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Author Topic: Video: Working Gravity Wheel?  (Read 26915 times)

Offline 4Tesla

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Video: Working Gravity Wheel?
« on: March 29, 2012, 08:58:09 AM »
« Last Edit: March 29, 2012, 08:26:28 PM by 4Tesla »

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Video: Working Gravity Wheel?
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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2012, 03:06:29 PM »
This is how pranks start. Hope I'll be proved wrong.

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2012, 04:52:45 PM »
Not saying it's a hoax but the way it's constructed with the bottom of the rim oh so close to the baseplate, there is a place there for a pinch roller . Notice when he spins the whole thing the center point is about exactly beneath the wheel (where the drive would be hidden (hole in the table ) ). Just my opinion .

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2012, 06:39:04 PM »

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2012, 07:10:05 PM »
Nice. Wonder how he manage to make that wheel to run. Maybe we should ask him to repeat the experiment outdoor - on the ground, no table.
Possible explanation: The two tracks is powered by a battery. The steel ball will try to escape the magnetic field by the field around the ball, so it want to roll away, but pushes the track away instead?



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Offline Gwandau

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2012, 08:06:33 PM »

christo4_99 and Low-Q,
 
I totally agree, magnet motors and gravity machines like this has to be constructed by a totally transparent non conductive material
like for example unbreakable polycarbon and the experiment must be performed on a glass table with perfect lighting, otherwise the credibility
of the whole thing will fail.
 
I would like to postulate this as a universal rule for anyone doing experiments involving permanent magnets or/and gravity,
since it is so frustrating to watch all these videos only showing parts of the mechanism or placed upon tables with an abundance
of possibilities to rig the whole thing.
 
I am really annoyed, since I am one of those that actually believe there must be a way to create the needed differential neccessary
to make these things work.

Now, since it is impossible to execute such a postulate once and for all, I will repeat this demand every single time there is anything
like that posted on overunity.com.

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2012, 08:26:00 PM »
Yep.. it could be fake.. at :57 in the video there is a sound that sounds like air.  Such a nice build.. why do people spend so much time on fake motors?

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel? BUSTED
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2012, 09:09:13 PM »
Listen to the audio track. The audio has been edited. The sound of the ball is repeating all the time. Between each repeat it is silence before you hear the "ball start rolling again". The video has probably been muted at suitable places, so we cannot hear the air blowing on the wheel, but he hadn't the tools to edit away the pause in the sound.
Probably? Well, I am quite sure.

Edit: Actually, the sound recorded at the manual spin is used to fake this video...


One of few hoax that has bee busted before reaching 2 pages on this forum  ;D

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel? BUSTED
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2012, 04:23:57 AM »
Listen to the audio track. The audio has been edited. The sound of the ball is repeating all the time. Between each repeat it is silence before you hear the "ball start rolling again". The video has probably been muted at suitable places, so we cannot hear the air blowing on the wheel, but he hadn't the tools to edit away the pause in the sound.
Probably? Well, I am quite sure.

Edit: Actually, the sound recorded at the manual spin is used to fake this video...


One of few hoax that has bee busted before reaching 2 pages on this forum  ;D

Vidar

Actually, to be fair, I've done a lot of audio editing and that is the exact effect you get when you remove "white noise" from the background of an audio file.  All the spaces between sounds you want to keep, get virtually muted (or he may have manually just muted them too) by the noise removal tool.  Audacity has a fairly easy 2 step tool for doing this.  First step is to grab a very short example of nothing but the white noise, and the second step is to use that sample to remove that sound from the rest of the audio selected.

... or it could be a fake, like you said.  My personal opinion though is that the audio is no reason to disregard this video.  I would rather be suspicious over the other items mentioned above - that it wasn't done on glass, with good lighting or in several locations.  So yes... possibly fake, but not because of what I hear on the audio.

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel? BUSTED
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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel? BUSTED
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2012, 10:04:01 AM »
Actually, to be fair, I've done a lot of audio editing and that is the exact effect you get when you remove "white noise" from the background of an audio file.  All the spaces between sounds you want to keep, get virtually muted (or he may have manually just muted them too) by the noise removal tool.  Audacity has a fairly easy 2 step tool for doing this.  First step is to grab a very short example of nothing but the white noise, and the second step is to use that sample to remove that sound from the rest of the audio selected.

... or it could be a fake, like you said.  My personal opinion though is that the audio is no reason to disregard this video.  I would rather be suspicious over the other items mentioned above - that it wasn't done on glass, with good lighting or in several locations.  So yes... possibly fake, but not because of what I hear on the audio.

Energy4Power
Here is a sound comparison from two different places in the video. I copied one loop in left channel, and copied another loop later in the video at right channel. The visual audio output is zoomed in to easier see the comparison. Is it still any doubt that this video is a fake?
http://www.lyd-interior.no/Technical/Fake-sound.jpg


PS! They ar still slightly different, but that is caused by the sample rate, audio compression etc.

EDIT: Here is a sound file you can listen to. It is stereo where the two clips is on each channel. Listen to it and confirm that the sound is equal on left and right.
http://www.lyd-interior.no/Technical/Fake-sound.mp3

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2012, 12:09:34 PM »
If there is an air blower near by it is not shown in video shadows.   Maybe there is also a one-way bearing being used that makes this work?
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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2012, 12:18:36 PM »
oh here we go again... ::)
what? no skeptics hollering "it's fishing wire!"?

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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2012, 12:23:17 PM »
If there is an air blower near by it is not shown in video shadows.   Maybe there is also a one-way bearing being used that makes this work?
Bill
If there is a one way bearing, these bearings does not run by them self just because they cannot turn the wrong way. No shadows doesn't mean that there isnt a air blower there. And it does not have to be powered by air at all. Look at the persons sweater it does not move from air blow.


The key question is: Why should he edit the sound in the video at all? It is still noisy, so it couldn't be for that reason. I see no other reason why he should but hiding any suspicious sounds from anything that powers the wheel. There is also no reason why this wheel would work at all in the first place - solely by gravity and magnetism.


However, I cannot refuse anyone to believe what they want, but I take the freedom to encourage people to use common sense.


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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 07:51:07 PM »
Guys,
 
this is quite an easy experiment to validate.
Anyone with a normal garage workshop will create such a wheel in an hour, and neos do we all have.
 
I might just test it for fun. Nothing to lose but your ego, and that's not a loss worth grieving. ;D
 
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Re: Video: Working Gravity Wheel?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 08:42:37 PM »
I experimented once with such a setup.
The ball or roller just get to the max sticking point and stays there, fixed.
Once fixed, no more movement, neither in the ball nor in the wheel
video analisys is OK but experimentation is better.
cheers

 

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