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Title: LENR Roundup
Post by: fritz on February 13, 2012, 09:22:12 PM
Dear All,

Due to the actual hype on LENR and related technologies in this area, I´d like to start a thread analyzing the situation and discussing setups for replications.

Somehow I have the feeling that quite a few 2nd order violations or similar might be based on effects covered by LENR.

Let´s start with some analysis on Rossi´s work.

He harvests some exothermal effect emitted by a capsule filled with nickel and some secret stuff.
Additional he adds hydrogen or uses material which releases hydrogen.

To start this exothermal effect, he needs some initial energy which is fed by means of a resistive heating element. On exceeding this initial temperature, he gets an increasing cop which even enables "self sustained mode".

I would interpret that as that he can turn off the resistive element.

In his test setups, the typical approach is to derive the released energy by the amount of water converted to steam. So its obvious that the initial temperature involved is above water boiling point.

The effect somehow looks to be of the "avalanche" type - so after exceeding certain temperature - a steady increase in released energy is obvious.
Interesting that he explains the test-run of his 1MW plant limited to just 500kW because of "self sustaining mode".

It might be quite difficult to control that effect.
A serious point might be the thermal capacity of the setup.
By having a steady flow of medium he can increase that thermal capacity.
If the reactor starts to exceed the  rated performance he can cool it down by increasing the flow of the medium.

As long as he is controlling the effect by means of resistive pre-heating with reasonable but lower cop - it might be easier to control the effect.
If he wants to go self-sustained - the only way to control it would be the amount of energy transfered by the medium.
So this would mean that  he would need more flow control and more efficient heat exchangers to control such device self-sustained.

What do you think ?

rgds.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: fritz on February 13, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
LENR and Keely

Maybe a correlation of LENR and Keely might sound not too obvious...
Rossi claims to use some sort of rf which helps to break down coulomb barrier;
other claimed to use sonic waves (sono-luminescence)
Later Keely theories claimed that almost any matter can be manipulated by means of acoustic waves.

Looking at his machines, Keely had definitely some metallurgical background.
Maybe he stumbled on some kind of transmutations doing his experiments and founded his theory on these effects.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: teslaalset on February 13, 2012, 10:01:35 PM
The effect somehow looks to be of the "avalanche" type - so after exceeding certain temperature - a steady increase in released energy is obvious.
Interesting that he explains the test-run of his 1MW plant limited to just 500kW because of "self sustaining mode".

It might be quite difficult to control that effect.
A serious point might be the thermal capacity of the setup.
By having a steady flow of medium he can increase that thermal capacity.
If the reactor starts to exceed the  rated performance he can cool it down by increasing the flow of the medium.

As long as he is controlling the effect by means of resistive pre-heating with reasonable but lower cop - it might be easier to control the effect.
If he wants to go self-sustained - the only way to control it would be the amount of energy transfered by the medium.
So this would mean that  he would need more flow control and more efficient heat exchangers to control such device self-sustained.

What do you think ?

In my view the thermal effect is definitely an avalanche type.
This means that to control the process and avoid melting of the Ni powder a few options are to be considered:

1) Selfsustaining: the thermal capacity of a complete system is such that during too high heat production the cooling of the core is increased by increasing the (re)circulation of the cooling water, e.g. by increasing the pump rpm. This should be done such that the temperature of the core does not decrease too much as this will shut down the heat production process. Disadvantage of this option is that in case of a power failure, the core will melt due to a lack of cooling.

2) Heat biasing: A permanent electrical heating is present (by an electrical powered heating element) during heat generation of the actual LENR process. As soon as the temperature of the core get too hot the bias heating is reduced. If temperature drops too low, bias heating is increased (also used for starting up the process). This allows simple control and easy shut down of the system: simply shut down the heat biasing. It seems that the Hyperion of Defkalion uses a pulsed modulated biasing method.
When designed with adequate dimensions, this method allows a LENR process that can prevent a core melt down in case of a power failure.

