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TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4920 on: October 09, 2012, 02:26:12 PM »
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TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4921 on: October 11, 2012, 02:49:04 PM »
I wonder if I can use GMeast's technique to analyze the power in and out of this device.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0SfDwyM7Kk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11cBBjjd2qA

TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4922 on: October 14, 2012, 10:21:09 AM »
No comments? Heck, I have oscillations, a negative mean power product, high voltage output, can charge batteries and capacitors, light up incandescent bulbs brighter than with equivalent DC power...... I guess there's no excitement, because I'm not claiming "free energy" or overunity performance.

By the way, did I mention that our boffins, to the man, have endorsed my measurements? I also have test results from FGH, CBPP Inc. and DeLaCroix themselves that my device works just as I show.

Meanwhile.... yet more delays from Ainslie, who promised months ago to post her videos refuting my several points, but of course will not do so. There will be NO TESTING and NO VIDEOS forthcoming from Ainslie, never fear. She won't even post a video to PROVE ME WRONG.... because she cannot.

Meanwhile, let's not forget that Tar Baby can do, and HAS DONE, every single thing that Ainslie claims that her NERD circuit can do.... and just like her NERD circuit, the batteries DO run down and do so in a perfectly normal manner. Not only that, but I have an analogous circuit that runs on CAPACITORS ONLY and makes the same negative mean power result, thanks to .99. I also have many other circuits using switched mosfets and bipolar transistors that do much more amazing and interesting stuff than the NERD circuit does.

What exactly IS the NERD circuit, anyway? Out of all the copies of the several "papers" that Ainslie has scattered around the internet, it's hard to find an agreement. And after the history of the Ainslie affair is considered.... is anyone going to believe anything but ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS of both sides of her experimental board, since she herself manifestly does NOT EVEN KNOW HOW to read a schematic? I know I certainly won't.

Meanwhile we already know that Ainslie has no qualms about claiming to use one schematic circuit when she's actually using another completely different one, as she did from the date of her earlier video in March of last year, all the way through April when .99 finally analyzed the photos and posted the ACTUAL circuit that she used. Nearly a month of lies, over 400 forum posts discussing the WRONG circuit, because either she was so incompetent that she really didn't know, or she is so mendacious and prevaricating that she tried deliberately to cover up and mislead her replicators.

Hey, NERDS.... why don't you show a circuit that is running on a battery that IT CHARGED ITSELF..... like I can do, and have done, and will do again. Let me answer for you: because you cannot.

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4923 on: October 14, 2012, 05:44:16 PM »
Depressing news. Gmeast has discovered that his battery-powered free energy device is powered by... the batteries. And, sadly, it only runs as long as the batteries are charged. And the batteries run down; they don't stay charged or increase their state of charge like they are supposed to. But they heat a resistor! A few tenths of a degree hotter than DC calculated power !!
At least, until they run down.

Do you think we will see a simple Dim Bulb test from GMeast? I don't.


You guys can't even do a good job of attempting to discredit someone.  If you use 1 watt of electrical power to supply a circuit that produces 1.5 watts (equivalent) of heat, then it's a winner.  The excess power doesn't have to come in the form of electrical components at all.  Trying to "close the loop" with a matching type of power is probably impossible in a legitimate system.


So, this thread is the height of social acceptance for you guys.  As I had said before, you are all like a bunch of 5th graders exhibiting nothing more than a 'feeding frenzy, pack mentality'.  I'll have the last laugh.

poynt99

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4924 on: October 14, 2012, 05:57:21 PM »

mrsean2k

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4925 on: October 14, 2012, 08:54:56 PM »
@gmeast

Doesn't the fact that your calculation of power was hopelessly flawed wrt allowing for the duty cycle originally give you any pause for thought that your calculations and / or methods are flawed in some other way?

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4926 on: October 14, 2012, 09:51:46 PM »

You guys can't even do a good job of attempting to discredit someone.  If you use 1 watt of electrical power to supply a circuit that produces 1.5 watts (equivalent) of heat, then it's a winner.  The excess power doesn't have to come in the form of electrical components at all.  Trying to "close the loop" with a matching type of power is probably impossible in a legitimate system.


So, this thread is the height of social acceptance for you guys.  As I had said before, you are all like a bunch of 5th graders exhibiting nothing more than a 'feeding frenzy, pack mentality'.  I'll have the last laugh.

gmeast,

As an alternate input power measurement, you might consider temporarily replacing your battery(s) with a decent sized capacitor and connecting your precision supply to the cap.  Your supply will then indicate the amount of DC current at a given DC voltage that your circuit is drawing.  Use an electrolytic cap with a small ceramic cap in parallel, both of the proper voltage rating.

Just a suggestion... 

PW


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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4927 on: October 14, 2012, 09:55:28 PM »
Have you figured out yet that Ainslie is a liar, GMEAST? Got anything like her reported results yet? COP >17, batteries that do not discharge, boiling water, dissipating 5.9 megaJoules in 45 minutes? Scope traces that indicate 12 volts to a mosfet gate but ZERO current? Can you do that, with a working mosfet and a correctly wired circuit? I don't think so, but you could always TRY to PROVE ME WRONG. You cannot, though.

No, of course you don't have anything like her reported results. Nobody does, nobody ever did, not even her. She's been stringing you along, and you still haven't been able to refute a single thing we've poynted out to you.

