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Author Topic: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !  (Read 27508 times)

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New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« on: June 26, 2006, 02:22:01 PM »
Hi All,
user Tink has brought this up and I thank him very much
for providing the links in the other thread.

Here attached to this message is this recent new
gravity wheel by 3 Idian inventors. It can bee seen running
but unfortunately there is more interviews than showing the running
machine. But in the background you can see some principle diagrams.
It seems to be based on archimedes principle and also using magnetism,
so it is not a pure gravity wheel.
Enjoy!
Please post followups over here in this thread, when you find some news about it on
other sites.
Many thanks.

Here is the video. You must be logged into the forum to be able to download it.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2006, 10:18:37 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2006, 02:22:58 PM »
From:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/060624/139/65ctd.html

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Saturday June 24, 04:26 PM

Meerut youngsters claim to have invented new source of energy
   

Meerut, June 24 (ANI): Three friends belonging to varying backgrounds in Meerut have claimed to invent a novel source of energy that could provide an alternative to the power generated by high cost intensive big dams or nuclear and thermal power plants in future.he three individuals made it a point to work together for this revolutionary invention. The idea for such a concept was reached following a lot of discussion sessions on telephone and through Internet before deciding on the possible design and its operation.

"I and my two other friends began to think on this project since 2004 despite lack of resources. We were from three different fields as such we didn't have time to work together. We interacted with each other telephonically and over the Internet. And, last May, we got an opportunity to work together and, thus, we started the work on May 16"," said Upendra Chaudry, one of the inventors.

The new concept is based on gravitational force used as a mode of energy and, in their opinion, is very much cost effective.

The concept's working is based on three basic principles of gravitational pull on Earth, the Archimedes principle of floating and the magnetic force that are available at no cost. Financially and ecologically, our system is profitable and safe.

"Out of the different energies, we have chosen gravitational energy as the main source. Our system of harnessing gravitational energy doesn't need water or air. It can be used in any place since gravitational force is present everywhere. Even this can be set up in a room. Based on ourconcept and the designed system, gravitational energy is converted into electrical energy", said Vivek Kumar Bhutani, one of the inventors.

This new system provides promising, excellent and revolutionary solution for an eco-friendly energy generation, at almost no cost. An additional advantage is that the working of the generation system is possible anywhere and at any time.

"You have to invest money only once in coal and diesel and after that there is no need for any investment. It runs automatically. The environment is not affected in anyway by this system. Above all, no large space is needed to assemble this system," said Pradeep Kumar Singh, a student pursuing Masters in Bio Technology from Birla Institute of Technology and Science (BITS), Pilani.

While facing a lot of problems in arranging material and input of their choice, initially, the trio could not produce a complete working unit. But later, they proved their theoretical principle by making suitable changes in the assembly of their pilot project with the available sources. (ANI)

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2006, 02:25:44 PM »
The following is claimed:

    * It runs automatically
    * possible anywhere and at any time, since gravitational force is present everywhere
    * almost no cost
    * eco-friendly: the environment is not affected in any way by this system
    * No large space is needed to assemble this system

While facing a lot of problems in arranging material and input of their choice, initially, the trio could not produce a complete working unit. But later, they proved their theoretical principle by making suitable changes in the assembly of their pilot project with the available sources.

Inventors

All from Meerut, India

    * Pradeep Kumar Singh, a student pursuing Masters in Bio Technology from Birla Institute of Technology and Science (BITS), Pilani.

    * Vivek Kumar Bhutani

    * Upendra Chaudr

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2006, 02:49:33 PM »
Hmm,
what puzzles me, is that the principle diagram at the wall
does show different things, than the machines seems
to work on...
On the wall there is some water based principle, but the wheel
seems to need no water... Can somebody confirm this ?
Thanks.

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2006, 03:16:18 PM »
It is unfortunate that they don't actually show the device working in a credible way.

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2006, 04:08:47 PM »
It is unfortunate that they don't actually show the device working in a credible way.

Even if they did, there is no strength to the device to really have a useful power output.  But it is an interesting series of devices.

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2006, 05:02:44 PM »
It would be good,
if someone who speaks Idian language
could give a rough translation of waht the 3 inventors
say at the video interview.

