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Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #1440 on: October 03, 2013, 09:46:09 PM »
@sarkeizen..written
But not in a textbook that I can see...please supply the cite of a well-known textbook after all you said.
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.its written and predicted in  textbooks under section 'electrode concentration cells'
Anything else is deceptive and kind of lying.

After all you said to "focus on the textbook" I can't do that if you won't tell me the textbook you are allegedly quoting from. (A quote is not a cite, as it does not give the location of the quote).

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« Reply #1441 on: October 03, 2013, 11:13:34 PM »
not so fast @sarkeizen.you owe me.you had me running around like a jumping bean the last 48hrs trying to get it to your skull that that formula is predictive of quenco-hammerstein.now i demand that you help me integrate some textbook formulas,specificly work functions into the O2 electrode potential as then we will have a formula not only predicting a hammersteinquenco but for a hammersteinquenco.in fact we may even have a constant somewhere in there.

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« Reply #1442 on: October 04, 2013, 12:57:45 AM »
not so fast @sarkeizen.you owe me.you had me running around like a jumping bean the last 48hrs
In the same way that I'm not responsible for the American Civil war.  I'm also not responsible for whatever you did in the last 48 hours because it had almost nothing to do with me.  The only thing I've asked for is a cite from a textbook.  Which is exactly what you spent the last 48 hours - or actually the whole thread doing anything but.  You have not complied with a simple I question I asked within the first few posts in this thread even in the smallest useful respect.

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Yawn. Quit trolling and just produce a proper cite.

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« Reply #1443 on: October 04, 2013, 02:44:55 AM »
@sarkeizen you can chek out wikipaedia articles on 'concentration cell','oxygen sensor',or 'nernst equation'.wikipaedia is pretty much to be trusted so.. The articles 'concentration cell' and 'oxygen sensor' both give direct discussions on the relation of O2 concentration and voltage.quit yawning and help me with these formulae,it just occured to me that i can prove a 2lot violation using them via the  T part of the nernst equasion.(stands for temperature).

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« Reply #1444 on: October 04, 2013, 04:04:53 AM »
Yawn.  Quit trolling. You said that a cell which powers something like a iPhone forever was written and predicted in all and every textbook on electrochemistry.  This should make it easy to provide a cite from a textbook :D 

Incidentally I've asked you for a cite thirteen times and you have provided none.

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« Reply #1445 on: October 04, 2013, 04:46:07 AM »
@sarkeizen wait im going in for the kill..E hammerstein = RTln/nF * CO2a/CO2b which proves beyond all doubt that the electrical potential arises across both O2 electrodes at a singular uniform temperature.we need to integrate work function differentials as they are responsible for O2 differentials.

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« Reply #1446 on: October 04, 2013, 04:49:59 AM »
@sarkeizen in other words,the oxygen potential on platinum is different than the oxygen potential on gold by exactly the work function difference between platinum and gold..

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« Reply #1447 on: October 04, 2013, 04:56:48 AM »
Yawn.  Quit trolling. You said that a cell which powers something like a iPhone forever was written and predicted in all and every textbook on electrochemistry.  This should make it easy to provide a cite from a textbook :D 

Incidentally I've asked you for a cite fourteen times and you have provided none. :D

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« Reply #1448 on: October 04, 2013, 05:00:51 AM »
@sarkeizen in other words the system has to shift oxygen gas electrochemicaly in order to even the difference in work function potentials since neither platinum nor gold can go into solution..

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« Reply #1450 on: October 04, 2013, 05:37:34 AM »
Yawn.  Quit trolling. You said that a cell which powers something like a iPhone forever was written and predicted in all and every textbook on electrochemistry.  This should make it easy to provide a cite from a textbook :D 

Incidentally I've asked you for a cite fifteen times and you have provided none. :D :D

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« Reply #1451 on: October 04, 2013, 06:42:26 PM »
no problem @sarkeizen heres a CITE from the wikipaedia article on the nernst equasion i,l organise a textbook later i promise:E=RTln/nF* a A/a B and predicted E karpenquenco cell = RTln/nF * a(Oads)1/a(Oads)2 where concentrations of adsorbed species have been substituted by the more correct activities(a) of adsorbed species.you can see that a voltage arises at uniform temperature.

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« Reply #1452 on: October 04, 2013, 06:55:50 PM »
@sarkeizen if we use two identical platinum electrodes at different depths in a glass of acid or a glass of ocean it becomes classical Eprofitis-wikipaedia =RTln/nF * CO2a/CO2b.in this case the O2 potential affects the work function of the respective electrode and since the depth difference is a constant the voltage becomes a constant.

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« Reply #1453 on: October 04, 2013, 07:49:37 PM »
Yawn.  Quit trolling. You said that a cell which powers something like a iPhone forever was written and predicted in all and every textbook on electrochemistry.  This should make it easy to provide a cite from a textbook :D 

Incidentally I've asked you for a cite sixteen times and you have provided none. :D :D :D

(In case you forgot to read my post about what a cite is.  Here's what one looks like: 1. Christine Stansell, American Moderns: Bohemian New York and the Creation of a New Century (New York: Henry Holt and Co., 2000), 18. - while what you produce doesn't have to be all that formal.  It does need to reference a book, and give me enough information to find it and the information presented.)

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« Reply #1454 on: October 05, 2013, 06:01:03 PM »
just a second @sarkeizen im on a roll now have a kofi meantime. so the system decompresses O2 gas on one electrode and compresses it on the other in order to equalize work functions so one electrode cools down and the other heats up as reaction proceeds down the gradient..

 

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