In my view, for safety and robustness reasons, Rossi uses option 2).
Disadvantage is that there is a permanent electrical power required to keep the ecats running and this lowers the COP.
Rossi indicates that the home ecats have a COP>6, hinting at using permanent electrical energy to control the ecats.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: fritz on February 14, 2012, 03:58:33 PM
In my view, for safety and robustness reasons, Rossi uses option 2).
Disadvantage is that there is a permanent electrical power required to keep the ecats running and this lowers the COP.
Rossi indicates that the home ecats have a COP>6, hinting at using permanent electrical energy to control the ecats.

It would be interesting if its even possible to harvest that effect with pretty low thermal capacity and pulsed inductive or rf heating.
Those "avalanche type" effects in combination with high thermal capacity are not too fun to experiment with.

Another open point for me is if the heat is transfered from the heated powder - or if the heated powder radiates somewhat secondary into the enclosure....

rgds.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on January 19, 2015, 06:09:17 AM
Definitely uni-directional a)biased micro and macro cyclic gas flow currents going on inside powders at incredible speeds and b)uni-directional biased transfers of heat going on from ambient aswell as heating element
Title: Re: LENR Rounduphttp://newehttp://nergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/WLTheory.shtml#summary
Post by: sparks on March 10, 2015, 08:40:08 AM
  This reporter is on top of LENR research.  NASA is hopping on the bandwagon also.   Basically transmutation of stable elements to stable elements with access to the weak nuclear force doing the work.  Take atmospheric carbon dioxide and change it to nitrogen and oxygen.  The process is not fusion.  Though I believe it is the power supply for some of the unexplained gamma and antimatter generated in lightning storms.   Basically results from electron avalanches made possible by introduction of ionizing radiation into a stressed dielectric.  The electric field is responsible for the triggered electron avalanche just like gravity is responsible for snow avalanches.  The avalanche creates a dense accelerated negative plasma that slams into neutral stuff like water vapor=carbon dioxide=nitrogen that cause low energy nuclear reactions in the open atomosphere.  Just like lenr in the labs a small percentage are fusion reactions yielding gamma and antimatter but the bulk are just weak nuclear reactions. 
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/WL/WLTheory.shtml#summary
















Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: ramset on March 10, 2015, 01:59:47 PM
Sparks
Thank you for the wonderful link
The possibilities boggle the mind.


Chet
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: Rigel4 on March 11, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
Here is a link to download many current (and past) papers on LENR.
Take a look, it's free as in beer.

While I follow this topic, I have no faith in Mr. Rossi's  version of scientific method.
Handling the ash is a big no no. And probably the reason that replications are failing.
For myself the issue with the coulomb barrier is the primary problem that I see. I can accept some of the reasoning on the lack of radiation.

http://www.currentscience.ac.in/php/toc.php?vol=108&issue=04
They are in pdf format, the link may go away though. (It worked today)
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on March 11, 2015, 08:23:22 PM
All lenr is just a stressed thermodynamic hysteresis loop.the universe looks for the only way out of the loop and that is to collapse atomic matter within the loop.collapse it to the ground state,collapse it to the same extent that the hysterisis demands.extent of hysterisis=extent and rate of atomic decay to lower entropy states.let it be known that I'm the first guy in history to put this generalized mathmatical proportionality forward.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: TinselKoala on March 11, 2015, 09:00:07 PM
You aren't the first guy in history to be wrong, though.

You aren't even the first guy on this forum, today, to be wrong.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on March 11, 2015, 10:59:07 PM
Tinselkoala:'You aren't the first guy in history to be wrong, though.
You aren't even the first guy on this forum, today, to be wrong.'

Now wouldn't it be curtious to let us know exactly where I'm wrong.right?  you won't be able to point that out..
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: TinselKoala on March 12, 2015, 12:56:08 AM
Tinselkoala:'You aren't the first guy in history to be wrong, though.
You aren't even the first guy on this forum, today, to be wrong.'

