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Offline dreamyear

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overunity magnet transformer
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:37:32 AM »

electromagnetic  combined with permanent  magnet




video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMaAO10XSs
« Last Edit: February 21, 2015, 12:22:46 AM by hartiberlin »

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overunity magnet transformer
« on: March 23, 2012, 05:37:32 AM »

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2012, 05:10:55 PM »
@dreamyear

Can you list some of the test results that you observe (frequency and input voltage/amps vs. output voltage/amps)?

And the magnets and coil specifications for possible duplication?

Sincerely,
truesearch

Offline dreamyear

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 05:27:48 PM »

video u seen was 60hz 220v to 12v


it's not high output but...it proves eletro magnetic flux can travel to permanent magnet..
   
i suggest u use  weak magnet...or else iron core become magnetized


coil....is just simple coil...nothing special





@dreamyear

Can you list some of the test results that you observe (frequency and input voltage/amps vs. output voltage/amps)?

And the magnets and coil specifications for possible duplication?

Sincerely,
truesearch

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 05:27:48 PM »
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Offline thngr

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 11:19:52 PM »
your idea is the most probable idea for over unity machines... but few ideas i had to add, if you do not mind.
to induce magnetic flux in a transformer we have to use allot of current and electric potential; thus when we apply the dc current to transformer it would go up slowly by the comparison to a solenoid without any cores. This is because of unaligned magnetic iron core (lots of tiny magnets and metallic bonds of iron) just like mechanically compressed steel springs(potential energy). What about doing it with magnets? according to underunity people: " it is also potential energy" I don't think so but special conditions like do not interact while your magnetic flux is forming. we have to think ac. electricity as dc current single pulse form.
 
Explanation about turxator: the primary is not ordinary one and needed spires are 4 times grater than normal transformer.(AC.) secondaries are normal like transformer math but half wave rectifiers are present, to catch unused(by primary) magnets growing flux to induce current.

Offline Neo-X

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 04:45:55 PM »
Interesting.. Is their anyone already build this? I really want to know if this can become overunity.

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 04:45:55 PM »
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Offline electroon

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2015, 07:21:42 PM »
can you share this video again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMaAO10XSs   
please, I need it. or can you help, wherefrom can I find?

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 12:18:50 AM »
Here is the new video of the new
Alperen Satellite TurXator®   power overunity transformer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuXv9iGlW2k

It shows 350 Watts of power output while input stays at Zero Watts !

Well, if this is real it is a big breakthrough !

Enjoy !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2015, 12:18:50 AM »
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Offline Void

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2015, 02:39:38 AM »
Here is the new video of the new
Alperen Satellite TurXator®   power overunity transformer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuXv9iGlW2k
It shows 350 Watts of power output while input stays at Zero Watts !
Well, if this is real it is a big breakthrough !
Enjoy !
Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan. The device looks interesting, but with no info about exactly what they are doing
it is pretty hard to assess.
All the best...

Offline ramset

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 03:10:06 AM »
Where are these fellows from [the men with Gloves]
Alperen Satellite TurXator ?
and I see an emphatic not for sale?

that's good but what are their plans?

thx
Chet

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2015, 03:10:06 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2015, 03:33:41 AM »
Well, if it's using zero watts... that is, drawing no power from the power supply... then why does it have to be plugged into the supply at all? Just unplug that sucker and let it keep lighting up the bulbs.


Think about it.


Besides, the input power meter is in the wrong place. It should be between the power supply and the wall plug, not between the supply and the "world's first overunity satellite generator."  I am always amused by these Free Energy devices that need big power supplies to operate, as if the power supply wasn't part of the system.

Did you notice that several times, there _was_ a nonzero reading on the Input meter, just as the camera pans away or back to it? I did. For example at 0:27, the input meter reads 75.2.

Offline John.K1

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 07:54:22 AM »
TK, that reading of some wats can be related to the device in the state of oversaturation - as I registerd some comment there. My question is- does wattmeters measure active, reactive or both powers? ;)

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2015, 07:54:22 AM »
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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2015, 09:22:55 AM »
Well TK,
do you think their Variac jams these digital power meters ?
But surely we don´t know, how the waveform looks, that comes out
of the Variac type device. Maybe it is not a sine wave and only has spikes, so the
wattage is not displayed right on the right side Wattmeter in the video ?

Well, if they want to show it better, they should just leave out the variac and run the device
directly from the mains with the Wattmeter directly after the wall plug, so we can be sure that the
Wattmeter really gets 50 Hz sine wave as the input.

By the way these guys are from Turkey and
yes, a digital Wattmeter can read active and apparent power and
calculates the Power Factor out of it..so it can display Active Watts, Cos Phi Power factor
and apparent power in VA. the more expensive ones probably  also show Reactive Power in VARs.

See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power

Regards, Stefan.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2015, 10:07:26 AM »
No, I don't think that the Variac is jamming the meter.

The frame at 0:27 shows a reading, which indicates to me that the meter is getting an unstable signal and can't "lock on" to the actual power that is being drawn. The device is probably using some chopper circuitry which is drawing power in very short pulses rather than continuous AC sine waveforms. Perhaps the short pulses are even irregularly timed. One must use oscilloscope measurements to determine the shape of the waveforms, or a truly broadband (and expensive) power meter like a Clarke-Hess 2335A or similar. 

We don't even really know if the Variac is all that there is in the big box, do we? Maybe it's a DC power supply. Can the consumer grade, line cord Wattmeter read DC power at all? I don't know. 

I do know this though: If it needs to be connected to a power supply to operate, then the device is not drawing "zero power" no matter what a meter reads.

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2015, 10:32:07 AM »
Talking about the transformers ,active and reactive power, on my learning path I started to make a BiToroid transformer. I have made a structure as on the picture below. Side coils have both 600 turns of 0.3 wire and remains to make a central coil.  Has anybody experience here with this or similar set-up. Does it work?  Any design-build suggestions ?
Thanks,

Offline MenofFather

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Re: overunity magnet transformer
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2015, 11:05:37 AM »
Talking about the transformers ,active and reactive power, on my learning path I started to make a BiToroid transformer. I have made a structure as on the picture below. Side coils have both 600 turns of 0.3 wire and remains to make a central coil.  Has anybody experience here with this or similar set-up. Does it work?  Any design-build suggestions ?
Thanks,
I try something similar. I not get overunity.

 

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