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audiomaker

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Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« on: November 24, 2012, 06:23:48 AM »
Hi All,

This is my first post and thank you for having me.

Being that I don't have time to read the thousands of pages of posts, I'll just start posting and hope it's not all been perpetually heard.

Anyway...  ... so I'm laying in bed 2 nights ago considering Faraday's Paradox when it hits me...

Magnetic fields don't actually exist.

The reason what we call a magnetic field doesn't rotate between two rotating magnets is that there is no field at all, and in fact, nothing actually connected to the magnets. Magnets don't "generate" anything but instead cause a dilution of mass.

What happens is that when these two masses of the right material, with the correct alignments get close together, it attempts to stretch open the time-space fabric....which is "elastic" in nature.

While it is not on/off (or open/closed) like say...a portal (or porthole if you prefer), the mass in our dimension is somewhat like heavy smoke in a room, and between these magnets, the smoke is slightly less dense, or maybe I should say that the aether is slightly more present.

The push on electrons (Lorentz) is not from a magnetic field (because they don't exist), but rather them being resistant to passing into the void (or dimension) that is slightly exposed when the time space fabric is "stretched" or "cleared".

By the way, "stretched" is probably the wrong word.  I should say when our time-space fabric become ever so slightly "transparent", or "permeable".

The theory is that electrons are very resistant to passing into the aether that is being revealed (to a mind boggingly small percentage).

Stronger magnets expose more aether, and therefore the electrons of our dimension are observed as being more resistant as the exposure is more pure.

Perhaps think of it like putting both hands into a large box of BB sized plastic balls as if you were praying...  then separate them.   As you do this, the balls flow around your hand and the space between your hands is still full of balls, but they are slightly less dense.  The space between the less dense balls contains more of the space that electrons refuse to go... perhaps because of the shortage of our dimensional mass required to host them.  Because there is some of our dimensional mass still present, they still pass, but prefer to stay in the copper more solidly footed in our space.

Of course that means that electrons could not exist in pure aether, and with a strong enough "clearing", there would be no mass from our space for electrons to exist, therefore they could not go at all and the perception would be extreme electron motion as they screamed to get to the next available atom in our space.

Bottom line, there is no "field" and rotating mass in our space has no effect as there is nothing to rotate, only the illusion that electrons are moved by resisting entry into the other space.

Oh well.... that's my first post.

Talk Soon...

audiomaker

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Re: Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 06:23:16 AM »
Well about 10 days and over 100 views without a response so...

I'd like to thank those who are thinking about this, for their consideration.

I'd also like to thank those who think this is the most absurd and stupid thing they've ever heard, for exercising restraint by not saying so.


While I was prepared to discuss this theory, now having witnessed how many of the threads on the board deteriorate, I think I'll pass.

I will claim for the record though, after having thought about it further, that "Magnetic fields do not actually exist in our known space".

I shall consider the topic retired at that.

Peace, Love, and Joy!

wings

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Re: Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 09:07:46 AM »
Well about 10 days and over 100 views without a response so...

I'd like to thank those who are thinking about this, for their consideration.

I'd also like to thank those who think this is the most absurd and stupid thing they've ever heard, for exercising restraint by not saying so.


While I was prepared to discuss this theory, now having witnessed how many of the threads on the board deteriorate, I think I'll pass.

I will claim for the record though, after having thought about it further, that "Magnetic fields do not actually exist in our known space".

I shall consider the topic retired at that.