Now wouldn't it be curtious to let us know exactly where I'm wrong.right?  you won't be able to point that out..

Quote
All lenr is just a stressed thermodynamic hysteresis loop.the universe looks for the only way out of the loop and that is to collapse atomic matter within the loop.collapse it to the ground state,collapse it to the same extent that the hysterisis demands.extent of hysterisis=extent and rate of atomic decay to lower entropy states.let it be known that I'm the first guy in history to put this generalized mathmatical proportionality forward.

Hyperbolic reluctance factors exacerbate resolution of time-scale nanostructures. You can combine eigenvalues and by discriminating the intensity-variant scaling factors, arrive at a rigorous derivation of magnetostriction harmonics. The nth harmonic always integrates to the square root of e. Within this general formula, particular statements of exact values of various variables can be calculated, including the extent of hysteresis. Therefore the lowest entropy state available is null. And I'm the first guy in history to put forth this generalized proof that you are pretty much just blowing smoke.
   
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on March 12, 2015, 02:48:43 AM
Tinselkoala:'including the extent of hysteresis.'

Not for a negentropic hyseresis no.a negentropic hysteresis(a hysteresis that decreases entropy)  will seek to increase entropy wherever it can(naturaly) and if the only avenue is atomic collapse then so it happens.the critical point where the hysteresis reaches such a degree that it triggers atomic collapse or atomic fusion is going to be known as the 'profitis point'.another first in history
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: sparks on March 13, 2015, 09:22:41 PM
     Say we take an element and catalyze an electron capture or k-capture.   Proton rest mass plus captured electron rest mass does not equal the rest mass of the neutron.   Where does the mass/energy come from in a neutron synthesis.  My thoughts are that the electrons in the k orbitals move at a large fraction of the speed of light.  When one of these particles gets bumped towards the nucleus by an electrmagnetic force it's relativistic mass equals the missing mass.  So a neutron is basically a proton with a big electron sharing the same space.
Theoretically one electron accelerated to the speed of light would account for the entire mass of the observable universe.   It really doesn't have to be going that fast but the velocity in the k orbital appears to be enough to provide the mass differential.  The "newtron"  can then decay within the newly formed element yielding beta  (fast electron) and a neutrino.  You also get a number of hf photons as electrons make various orbital leaps in the new atom.   Again we see that the mass of the electron in an outer orbital is more than that of an inner orbital.  The photon radiated is the equivalent of the change in velocity of the electron.  In a cavity that excludes the electron cloud a neutron decay event will not be impeded by a bunch of electron collisions.   This increases the probability for electron capture in a second atom.  In the case of deuterium an e capture would result in two neutrons.  The bulk of the deuterium is in a common inertial frame determined by the frequency of the pulses supplied to the cathode.  Now you have the chance of a k capture resulting in two neutrons.  The neutrons decay into protons forming fully ionized helium.  The beta current is doubled which increases the chances of more electron capture.  Each deuterium atom converted to helium beta and a neutrino.  This happens until the beta finally reaches the exit of the microchannel where it looses it's momentum to the space charge outside the cathode itself.  The inelastic collisions result in various wavelength photons which are absorbed by the bulk fluid and anamalous heating effects are the order of the day. This process would require the transmutation of a "seed" element to produce the trigger beta current.  I seriously doubt there is any fusion going on in any cold fusion devices.  I have no idea as to how a light water reactor could possibly work as there isn't any neutron fuel to speak of.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: MarkE on March 13, 2015, 11:56:56 PM
Well, a couple of problems that you have there is that you are relying on the Bohr model for the idea of electrons as satellites of the nucleus, and electrons that have eating disorders.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on March 14, 2015, 02:42:39 AM
Sparks:'I have no idea as to how a light water reactor could possibly work as there isn't any neutron fuel to speak of.'