Well, this might be just a typical news video interview
for the not too well schooled public, so they did not
show too much of the machine, but just the inventors with their
opinions...
so maybe we will get soon other video reports and high resolution
pictures from more technical people who have seen the machine...
At least in the video you can see, that there were many people
with digital cameras taking pictures...

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2006, 05:28:42 PM »
I've spent quite a bit of time over the last several months studying everything I can find on mag motors, gravity wheels, all kinds of "free energy" stuff.

I am about to end my research because a distinct pattern is evident.

The best I can tell, nobody has ever created a device that "self runs" and actually demonstrated it in a credible, open way.

There is a pattern of making claims and never substantiating the claims.  There is sort of a standard list of what I will call "excuses" for why the devices can't be shown.

There is even a pattern in how the "inventors" communicate.  Something I find very strange is the misspelling of words, which appears to be done on purpose, by people who actually know better.  It is as though you have to look uneducated to be taken seriously in this arena.  There are other communication patterns, but purposely misspelling words is the strangest thing.

There is a pattern of "conspiracy theories", a pattern of hate for "non-believers", and somewhat of a religious atmosphere to the whole field.

There is general dislike for anyone that post things that are based upon traditional "science" - see reactions to "automan" for some examples.  Generally anybody that appears to have some formal education is treated as though they are nuts.

This site is not the only site I have frequented, and I pretty much find similar patterns everywhere I look.  A lot of big talk, nothing credible to back it up, and crazy conspiracy theories given as the reason why the "inventions" can't be shown.

With all that said, I am probably going to drop off the radar.  I have pretty much concluded that there is no device on the horizon that has any credible potential to self run or produce power out of thin air.  Peswiki has Perendev listed as the top technology in this field, and I don't believe Perendev will ever demonstrate a working device (especially a 300kw generator).  If Perendev is the best potential technology out there, there is really nothing worthwhile on the horizon.

The offers I've made to help people with drawing, machining, testing, etc. are still good.  Just message me and I'll respond by e-mail or message.

Jake

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2006, 05:40:31 PM »
I've spent quite a bit of time over the last several months studying everything I can find on mag motors, gravity wheels, all kinds of "free energy" stuff.

I am about to end my research because a distinct pattern is evident.

The best I can tell, nobody has ever created a device that "self runs" and actually demonstrated it in a credible, open way.

There is a pattern of making claims and never substantiating the claims.  There is sort of a standard list of what I will call "excuses" for why the devices can't be shown.

There is even a pattern in how the "inventors" communicate.  Something I find very strange is the misspelling of words, which appears to be done on purpose, by people who actually know better.  It is as though you have to look uneducated to be taken seriously in this arena.  There are other communication patterns, but purposely misspelling words is the strangest thing.

There is a pattern of "conspiracy theories", a pattern of hate for "non-believers", and somewhat of a religious atmosphere to the whole field.

There is general dislike for anyone that post things that are based upon traditional "science" - see reactions to "automan" for some examples.  Generally anybody that appears to have some formal education is treated as though they are nuts.

This site is not the only site I have frequented, and I pretty much find similar patterns everywhere I look.  A lot of big talk, nothing credible to back it up, and crazy conspiracy theories given as the reason why the "inventions" can't be shown.

With all that said, I am probably going to drop off the radar.  I have pretty much concluded that there is no device on the horizon that has any credible potential to self run or produce power out of thin air.  Peswiki has Perendev listed as the top technology in this field, and I don't believe Perendev will ever demonstrate a working device (especially a 300kw generator).  If Perendev is the best potential technology out there, there is really nothing worthwhile on the horizon.

The offers I've made to help people with drawing, machining, testing, etc. are still good.  Just message me and I'll respond by e-mail or message.

Jake

It is clear that you need a free energy machine to run your radar. ;)

Patience is a virtue.  If I were you, I wouldn't give up just yet.

Liberty

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2006, 05:53:28 PM »
I won't give up.  I just won't spend as much time working on it.

Since I have some Indians that rent from me, I'll see if they can tell what is being said on the tape.  I'm pretty sure that the female voice on the tape is translating what the gentlemen are saying, but I'll have somebody listen to see if they can tell.  I think there are over 800 distinct dialects of Indian languages, so I don't know if they will be able to translate it.

(then I'll drop off the radar)

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2006, 06:16:01 PM »
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It would be good,
if someone who speaks Idian language
could give a rough translation of waht the 3 inventors
say at the video interview.

