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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2006, 06:05:22 AM »
Now I got an answer from Upendra:


hi sir one wheel is power wheel which rotate by the weight(bit) falling from the hight and second one is joint with power wheel with the help of shaft and bearings and a gear system.there are bit receiver on power wheel they receive the bit(falling from the hieght) disbalance of weight will move the power wheel . bit is removed from the power wheel at the bottem so that power wheel will get movementem to complete the full round. by droping the one bit we get 20 rounds(without load) of power wheel.so we get near about 50 rounds of out put wheel .this rotation can be used to rotate the generator.>
>sir i know as per energy bit required same energy to get inside the water tank but we have make such a system that bit moves in side the water tank with minium energy(say 1/10 what we got).and procedure is like that water pressure is not opposing the inward motion of bit.sir i can tell about full system but i have a fear that if i told this think to u then there is nothing to do for me.please guide me thanks.
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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2006, 09:47:12 AM »
please just upload a video showing every part of its operation.

thanks

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2006, 12:41:16 PM »
That is the whole crux of the equation...getting the block or bit back into the tank to float up. I see problems with seals and energy needed to do the task. if this could be solved as he suggested then they have at least on paper something that could work.
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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2006, 12:41:16 PM »
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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2006, 10:24:52 PM »
>Hi Upendra,
>many thanks for your answers.

hi sir,the height of the water tank will be as much as u require because what ever height our bit gain that is the input to our system Say the height of water tank is 10meter then energy gain by the bit is1kg.10mtrs.10m/sec.sec=100j. now sir the radius of our power wheel is(say)4mtrs so now we are using the energy of falling bit to rotate the wheel and when bit is at lowest point of wheel then we remove the bit then also we have 2mtrs left for bit to fall that energy (of 2mtrs height) will insert the bit in water tank  due to buoncy our bit will get again 10 mtrs height so cycle is completed.

>If you have a special system for bringing the BITs
>into the tank, how much height do you need to push them
>into the water tank ?
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sir system which insert the bit in water tank is very simple but this thing creates alot of problem to manufacture because till now we dont have any support of workshop etc.but on paper we have proved that this is possible and very simple to understand.

>For instance, if one BIT is 1 KG
>and it falls 1 Meter, is this enough to get it into a 1 or 2 Meter high
>water tank ?
>Did you construct a special valve, that can handle the move-in of the BIT
>into the water ?


yes sir special valve is ready on paper.


>Many thanks.
>Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2006, 12:30:24 AM »
Unti that bit device for inserting it into the tank has been built and tested then this is just theory. Thats a shame. The mechanics of the rest of the device is simple and has a lot of merit but until they can get that bit into the tank to float up then it is not a proven system. The problem of getting the bit into the tank is two fold.
1. The presure it needs to over come
2. Designing seals so it wont leak water.

If they would come forward with this part of the design I would have it built in australia to test that one principle.
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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2006, 03:14:48 AM »
Hi Mark, you are totallay right. I posted this earlier in a hurry
and I guess, this is the hardest part of this motor concept, to get the BIT
into the water tank at the bottom side.
If they succeed to get the BIT into the water tank,
it probably will only be possible, while
water is leaking out and after a while all water
will be leaked out of the tank.
Then the question  is, how much energy you have gotten out
of the system until this time and if this is more than you have to use
to pump the water up again into the tank.
Probably pretty hard to do...
All these kind of "perpetual motion machines" based on putting floating things
into water containers had these problems and I don?t know somebody who has
yet solved these problems...

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2007, 02:16:08 PM »
Combination of gravity, anti-gravity ( thru magnet ) and Floatation does make sense, I have configured a small design which does have hope after calculating the moments, though slow speed. Centrifugal force being a negative. I will try out a model in free time the concept is simple

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2007, 06:02:51 PM »
Just an idea I'm throwing out.  I know my magnets do not float, I've seen magnets on the web that do.  I don't have the expertise to create a ball magnet that would float, but if someone here could here is an idea.  Picture the device kind of the shape of a bow from a bow and arrow.  The "string" part would be a channel for the ball to roll in due to gravity down at just a slight angle to an end where it would drop into a tube, the bow shaped area.  A smot ramp would force the ball to beyond the middle of the tube where it would float up and pop up to the string/gravity area to complete the cycle.  It may not be possible to balance it.  I know no one has posted any repeatable device of a closed smot loop, but perhaps making the magnet slightly buoyant can help tilt the balance enough to get past the sticky point.  Of course you would not want it to be extremely buoyant because you could not overcome it with magnetic attraction.. ie.. the smot to force it back down to the point it could float back again.   

Keep in mind, most likely my idea is worth what you paid for it.  ;D

Daniel

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2007, 12:36:50 AM »
I've spent quite a bit of time over the last several months studying everything I can find on mag motors, gravity wheels, all kinds of "free energy" stuff.

I am about to end my research because a distinct pattern is evident.

The best I can tell, nobody has ever created a device that "self runs" and actually demonstrated it in a credible, open way.

There is a pattern of making claims and never substantiating the claims.  There is sort of a standard list of what I will call "excuses" for why the devices can't be shown.

There is even a pattern in how the "inventors" communicate.  Something I find very strange is the misspelling of words, which appears to be done on purpose, by people who actually know better.  It is as though you have to look uneducated to be taken seriously in this arena.  There are other communication patterns, but purposely misspelling words is the strangest thing.

There is a pattern of "conspiracy theories", a pattern of hate for "non-believers", and somewhat of a religious atmosphere to the whole field.

There is general dislike for anyone that post things that are based upon traditional "science" - see reactions to "automan" for some examples.  Generally anybody that appears to have some formal education is treated as though they are nuts.

This site is not the only site I have frequented, and I pretty much find similar patterns everywhere I look.  A lot of big talk, nothing credible to back it up, and crazy conspiracy theories given as the reason why the "inventions" can't be shown.

With all that said, I am probably going to drop off the radar.  I have pretty much concluded that there is no device on the horizon that has any credible potential to self run or produce power out of thin air.  Peswiki has Perendev listed as the top technology in this field, and I don't believe Perendev will ever demonstrate a working device (especially a 300kw generator).  If Perendev is the best potential technology out there, there is really nothing worthwhile on the horizon.

The offers I've made to help people with drawing, machining, testing, etc. are still good.  Just message me and I'll respond by e-mail or message.

Jake

I had read once that the Wright brothers took a break from their aerofoil designs in 1900 for the same reason.

Ah sweet irony,
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