Its what's in the lightwater that may fuse eg lithium salts.I agree that thers no nuclear fusion going on with lightwater(h2) itself but ther definitely seems to be some types fission going on,not with the h2 but of matter that it happens to contact with eg catalyst matter.the things that makeup the hysteresis loop.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: wattsup on March 14, 2015, 06:10:14 PM
One word I have not heard in these effects but given the physical builds of these LENR devices, one word comes to mind....... cavitation. Where heat is generated inside a confined space, you may expect cavitation. We already have great videos on youtube showing cavitation wheels quickly producing hot water.

Given the ceramic crucibles are porous and could also be leaching some elements, a ceramic sample should be crushed to a powder form and analyzed via atomic adsorption to identify all the elements present. I have not seen that.

What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM) when the TM effect should not even be important at this stage since the energy side is much more crucial to our present motivations. Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.

There may be a relationship between the elements added inside the chamber (or not) and the porous action of the ceramic where the elements could be increasing the available friction threshold and the porous ceramic provides a tremendous increase in exposed surface area that could equal several football fields that would be dissipating the heat and thus providing an OU level event.

wattsup

Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: ramset on March 14, 2015, 07:20:02 PM
Wattsup
 These ceramics apparently form/grow a very tight crystaline seal during cure,
this is what caused the recent Martin Fleischmann memorial project to end with a bang.
 The Ceramic seal did yield ..,however you raise a good point ,there are other things which can happen here when we bring such stress to the recipe ,adding RF or Magnetic fields Or spin etc etc.. could also be an interesting path ?
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: sparks on March 15, 2015, 05:59:17 AM
Well, a couple of problems that you have there is that you are relying on the Bohr model for the idea of electrons as satellites of the nucleus, and electrons that have eating disorders.


     Not really.  I'm relying on the relativistic gain in mass of particles.  The charge staying the same but the bound electron mass increasing.  I'm also relying on a proton as being the ground state as far as nuclear decay goes.  Last I heard the proton isn't expected to decay for 10 to the 23 years whereas neutrons go to hell in 15 minutes.  There is an optimum ratio of protons to neutrons in a stable isotope.   So if you have a stable isotope and screw with this proton neutron ratio why would you not expect a little nuclear reaction?   A stable isotope has gotten pretty use to having a proton a proton and the strong force has packed it like it wants it.   Now with loss of electrostatic repulsion of the proton you have to expect alot of protons inside the "chiral bag" to move about.   Possibly pushing a neutron or two out the bag to decay.  I believe that is why in these lenr experiments you need a high current density.  A high current density increases the chances of bumping electrons into the core.  I'm not saying that all neutrons are protons that capture an electron but there must be a probability of an electron with the right mass charge ratio to occupy the same space at the same time to cancel the proton charge and render that portion of the nucleus electrically and massively neutron like.
 



Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: sparks on March 15, 2015, 06:17:48 AM
One word I have not heard in these effects but given the physical builds of these LENR devices, one word comes to mind....... cavitation. Where heat is generated inside a confined space, you may expect cavitation. We already have great videos on youtube showing cavitation wheels quickly producing hot water.

Given the ceramic crucibles are porous and could also be leaching some elements, a ceramic sample should be crushed to a powder form and analyzed via atomic adsorption to identify all the elements present. I have not seen that.

What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM) when the TM effect should not even be important at this stage since the energy side is much more crucial to our present motivations. Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.

There may be a relationship between the elements added inside the chamber (or not) and the porous action of the ceramic where the elements could be increasing the available friction threshold and the porous ceramic provides a tremendous increase in exposed surface area that could equal several football fields that would be dissipating the heat and thus providing an OU level event.

wattsup


  Hey wattsup :)


     Some of the most energetic processes in the Universe are when stars collapse.   If you got the right stuff on the interface of the bubble you can expect a little electron accelerations and collision.  I think one outfit was loading the palladium lattice using ultrasonics.   Lot of these guys have tritium showing up in their experiments and helium4 so they probably have fusion events going on but so don't the tokamaks. 
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on March 15, 2015, 09:22:29 AM
Wattsup:'Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.'

