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Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #1455 on: October 05, 2013, 08:44:39 PM »
Yawn.  Quit trolling. You said that a cell which powers something like a iPhone forever was written and predicted in all and every textbook on electrochemistry.  This should make it easy to provide a cite from a textbook :D 

Incidentally I've asked you for a cite seventeen times and you have provided none. :D :D :D :D

This is what a cite looks like: 1. Christine Stansell, American Moderns: Bohemian New York and the Creation of a New Century (New York: Henry Holt and Co., 2000), 18. - while what you produce doesn't have to be all that formal.  It does need to reference a book, and give me enough information to find it and the information presented.

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« Reply #1456 on: October 05, 2013, 09:04:04 PM »
..and goes to the bottom of the gradient where everything is now evened out,work functions and all..

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« Reply #1457 on: October 06, 2013, 01:12:21 PM »
..so down the electrical gradient and up the temperature gradient we go and then trip the switch and blam,everything  springs back to where it was at beginning of cycle at the top of the electrochemical gradient.. gas diffuses out, each electrode returns to its original seperate potential.scissorhands gradients backward, 4ward,backward,4ward meeting at a point  x on the gradients crossing line..

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« Reply #1457 on: October 06, 2013, 01:12:21 PM »
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« Reply #1458 on: October 08, 2013, 08:04:39 AM »
Karpen Pile is a standard electrolytic cell where platinum is slowly transformed into platinum sulfate and hydrogen is produced around gold electrode. The process is very slow and the piles are big, thus the reason why they are still generating a voltage drop. What to say about the dry piles that are driving the Oxford Electric Bell almost continuously since 1840? If some of you want to call them all "perpetuum mobile" are free to do so, but they actually are Volta's piles.

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« Reply #1459 on: October 08, 2013, 10:52:47 AM »
incorrect.if that was the case then all scientists are using oxygen sensors that are unreliable and prone to potentials other than the nernst potential of O2 concentrations giving false information.platinum is far too noble to conjugate with non-complexing sulfate ions and is way way below the hydrogen evolution potential of H+ ions,ie.it,l never happen.you can boil platinum in sulfuric acid solution and you,l still get no reaction,ever.and if it was true what you said then platinum would be the anode(-) of the karpenquenco,not the cathode(+), which it is. Oxford cell uses zinc,a highly reactive metal and gives nano-amps not milli-amps as karpenquenco does(both have been calculated/measured).platinum and gold are so unreactive that they occur almost exclusively in raw elemental state in natural reserves.if it was true what you said then platinum would never ever be used as the choice catalyst for sulfuric and phosphoric acid fuel cell oxygen electrodes and would not be used in the ABSOLUTE STANDARD oxygen electrode in all chemistry textbooks.ridiculous @hollander.

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« Reply #1460 on: October 08, 2013, 12:45:07 PM »

profitis said:

"platinum is far too noble to conjugate with non-complexing sulfate ions and..."

"platinum and gold are so unreactive that they occur almost exclusively in raw elemental state in natural reserves."

So, the following is fiction...

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/platinum+sulfate

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« Reply #1461 on: October 08, 2013, 01:17:34 PM »
what are you showing me @hollander. Kindly tell us how PtSO4 is manufactured and kindly explain to us why platinum is the CATHODE in the karpenquenco and not the ANODE as you are insisting it is..

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« Reply #1462 on: October 08, 2013, 02:52:59 PM »

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022072888870426


Can you be sure that nothing happens with Pt in H2SO4 in an electrolytic cell? Can you guarantee that NO atoms (even few atom/(second*cm^2)) go into solution? If you have big electrode, then you may be able to generate a measurable voltage drop (do not talk about current, as far as we know only voltage has been measured with a sensitive galvanometer).

Regarding the issue of anode and cathode, see the standard electrode potential of Au and Pt. Pt gives electrons more easily than Au. It is like the pair Copper - Zinc, respectively (made the proper proportion).
And like Zinc, it is Platinum to go into solution.

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« Reply #1463 on: October 08, 2013, 03:05:07 PM »
lets first get your basic school electrochemistry sorted out @hollander.you said platinum corrodes into solution in contact with gold,yet platinum is the CATHODE in the karpenquenco.. you are saying its an ANODE thus your argument already null and void.

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« Reply #1464 on: October 08, 2013, 03:09:24 PM »
lets first get your basic school electrochemistry sorted out @hollander.you said platinum corrodes into solution in contact with gold,yet platinum is the CATHODE in the karpenquenco.. you are saying its an ANODE thus your argument already null and void.

Do you have the Karpen Pile in your house? Please provide a link with all the details you seem to know about Karpen PIle, and please, stop calling it karpenquenco.

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« Reply #1465 on: October 08, 2013, 03:29:18 PM »
i dont need to have it in my house @hollander.the oxygen potential is not the same on gold and platinum,any scientist will tell you that.work functions affect the O2 potential case closed.

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« Reply #1466 on: October 08, 2013, 04:03:21 PM »

hopeless

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« Reply #1467 on: October 08, 2013, 04:40:13 PM »
hopeless
Don't worry "it is only Svengali talking to himself again. "

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« Reply #1468 on: October 08, 2013, 05:03:55 PM »
@ hollander @sarkeizen hey i didnt make the rules for nernst cells so dont put me on trial for upholding them :-)

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« Reply #1469 on: October 08, 2013, 05:22:46 PM »
hey i didnt make the rules for nernst cells
So far there's little reason to believe that the conclusions which you've made which are contentious with the second law are the result of following any well established rule in a manner consistent with it's assumptions.  :D About that cite...

I think that's request number eighteen.

 

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