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Title: piezoelectric energy
Post by: rlm555339 on April 12, 2005, 03:58:27 AM
Let's just squeeze some crystal and harvest the results.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/p/pi/piezoelectricity.htm

Seems like it's the thing to do these days......many are doing it.  Why can't we do it at home?
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: TechStuf on April 12, 2005, 07:08:15 AM
The real bang for the buck seems to be in replicating the Kowsky-Frost reverse PE effect study.....

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/KFrost.htm

http://www.rense.com/general54/babalc.htm


Peace,

M.R.

Given the intriguing nature of mechanical standing waves and the nominal input requirements for their maintenance.....it might prove interesting to see how much energy could be gathered and rectified by piezo arrays at the end of an Alpenhorn.  Certainly not enough to power a small air compressor at it's mouth.....


Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: atomiverse on April 13, 2005, 11:06:38 AM
My two cents on piezoelectricity would be 1) that I've read and been told that it doesn't yield that high a bang for the buck though the underlying argument has to echo Les McCann -- "Compared to What?" and 2) there are some new materials out that seem to have very high elasticity, which might have implications for piezoelectricity and 3) it seems I've read that this is being explained a dozen other ways like pn junctions and electron holes and such and 4) I love the elegance of sand being squeezed until it sends out an electrical spark, and doing it thousands of times, as with gas ranges. Pretty intense.
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: TechStuf on April 13, 2005, 07:02:14 PM
Consider the following......

http://www.main.org/polycosmos/gravhack/gravity.htm

and

More interesting 'piezobabble' almost half way down the following page:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/physics/Cold-fusion/fd-latest/thruFD3200


Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: kenbo0422 on April 17, 2005, 10:02:10 PM
About the only applications I've come across for crystals are: crystal oscillators and a piezo stage we use at work to do surface mapping on various materials.  The piezo stage will move 200 x 200 um, and our transducer head keeps a slight pressure on the surface (micronewtons) while it moves and maps the surface much like an atomic force microscope, which I hate using because they are so sensitive while handling them that once you get the damn thing setup, your cantilever under the laser has already broken and you have to put a new tip in it and try again.  I digress...

I don't beleive the stage crystals expand 200microns, but us a racheting device, basically a piezo motor.
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: TechStuf on April 18, 2005, 01:34:11 AM
Spill it Ken.


Spill it good....duh duh duh duh......

 8)

Pleez tell us (ok, me) more about your work.




Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: Vorg on May 11, 2005, 07:12:31 PM
Just need to use the right cystals. Need to find some Dylithium cyrstals  ::)
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: TechStuf on May 11, 2005, 10:44:42 PM
Dilithium....that's so.....70s.


Give me some PWO crystals.....and get out of my way!


 8)
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: atomiverse on May 12, 2005, 02:31:46 AM
I just googled PWO crystals, and it sounds like that's a whole other forum, unless you know something about whacking them with a hammer. Seeing that they grow them on platinum, I'm wondering.

So, now I've visited yet more high energy pages... great, fat chance of being able to leave the country... >:( thanks

Al the HE pages want to talk about is sending radiation through them -- what connection to piezoelectricity?

But unless we're constantly being bombarded by something weird like reverse polarized gamma radiation, what application?
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: TechStuf on May 12, 2005, 09:31:46 AM
What application?  I second the question.

Consider your passport carte blanche to anywhere but the baltics.......so let it be written....

And may you be bumped to 1st class on every flight....


(insert Rod Serling theme here)

 8)
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: Charlie Brown ARN on May 14, 2005, 03:06:42 AM
Simple colloidial crystals may not be enough to get to triboluminescence from brownian movement. A micromachined flat array of crystals with arms and paddles may be needed. Even if impractical it would be a thermal energy mover / entropy reducer / device which absorbs ambient heat and yields light.

Aloha, Charlie
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: TechStuf on May 14, 2005, 06:01:52 AM
A Noble idea....

 8)
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: lanca on May 27, 2005, 12:29:15 AM

robert henson:developping a silicium-antimony cyclotron in a cristal-cube form
electrical input:1 unit
ir-wavwes output:184000 units
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: lanca on May 27, 2005, 01:47:42 AM
robert e. henson;go to dpma.de and then click patente and the next
step introduce the us5252176 in veroeffentlichungsnummer
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: andreas_varesi on May 30, 2005, 05:15:10 PM
Also look at http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,120.0.html "Heat conversion by using piezzo effect" here are also some patent references linked.