True.the negentropy of the hysteresisloop itself is a marvel there is no need for transmutation.infact,the hysteresisloop can be made to do actual work for very long times if kept under the 'profitis point' ie.under the point of stress where nuclear disintergration begins to happen.when nuclear disintergration into the lower energy states actually happens it changes the surface properties of the material components and will bring about both physical and nuclear wear and tear.It was rossi who used a totally stable enriched nickel isotope in one of his earlier designs to avoid this wear and tear and keep the loop going for aslong as possible at maximum gains.nickel 62 is totaly stable and will not undergo further collapse ( other elements in contact with it may do so if they're not in their lowest states within the loop)
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on March 15, 2015, 10:46:58 AM
Wattsup:'What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM)'

Very difficult to predict what transmutations will happen anyways unless via trial and error.every element will have its own 'profitis point' in a particular hysteresis loop.the same element's 'profitis point' may even differ from loop to loop.
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: sparks on March 15, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
     I'm just thinking that alot of cold-fusion products are because a pseudo neutron or mini atom type deal is presented to a nucleus or forms in a nucleus.   This causes instabilities inside the nucleus which can promote the pseudo neutron to a real neutron.  The energy needed coming from the strong force rearranging the nucleus.


http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=488
http://www.scientificethics.org/NeutronSynthesisNCA-I.pdf
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on March 17, 2015, 03:54:32 PM
From ecatworld:

'Ian Walker
Hi all
One obvious thing people seem to be missing, is that LENR is a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction. Neutrons produced are not going to be the fast moving high energy Neutrons of Hot Fusion or Fission.
Any Neutrons produced in LENR are far more likely to be absorbed in the matter they are being released in and produce isotopic changes. Or indeed decay before exiting the reactor, any Beta so produced will absorbed in the mass of the fuel itself and produce anomalous heat. It certainly would not have enough energy to escape the reactor.
MFMP and others have reported Gamma bursts at the start of some of reactions, that then disappears. It almost seems analogous to a car backfiring before running steadily.
Kind Regards walker'

This is because of the negentropy of the loop.the negentropy demands to raise the loops energy and absorbs all or most of atomic ejection particle/wave energies before they are even formed.this results in endothermic collapse of atomic matter for already stable elements(high 'profitis points'). elements which are already unstable(low 'profitis points') may shoot higher-energy particles out of the loop and go exothermic
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 14, 2017, 07:22:56 AM
"When a nuclear event occurs within the
province of the bose condinsate... a
condinsate that has accumulated the
required combined excitation energy
shared among the members of its aggregate
members, the weak force no longer
functions as a separate force. In this
condition, the excitation produced
by the nuclear reaction is instantaneously
relaxed into a stable
configuration."

Here's the clasper or pincher-effect that I predicted long ago in my language.the "profitis points"
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 14, 2017, 07:54:27 AM
"In the presence of extra-dimensions, every
particle’s wave-function has
higher harmonics because the extra-
dimensions have to close up, in the
simplest case like circles. The particle’s
wave-functions have to fit into
the extra dimensions, meaning their wave-
length must be an integer fraction
of the radius."