I had my renter listen to it.  He said that they said just about what the female voice on the tape says - They worked over the phones and internet until May, then worked together to make the device that works on gravity and magnetism, etc.


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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2006, 06:33:18 PM »
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It would be good,
if someone who speaks Idian language
could give a rough translation of waht the 3 inventors
say at the video interview.

I had my renter listen to it.  He said that they said just about what the female voice on the tape says - They worked over the phones and internet until May, then worked together to make the device that works on gravity and magnetism, etc.



To me, I guess what I find interesting is not just something that will self run (but it would be amusing to watch)...  I am interested in something, even if it uses a little power, that has enough excess strength or power to do real work, that would have the excess capability to recover the power that it uses and power something else.  That type of device would have potential to do more than just run itself, it would actually be a useful device, as opposed to one that we just watch run for fun, while having no practical use.

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2006, 03:28:10 PM »
Can somebody please try to find more infos via Indian forums ?
I don?t have much time currently to scan google or other sources.
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2006, 03:29:21 AM »
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It would be good,
if someone who speaks Idian language
could give a rough translation of waht the 3 inventors
say at the video interview.

I had my renter listen to it.  He said that they said just about what the female voice on the tape says - They worked over the phones and internet until May, then worked together to make the device that works on gravity and magnetism, etc.



To me, I guess what I find interesting is not just something that will self run (but it would be amusing to watch)...  I am interested in something, even if it uses a little power, that has enough excess strength or power to do real work, that would have the excess capability to recover the power that it uses and power something else.  That type of device would have potential to do more than just run itself, it would actually be a useful device, as opposed to one that we just watch run for fun, while having no practical use.

I find fans that you don't have to plug in to be very practical.  I'm going to turn all my free energy devices into fans because I live in a warm climate.

This is exactly what we need right now: working proof of concepts.  Torque and power output is not important right now.  Maybe the device can be tweaked to provide greater torque later on, or maybe it will be deemed impractical, but we need to show the scientific community and the world that we're not a bunch of loonies.

I wish I could examine the diagrams for this Indian made device.  I at least want to know if it works on a theoretical level.  The marriage of gravity, magnetism, and buoyancy is very interesting to me.

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Re: New Idian inventors gravity running wheel video !
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2006, 05:23:06 AM »
Hi All,
as I did not find any other news about this invention,
I just tried to extract a few better pics from this video
to see, how this thing works...
From the chart on the wall there it seems,
that it needs indeed water, what did puzzle me,
cause the 2 wheel system in the video did not seem
to use any water at all, at least not in the parts, where the
2 wheel system was shown..
Also at:
http://www.newkerala.com/news3.php?action=fullnews&id=13375

it was posted, that it does not need any water...
hmm, now look at these 6 pics I extracted and zoomed and cleared
up.
There it is functioning the following way:
The yellow "bits" seems to be wood blocks or things that can swim
in water at the surface...
So there is a main water tank where these bits are "hammered" at the bottom
via this hydraulic hammer system into the watertank.
Then these yellow bits have buoyancy and rise to the surface of the main
water tank while they propell the main belt system inside the tank
and when they get to the surface, they will fall off to the right side out of the tank and
run down the bit carrier slide runaway, where they fall via gravity into the output wheel
turning it and falling down again onto the hydraulic "hammer" pipe system, where they
hit the other bits already inside the channel to go into
the tank again. Then when the kinetic hit energy has been used, they just slide into the
row to be pushed into the water tank...


Hmm... I wonder if the 2 wheel system in the video is really this principle ?
Where is the magnetic part of it ?
It is also called "Maggravit", so it seems they also use magnets...
but where ?
Maybe the 2 wheel system is already an enhanced version, which
really needs no water ?
Or maybe it is only the output wheel thing, where the main thing,
the water tank is still missing and this 2 wheel system was only shown,
how the output wheel should have worked as a "show" item ?

Anyway, here are the 6 pics.. You must be logged into the forum to see
the pics.

Please post your comments to this function principle...
I guess it will be very hard to push the yellow weights
at the buttom into the water tank, as there is a pretty high
water pressure down there, which wants to push the weights
out off the tank and this pressure has to be overcome
by the hammering of the hydraulic system or any other trick...

Regards, Stefan.

 

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