Regards

Andreas Varesi
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: lanca on May 31, 2005, 03:18:00 AM
the idea is the couple of
us4658171  heat engine,Hawley  and the henson-gadget
silicium is cheap
antimony is cheap
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: BushWacker on June 28, 2005, 08:27:15 AM
For those of you who are interested in piezo technologies, here are some links to the latest developments. This device is called a "Transoner" it is said to be 10 times as efficient as conventional piezo crystals. Until just recently, this technology has been restricted to NASA and the U.S., military. In the last month or so it has become available to certain person's who meet their special requirements and wish to purchase a license to use and/or distribute this tech. I have tried, but they don't like me I guess. WAH WAH WAH!

Cheers,

J.D.


Transoner Licensing Web-Site:

Face Electronics
http://www.transoner.com/licenses.html#patent


Transoner pdf link:
http://kirkof.psu.edu/Banff%202004/Uchino%20PiezoTransformer.pdf


More transoner info - alternative site:
http://www.worldandi.com/newhome/public/2004/april/nspub1.asp
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: BushWacker on August 17, 2005, 09:48:51 AM
Hi Everyone,

    Here is some interesting information concerning new materials developments. I believe that to some extent there are some similarities between what is happening in the nanocrystaline core of the HOPE Generator.

Cheers,

Jim

New Source of Energy Using Nanotechnology



MU Researchers Develop New Source of Energy Using Nanotechnology
Reaction Can Occur in Microseconds on Surfaces as Small as Microchips
By Jeffrey Neu

COLUMBIA, Mo. -- Countries across the world continue to search for new ways to create energy. As our current means for energy continue to deplete, thus making them more expensive to generate, governments are searching for new energy resources. Researchers at the University of Missouri-Columbia have developed a more efficient source of energy involving nano-scale particles that take only microseconds to create and can be developed on a surface as small as a microchip.

"This technology is considerably less expensive than existing chemical and physical processes," said Shubhra Gangopadhyay, professor of electrical engineering at MU. "It creates high amounts of mechanical and thermal energy and can convert that energy into electrical energy. So, the possibilities are endless in terms of what this energy can do."

The energy is developed using solid state energetic material consisting of fuel and oxidizer. The nano-engineered energetic material generates a tremendous amount of thermal and mechanical energy when ignited. Electric power is generated using the thermoelectric effect. The microfabricated devices coated with the energetic material are capable of producing tens of joules, which are units of energy, in the fraction of a second, which can be used for pulsed power applications or can be stored in charge storage devices for later use in portable electronics.

Power also is generated by converting mechanical energy produced by shock waves into electrical energy utilizing piezoelectric materials, which are materials where the positive and negative electrical charges are separated, but symmetrically distributed, so that the material overall is electrically neutral. MU researchers currently are working on the process to couple the thermoelectric and piezoelectric effect to produce energy on a single chip.

Gangopadhyay says there currently are no obstacles to overcome with the research. She points out that the process can be done on glass without affecting its surface and does not necessarily need electricity to start it. All that is needed is friction or impact.

The researchers currently are seeking a patent for this technology.


Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: Vortex1 on November 26, 2007, 05:19:18 AM
See my post    http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,120.msg59797.html#msg59797

You may find it interesting.........
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on September 11, 2009, 02:27:51 AM
something I would like to try some day.

the piezoelectric sheet would 1/8 thick maybe 2'x4'ft rectangle shaped so the induction wave would cause the sheet to vibrate up and down on the ends to stress the crystal sheet and give off a high voltage spark.

Jerry
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on September 12, 2009, 07:36:15 AM
Has anyone tried using the casimir effect with Piezoelectric crystal plates?

Jerry ;)
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: lancaIV on April 15, 2021, 09:09:55 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)


Moved to ....  ?


https://www.whitepages.com/name/Robert-E-Henson/Sanibel-FL/PnyrWlpmo31 (https://www.whitepages.com/name/Robert-E-Henson/Sanibel-FL/PnyrWlpmo31)


Somebody in the U.S.A./Florida could try and contact this above listed person and if this will be the inventor to please to receive more background information about this device,now "open source" !?


cristal body dimension for 1 KW  equivalent radiant energy output :


in grams and the antimony-percentage !?










Sincerely


OCWL
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: ramset on April 16, 2021, 12:11:54 AM
I will try tomorrow.


Thx
Chet
Title: Re: piezoelectric energy
Post by: lancaIV on April 16, 2021, 12:09:47 PM
Thanks for the trial !
Independent of the fact that this person is or not the inventor :Antimon/-y is a -relatively- rare mineral !
Only,literature source dependent,1,5-5 Million tons world resources !
Maximal 1 Kg/private household ratio 2050 world habitants !




A teste and result confirmation,like in the description written,would let the market price sky rocking !
From 11 US$/Kg actually to 250-500 US$/Kg energetic advantages related !

Lithium with 86 Mio. tons world reserves had a 200% price increase since 2004  !




Let us see !

Sincere
OCWL