Your double application of the duty cycle in your calculations, repeated several times and even defended by you and Ainslie, indicates that you may know how to punch a calculator but you don't really understand what you are doing. The fact that you _think_ you understand, while demonstrating that you do not, is another prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.

TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4928 on: October 14, 2012, 10:11:35 PM »

You guys can't even do a good job of attempting to discredit someone.  If you use 1 watt of electrical power to supply a circuit that produces 1.5 watts (equivalent) of heat, then it's a winner.  The excess power doesn't have to come in the form of electrical components at all.  Trying to "close the loop" with a matching type of power is probably impossible in a legitimate system.


So, this thread is the height of social acceptance for you guys.  As I had said before, you are all like a bunch of 5th graders exhibiting nothing more than a 'feeding frenzy, pack mentality'.  I'll have the last laugh.

You quoted me but you did not refute me.  Just WHEN will you be having this "last laugh" of yours? Your calorimetry is a nice effort for a rank amateur, but hopelessly flawed. The "fact" that you are getting an "overunity" result should indicate to you that there is something wrong with your methodology and/or your measurements, NOT that you have broken the laws of reality. You should be doing everything in your power to refute your own results, because that is how real science is done. You have already noticed that, as your measurements and technique get better, your "overunity" result diminishes, and now it's so small that it can easily be attributed to noise in your experiment, measurement error, calibration problems. That in itself should tell you something. But you are blinded by your own brilliance and you have been bamboozled by the Ainslie personality phenomenon. Laugh away, Gmeast.... I certainly am laughing too. But not with you---- rather, I laugh AT you, for being such a hopeful fool that you have fooled yourself.

AND LEARN THE MEANING OF SIGNIFICANT DIGITS. When you cite results to the hundred thousandth or a millionth of a Watt, we can know one thing for sure about your result : the numbers are wrong. YOU CANNOT HAVE MORE PRECISION IN YOUR RESULT THAN THE LEAST PRECISE VALUE THAT GOES INTO THE CALCULATION. Claiming otherwise is.... an error.

TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4929 on: October 16, 2012, 10:17:29 AM »
Ah, Ainslie is displaying her superb research and investigative skills once again, for all the world to see. What a vile and hateful female, full of bile and bitter gall she is. All of which might be tolerable if she were only right about something, once in a while.

Watch out, Mookie, the big bad Ainslie wench is coming to get...... someone she thinks might be you.

I swear, this couldn't be more hilarious if it were on daytime television.



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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4930 on: October 20, 2012, 05:07:39 PM »
STILL I DONT SEE ANYONE DISPUTES GMEAST RESULTS, NOT PROPERLY. THE CALORIMETER IS PROOF ENOUGH AND YOU ALREADY ADMIT THAT MEASURING IS DIFFICULT?

TinselKoala

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4931 on: October 20, 2012, 05:39:14 PM »
STILL I DONT SEE ANYONE DISPUTES GMEAST RESULTS, NOT PROPERLY. THE CALORIMETER IS PROOF ENOUGH AND YOU ALREADY ADMIT THAT MEASURING IS DIFFICULT?

I'll be glad to dispute GMEAST's results, or anyone else's, PROPERLY.... when they are properly reported, or when the miracle device is submitted for proper testing in a real calorimeter,  Ainslie SOCK PUPPET.

Meanwhile it is sufficient to note that NONE of Ainslie's claims have been supported by outside testing. Not one. Even GMEAST himself has found that 1) the circuit diagram published in the Quantum article is wrong; 2) the reported heat profiles from that article CANNOT be reproduced at the duty cycles and frequencies that were claimed to be used; 3) even after the most egregious fudging and miscalculation, nothing even approaching the claimed 17 to 1 COP was attained by him; 4) now that he finally has seen his math and conceptual errors with the electrical calculations--- which he said, being a PWM expert and all -- were so simple at first -- he refuses to continue to use them since they indicate underunity, and instead has redone his "calorimetry" and has found that his "overunity" results get smaller and smaller as he refines his procedure, and is now so small it is easily attributed to experimental error. It is NOTHING LIKE the COP>17 Ainslie claimed; in fact his present results are barely over COP 1 .... thus, it is YET ANOTHER set of datapoints that refute the lying mendacious claims of Rosemary Ainslie.

Meanwhile, no proper testing has been produced, nor will it be,  by the mendacious, vile Ainslie, who has no qualms about "outing" her critics and calling them rat-faced trolls, and worse. When she identifies someone by name and affiliation and insults them and makes false criminal accusations against them, her paranoid delusional fantasy has crossed the line that separates harmless play from legally actionable libel.

poynt99

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4932 on: October 20, 2012, 05:49:06 PM »
STILL I DONT SEE ANYONE DISPUTES GMEAST RESULTS, NOT PROPERLY. THE CALORIMETER IS PROOF ENOUGH AND YOU ALREADY ADMIT THAT MEASURING IS DIFFICULT?
Rosemary,

Why should anyone pay any attention to gmeast's results, when neither he nor you are willing to refute my unjustly-deleted arguments against his grossly-erroneous COP computations?

And why do you keep coming back here? Things too quiet in your sandbox?

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4933 on: October 20, 2012, 05:54:33 PM »
you admit geast is getting better and better at measuring and yet give no credit and only criticize. it looks as though its one sided from here.

MileHigh

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Re: Testing the TK Tar Baby
« Reply #4934 on: October 21, 2012, 02:08:12 PM »
She has gone back to the strategy of posting back and forth to herself.  The level of obsession is psychologically unhealthy.