering the technology that will change forever power generation remains 100%.


I achieved many things in 2013, repeated replication of the sebby effect, manufacture of a 1.2nm operational film that performed as a Tunnel diode. All that remains is to do a batch C Quenco with a lower barrier height, in reality a small step in a long journey to date.


I have received generous support from many professionals at a number of Universities around the World, and financial support from a few corporations to help me stretch my own funds a lot further. Fabrication of research nano films is an expensive thing to do and we have spent our money wisely to get where we did, above all we learnt what to do to make a working Quenco batch C (or at least we think we do, but as always the proof is in the pudding).


I will be posting an update in late January re Sebby and Quenco.


Best Wishes
Phil H

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« Reply #1700 on: December 27, 2013, 03:36:27 PM »
hey phil.greetings from south africa mate.glad to see your still in the game :-)..im enjoying my time with sarkshmeizen here,he,s making me look good.im gona get him shmangled now on this wikipedia article watch me.. 

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« Reply #1701 on: December 27, 2013, 06:22:25 PM »
yeah i mean forever man.and ever and ever and ever.like i said,forever
So how did you observe it lasting forever?
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yes hardcastle,and everyone else who are investigating duo-entropy systems have a massive chance of success.
Not really.  Again it appears to violate information theory and complexity theory both of which are stronger systems than Phillips observation of the Cottingley Fairies.
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.constructive?yes @sarkeizen,all these cells ive discussed above are constructable.all of them.
Again is your thesis that this can be demonstrated strictly by reading textbooks?  That is what you said before.  If not, you should say "No you have to build it" or whatever you actually mean.  Is this really so immensely difficult for you?

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« Reply #1702 on: December 27, 2013, 10:30:48 PM »
i,l answer your enquiries in series @sarkeizen: A) i watched it totaly flatten.then i watched it totaly recharge itself.something to take note of? B)violate information and complexity theory? But arent these just theories? C)no.not strictly by reading textbooks.you can build them aswell BUT if your lazy then you CAN try integrating platinum into the wikipedia article i gave you on oxygen concentration cells.havent you done this yet? Why not? Need help?

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« Reply #1703 on: December 27, 2013, 10:48:46 PM »
A) i watched it totaly flatten.then i watched it totaly recharge itself.something to take note of?
So is that or is that NOT observing something running forever.  I'll give you a hint the right answer is capitalized.
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B)violate information and complexity theory? But arent these just theories?
*sigh* A theory in science is a model which exhibits behavior which is in agreement with known evidence.  In mathematics it's something different.  It's an area of study which is consistent with axiomatic set theory - in other words you would have to have an exception to ALL mathematics in order for this to be untrue.  Something which is unproven, in math is called a "conjecture".  Such as the taniyama-shimura conjecture.
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C)no.not strictly by reading textbooks.
But some complete and total moron who happens to have the same name as you said
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no need to observe.its written and predicted in  textbooks under section 'electrode concentration cells' .again,do you want to question the credibility of all and every textbook on electrochemistry?
So again.  Are you abandoning this thesis?  Since you are CLEARLY CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.  You. Near. Total. Idiot. Troll.


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« Reply #1704 on: December 27, 2013, 11:43:38 PM »
@sarkeizen..A) well its observing something recharging itself.cant complain ey. B)a theory in science is just a theory e.g. some scientists agree with relativity theory and others dont.a theory becomes law when it changes to official certainty,however, some official certainties are perception-based and thus undergo regular official change.question: does your math laws allow for 2 interchangable maximum entropy states @sarkeizen? Would be interesting to know. C) it is written AND predicted in the biggest textbook under section 'oxygen concentration cells' in wikipedia.you just have to substitute platinum for other metals and go from there by rules.DID YOU DO THIS YET @sarkeizen.why not?

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« Reply #1705 on: December 28, 2013, 01:34:17 AM »
@sarkeizen..A) well its observing something recharging itself
Again, please state clearly.  Did you observe something operating FOREVER?
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B)a theory in science is just a theory
However it has to be congruent with the majority of evidence.  Which is the better definition than the very stupid one you just made.  In any case, complexity theory and information theory is using the definition that mathematicians use.  There is no room for a proven theorem to be wrong - outside of ZF(C) being wrong which would make all math questionable.  Which is why information theory and complexity theory are so much stronger than Phillips fairy watching. 
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C) it is written AND predicted in the biggest textbook
You said all textbooks.  Please cite me one that I can go get out of a library....or say that this is no longer your hypothesis.  Your choice.  Let me know.  Again I'm using the useful definition of the word cite not "quote" not "pretend it's in there somewhere".

Cite.  Produce a piece of text from a respected textbook that unquestionably  makes your case and the title and page number.  That's what you said you could do.  If you can't please man up and admit this is no longer your position.

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« Reply #1706 on: December 28, 2013, 07:52:39 AM »
A)well i observed a mosquito flying round my room like forever yeah @sarkeizen.(try making your question more palatable next time). B)neither i nor you know what phillip has in front of him so its too pre-mature to determine this assumption. C) wikipaedia is a library,the most widely used library in the world in fact.it has borrowed a giant chunk of its info from all the other libraries round the world so can i use it to do that cite @sarkeizen.im begging you please :-).it,l have more impact i promise you. 

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« Reply #1707 on: December 28, 2013, 05:41:57 PM »
A)well i observed a mosquito
Did you observe the battery running forever? Please answer instead of being an obstructionist asshole (again).
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B)neither i nor you know what phillip has in front of him so its too pre-mature to determine this assumption.
That depends.  Are you also saying that Phillip doesn't know what he has? That he has no clue about how his device operates?
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so can i use it to do that cite
Nope.  You said textbooks.  Not only that but you said EVERY textbook.  This should be incredibly easy if you are correct.  However you are pretending that this is incredibly hard.

Please admit you can't properly support (provide a cite) for your original statement.  Come on, you can do it.

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« Reply #1708 on: December 28, 2013, 06:16:48 PM »
A)can you be more specific? B)im saying you have to ask phillip questions pertaining to phillip.how should i know @sarkeizen? C)aww cmon man.wikipedia is very well respected by the crowd @sarkeizen.who,s gona care what some old book from some old library says?.i want to make an impression for the young science student viewers also @sarkeizen.the library is far from my place and i,d have to hunt the books with a similar tune as that wiki article anyways so it may aswell be wiki @sarkeizen.i want wiki @sarkeizen.please? (-:

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« Reply #1709 on: December 28, 2013, 06:24:56 PM »
A)can you be more specific?
Did you observe it running for an eternal period of time.  That's what observing something "running forever" would mean.
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im saying you have to ask phillip questions pertaining to phillip.
Philip indicated that his machine is equivalent to a maxwell's daemon device.  In which case he is either WRONG and doesn't know what he's talking about or it's restricted my complexity theory and information theory.  QED.
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aww cmon man.wikipedia is very well respected by the crowd
You said "textbook". ALL textbooks.  Don't you think you need to have at least ONE textbook to argue that "all textbooks" contain something.  You don't even own a single textbook and you are making statements about ALL textbooks?

Come on, just admit you can not support your original argument and make up a new one but first you have to come clean. be honest and man up.  Say it.  You can't support your original statement.

 

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