Peace, Love, and Joy!

related Einstein–de Haas effect

http://pages.videotron.com/ceber/on_the_einstein-de_haas_and_barnett_effects.pdf



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%E2%80%93de_Haas_effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_effect


TinselKoala

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Re: Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 11:45:47 PM »
What kind of response did you expect? Most of the people who do work with "magnet motors" and such like here not only believe in "fields" but they even believe in the reality of magnetic "field lines" as something other than a convenient tool for calculation.
There is a long history of controversy between those physicists who believe in "fields" and those who believe in direct action. You are not going to solve the issue here on this forum that is for sure.
Just to bolster your confidence I also do not believe in "fields" of force nor in magnetic "field lines" as anything other than useful conceptual tools. "Spooky action at a distance" is just "fields" by another name.... the only way we know of fields is by their action on probe particles... that is, how a probe particle "wants" to move, in a particular region of space. Fields and field lines have no more reality than the isobars on a weather map or the lines of longitude on a globe of the Earth.

audiomaker

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Re: Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 12:17:55 AM »
What kind of response did you expect?
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Um... one just like that!.... and thanks!

BTW...Good to see you again TK :)


TechStuf

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Re: Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 10:35:15 PM »



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Fields and field lines have no more reality than the isobars on a weather map or the lines of longitude on a globe of the Earth.


Or the twenty thousand million dollars spent on the LHC to find the 'God particle'.  Relativity can be a real hypothetical pain the collective arse.  Especially when so much is expended to search for so little, while ignoring so much more.


The real crux of the matter is...(punny enough), the matter of the Crux.


http://www.discovery.org/a/3059






Gwandau

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Re: Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2012, 03:37:31 AM »
audiomaker,
 
TK is partly correct, I'm afraid, but far from fully correct.
 
As far as am concerned, all our so called forces are but secondary responses to an all encompassing underlying time field accceleration being responsible not only for all observable forces, but matter and space as well.
 
Contemporary science still doesn’t know what electromagnetism is, and fails to give a satisfactory explanation why a magnet creates attraction, and a fully probable theory among other theories is that magnets are not themselves the very origin of their attractive and repulsive qualities, but merely acting as a sort of lens refracting the underlying field, where the appearance of attraction and repulsion is caused by a decrease or increase of space itself, affecting the curvature of space between the poles of the two magnets.
 
If one could create the same magnetic polar unequilibrium as is done in an ordinary electric motor by creating a field vector imbalance in the geometry around a permanent magnet, one would be able to create torque by same means as in an ordinary electric motor.
 
The very heart of the scientfic outlook is to always question everything and never stop trying to gain a better perspective of reality and if neccessary even revise the definition of our so called fundamental physical laws when possible.
 
Never say never.
 
 
TechStuf,
 
great article you linked to, there are a couple of lines in the article that really caught my attention, since it strongly indicates that there actually are scientifically valid extant prof of life on earth being the product of design.Since it does not fit into this thread, I'll post it in the correct one.
 
Cheers,
 
Gwandau
 

audiomaker

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Re: Faraday's Paradox, magnetism, and my first Post...
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2012, 08:10:10 PM »
audiomaker,
 
 
As far as am concerned, all our so called forces are but secondary responses to an all encompassing underlying time field accceleration being responsible not only for all observable forces, but matter and space as well.
 
Contemporary science still doesn’t know what electromagnetism is, and fails to give a satisfactory explanation why a magnet creates attraction, and a fully probable theory among other theories is that magnets are not themselves the very origin of their attractive and repulsive qualities, but merely acting as a sort of lens refracting the underlying field, where the appearance of attraction and repulsion is caused by a decrease or increase of space itself, affecting the curvature of space between the poles of the two magnets.
 
<snip>

 
Gwandau

Yes, that is pretty much what I was trying to say.  I suppose there are numerous variations of what I was calling "exposure", or "dilution of matter".  The lens example is an interesting one...bringing the other "layer" of space into focus.  Also, one has to define "space", and I think we are talking about the "space" that exists between space.
You could call it "The entity which exerts the actions of what is commonly referred to as "magnetic force" on observable mass", although I like TK's "Spooky action at a distance" analogy :)

Anyway, I just had this lightbulb go on.  I guess it's not a new lightbulb.  It's just one of those things where you are thinking about something else and suddenly you go "Oh...wait.. !!!"

It will have a bearing on some of my pursuits in the future, if I choose to pursue them, and for that... I'm happy.

Cheers!