Extension
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 24, 2017, 09:54:00 AM
    ................
.... . . . . . . . .....>Heater
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           ^
           ^
 Nickel powder + dil Cu2+ + dil Pd2+ + dil H+ + testor ion concentrate( Li,Rb, etc).no sulphates may be used
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 24, 2017, 11:26:20 AM
Let's take a closer look above.a sudden rise in temp may create a shock-front here: Ni + 2H+= Ni2+ + H2 + more energy.more energy + 2Ni + Cu2+ + Pd2+ = Ni2+ Cu/Pd + more energy.the Cu2+/Pd2+ acting as catalytic-cocatalysts
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 24, 2017, 02:47:36 PM
Zn + dil Ag+ aq + dil Pd2+ aq + heat


Watch for sudden overheating
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 24, 2017, 02:47:51 PM
Zn + dil Ag+ aq + dil Pd2+ aq + heat


Watch for sudden overheating
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 27, 2017, 09:32:17 AM
Cordifoli
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..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . .......>Heater resistor
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                ^
UraniumH2/BeO/catalyst
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 27, 2017, 09:36:00 AM
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..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . .......>Heater resistor
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                ^
                ^
ThoriumH2/catalyst
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 28, 2017, 10:18:26 AM
Th + polariton cat A= product B + xC + Xergs

Th + polariton cat B= product B + xD + Yergs

Th + polariton cat C= product D + xC + Zergs


Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 28, 2017, 10:41:49 AM
Th + polariton cat D + cocat E = selfsustain G + Bergs

Th + polariton cat E + cocat Z = cocat A + selfsustain E + Nergs

Th + polariton cat F + cocat H = cocat B + selfsustain F + Tergs

Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: franco malgarini on August 28, 2017, 02:45:43 PM
DO IT WELL !!!
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 28, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Hahahaha I take it the world in my fist.I do it for you malgarini hahahahaha
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: franco malgarini on August 28, 2017, 03:10:56 PM
DO IT WITH LOVE !!!
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 28, 2017, 06:45:11 PM
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..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . .......>Heater resistor
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                ^
Uranium carbide/BeO/LiAlH/catalyst
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: franco malgarini on August 28, 2017, 06:56:09 PM
J see you like it !!!  Ha Ha Ha
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 28, 2017, 07:15:13 PM
Hahahaha for your eyes only malgarini
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: franco malgarini on August 28, 2017, 07:17:43 PM
DO IT WITH ARDOR!!!
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 30, 2017, 12:38:42 PM
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Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on August 30, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
"Here is another example. When lithium is
bombarded by a proton, two alpha particles are
produced.
+ --> +
(2)
The sum of the final masses is smaller than the sum
of the initial values, as shown by the following data:
1.00783 u 4.00260 u
7.01600 u 4.00260 u
8.02383 u 8.00520 u
Four electron masses are included on each side. The
decrease in mass is 0.01863 u. The equivalent energy,
(0.01863 u)(931.5 MeV·u-1) = 17.4 MeV, is liberated
and appears as kinetic energy of the two separating
alpha particles.
For positively charged particles such as the proton
and the alpha particle to penetrate nuclei of other
atoms, they must have enough initial kinetic energy
to overcome the potential-energy barrier caused by
the repulsive electrostatic forces. For example, in the
reaction of Eq. 2, if the lithium nucleus has a radius
of the order of 2.3 x 10-15 m, the repulsive potential
energy of the proton (charge +e) and the lithium
nucleus (charge +3e) at this distance is
U = 1/4 0(e)(3e)/r = 3(9.0 x 1 09 N·m2·C-2)(1.6 x 10-19
C)2/2.3 x 10-15 m
= 3.01 x 10-13 J = 1.88 x 106 eV = 1.88 MeV
Even though energy is liberated in this reaction, the
proton must have a minimum or threshold energy
of about 1.9 MeV for the reaction to occur."


