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e2matrix

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2011, 05:57:30 PM »
Maybe I can just uninstall the version I have (have to find where the installation file is to be sure if something happens) and install your version. Can you cave me the link from which you downloaded yours?
Haven't read further so not sure if you have resolved this but you might take a look at a program called Returnil.  You flip on virtual mode with it and install whatever you want, use it, then reboot and everything will be back to the way it was before you made any changes.  Great program.  Also useful if you are uncertain if a program will have a virus or make changes that would be hard to fix.  Well behaved program too and newer versions have some Anti-virus in it but older ones work fine.   

Omnibus

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2011, 06:02:56 PM »
Haven't read further so not sure if you have resolved this but you might take a look at a program called Returnil.  You flip on virtual mode with it and install whatever you want, use it, then reboot and everything will be back to the way it was before you made any changes.  Great program.  Also useful if you are uncertain if a program will have a virus or make changes that would be hard to fix.  Well behaved program too and newer versions have some Anti-virus in it but older ones work fine.

Thanks for your suggestion but I think we fixed the problems we had regarding compatibility of the programs and now are working on the subject itself. It's very important all the colleagues discussing such issues to have compatible conditions so that technical points won't stand in the way. Thanks anyway, though. Maybe the program you mentioned will be useful in other situations.

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2011, 06:05:51 PM »
@e2matrix,

Sorry about that. I just saw the Returnil program and it's a some kind of anti-virus program and not a substitute for PSpice, as I initially understood. Will try it in due time. Thanks again.

teslaalset

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2011, 06:07:06 PM »
@teslaalset,

Take a look at this graph. Damping of I and V signals is evident and is as expected due to losses (non-physical values of the current notwithstanding). One would say that precludes any hope for this device being OU, at least self-sustaining OU (unless someone who wants to hold us hostage insists he knows some secret set of parameters that sustain the signal; we won't fall in such trap, though). One lase hope for this device to be OU if it can be shown that the initial energy needed to charge the cap to 12V is less than the energy dissipated across the resistor till the signals die.

@Omnibus,
Well my first concern was that anyone could replicate this model besides me.
Now the big puzzle starts why we get these results.
I am not sure yet, I'll do some more measurement simulations.
I agree that in practice, losses need to be taken into account.
The thing I like to learn is how much losses are allowed to just maintain permanent oscillations.

e2matrix

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2011, 06:11:43 PM »
I understand.  Yes Returnil is high on my list of great programs but it's just a virtual computer setup - nothing to do with Pspice.  Sorry I didn't make that clear.  I got mine from giveawayoftheday years ago and then it did not have anit-virus but was just a computer freeze and return or virtual computer.  I think there may be a free version now. 

BTW,  I know the secret set of parameters that sustain the signal.
 
LOL  - not.  My brief experience trying Pspice ended when I couldn't seem to find any AC power source to run a sim.  I didn't really give it a chance though as I was just too busy at the time.  I think I'll give it another try seeing how much fun you and teslaset are having with it :)   
   Glad to see there is something of interest in this circuit.  If it gets to the point where anyone can suggest a good type of transformer to try a real test with I'd like to give this a try.  Hopefully with hundreds of transformers laying around I'll have something right here. 

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2011, 06:50:56 PM »
@teslaalset,

I think this needs to be taken care of soon too: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg189624#msg189624 . That's Rosematy Ainslie's circit. @poynt99 has analyzed it but with some latest version of PSpice that is incompatible with ours, so that version has to be found, unless we're set to make the schematic ourselves. I'd prefer to use @poynt99's files because he's the PSpice guru here. Kapanadze's circuit is also to be deconstructed and analyzed for possible OU, probably Valeri Ivanov's and a couple of other claims. Steorn's solid-state device too. 

teslaalset

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2011, 08:37:05 PM »
@teslaalset,

I think this needs to be taken care of soon too: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg189624#msg189624 . That's Rosematy Ainslie's circit. @poynt99 has analyzed it but with some latest version of PSpice that is incompatible with ours, so that version has to be found, unless we're set to make the schematic ourselves. I'd prefer to use @poynt99's files because he's the PSpice guru here. Kapanadze's circuit is also to be deconstructed and analyzed for possible OU, probably Valeri Ivanov's and a couple of other claims. Steorn's solid-state device too.

Haha, lots on the wish list.
I just wanna play with this one a bit more.
It could be a basis to understand the real Joule Thief stuff a bit better.

Glad you could get this one running.
Thanks for the cooperation here!

teslaalset

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2011, 11:05:16 AM »
An update on my simulations.

It appears that the step size of the simulation profile settings are of great influence on the stationary situation obtained.

Below 2 figures.
The first on shows the result of the voltage over the resistor between 1 and 5 seconds, having the default step size (blank input field of the step size in profile settings).
In the original article e2matrix that referred to, the default setting was used.
The second one show the results with step size set to 100 us.

What this shows is that the step size is a critical parameter in the simulations.
Not varying this parameter will cause wrong conclusions.

Next thing I am interested in is the energy consumed in the resistor compared to the energy present in the charged capacitor at the start of the simulation.
This will give a clearer answer in the COP ratio of the circuit. More to come!

teslaalset

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2011, 12:36:55 PM »
B.t.w. I like the way PSpice enables the generation of the B-H curves of the non-linear transformer.
- monitor current in the primary winding
- monitor voltage at the secondary winding
- integrate secondary winding voltage
- plot a X-Y diagram of primary current and integrated secondary winding voltage

Paul-R

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Re: FREE ENERGY AC GENERATOR ?
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2012, 06:22:35 PM »

Where do you get the transformer  k3019pl_3c8?
The turns ratio is approximately the same as a microwave oven transformer.