Thesholds will alter under hysteresis
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 19, 2017, 10:03:26 AM
"Axil hypothesizes that magnetic monopoles are
created as part of the LENR reaction.
Defkalion claimed to detect a DC peak of 0.6-1.6T
magnetic field at 18cm from the reactor during the
heat triggering phase.
If this was due to the formation of ideal magnetic
monopoles as Axil hypothesizes the inverse square
law 1/R^2 for distance should be valid.
If the monopoles created are small point sources,
even at a fraction of the data claimed by DGT the
magnetic field close to the surface of such
monopoles should be astronomical, making them
analogous to black or white holes. I guess that it
should be enough to cause all sorts of nuclear
distruption."
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: franco malgarini on September 19, 2017, 02:03:01 PM
Einstein's researches have only produced the atomic bomb, so what do you want? You can not stop searching ....
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 20, 2017, 04:03:45 PM
We are searching for eaaaaazzzzzyyy atomic bomb malgarini.green atomplomb.einstein give us clues
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: lancaIV on September 20, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
Einstein's researches have only produced the atomic bomb, so what do you want? You can not stop searching ....

         atomic bomb/pump : "In der Sache Oppenheimer"
                                         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpzPt1Y7dhU
         photoelectric Effekt : Alfred Nobel Award,PHYSICS
         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein

         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/franco_malgarini ?

                            dignitas,angustiae,honor


 
          https://de.scribd.com/doc/63105924/Peter-Weiss-Die-Asthetik-des-Widerstands-Bd-1
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: ramset on September 20, 2017, 05:24:23 PM
profitus
perhaps you should ask the owner of this site if he wants you posting nuclear weapon manufacturing threads here ?

It would be hard to imagine a faster path towards shutting down this forum [illegal weapon discussions].


I know Stefan has been very busy moving house ,and has had little time to watch over what is being discussed here.

you are taking advantage of that[his absence] as well as playing games with "his" life .

maybe start your own Blog or forum for this [registered in Your name not Stefan's.

this forum has NEVER been about weapons and harming innocents ...

this is a slap in the face to our host






 
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 20, 2017, 08:28:04 PM
"this forum has NEVER been about harming innocents ..."

Maybe the forum yes but one or two behind the forum no.tell you what rams I'l tone down from aggressive to passive and just shoot sum pics every now n then   
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 26, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
 The reactor works by loading up carbon
particles with electrons and then the EM field
offsets the balance of these electrons in the
particle and the acoustical resonances re-
distribute the relative positions of these
particles leading to extreme fields between
particles. Dr. Egely refers to the offset charge
in the particle in his paper saying “Due to this
polarisation, an estimated 10^11 V /cm
electric field gradient is formed between the
poles of the particle (1)”. That is 10 trillion
volts per metre.
4. Surface plasmons intensify further the
charge density and the field intensity as a
result
5. Plasma wakefield acceleration allow for
charged particles to be massively accelerated
on the wake of plasma movement - this is a
by product of having plasma ions in an
accelerating field accelerating other
components in the system. It is a secondary
effect of a plasma in motion"

                     <+-
1) Catalyst  0o  substrate
                     >-+
       room temp spillover


2)               <+...-
                     0o
                     -...+>
    Higher temp spillover


3)           <+......-
                  0o
                 -......+>
  Still higher temp spillover

Electric fields begin to blur/overlap?

widom/wisdom?
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 26, 2017, 06:33:19 PM

                     <+-
1) Catalyst  0      gas
                     >-+
       room temp ads/des


2)               <+...-
                     0
                     -...+>
    Higher temp ads/des


3)           <+......-
                  0
                 -......+>
  Still higher temp ads/des

Electric fields begin to blur/overlap?

widom/wisdom?
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 26, 2017, 07:16:48 PM
" unreal concentrations
of free electrons would be needed for the theory's
prediction"

They`re virtually ripped of their f*ckn chairs man.throw me
a fricken boner man.a newpron man lol
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 26, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
Plengo
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 29, 2017, 08:31:01 PM
"electrons can only move/vibrate along
the plane perpendicular to the radius of
the atoms on the surface of matters.
the electrical force/field is oscillating on
the plane and the energy is propagating
at 90 degrees."

Let this burn into
 Your mind if u want to unnerstand nuclear energy 
Title: Re: LENR Roundup
Post by: profitis on September 29, 2017, 08:33:31 PM
"Positive numbers can never equal negative numbers"

Lettit burn