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Author Topic: Free Energy from reception of EM  (Read 6437 times)

Offline aether22

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Free Energy from reception of EM
« on: February 08, 2012, 04:21:15 AM »
Hi, well I have had an interesting thought, it makes so much sense I wonder if I've just cracked it.


What we want is Free Energy, primarily electrical energy, so let's start off by defining what we want.
Electrical energy is given by volts x amps, so if we contribute 5 volts to a circuit we many have just contributed picowatts or gigawatts depending on the current.


So let's imagine we have a DC Generator, let's pull the stator magnets away from the rotor increasing the airgap and reducing the flux reaching the rotor windings.


We will have just dramatically lowered the voltage induced in the rotor.
But what would happen if we supplied the circuit with a high current from another power source?


We could have the generator add the voltage it is providing to a current of 20 amps rather than a mere 200ma.
Assuming the generator doesn't burn one we have just found out how to hugely amplify the power it can generate, but this does not come without a cost.


Generators have a magnetic drag (which is why they are run as motors) and by increasing the current we are increasing the energy taken it takes to turn the generator.


If we add a tuned capacitor we can do this trick with an AC generator too, the current will build up in the tank circuit and the capacitor will keep the phase from being 180 degrees.
We will generate more electrical energy at the expense of increased physical energy that must be put in.


We can do this with a transformer with the tuned capacitor, and this time instead of physical drag you will just find voltage needed to drive current into the primary keeps rising.


BUT, THERE IS ONE EXCEPTION!


What about absorbing not near-field flux as from a transformer, but photons, EM waves that have separated from their source?


Again you have a tank circuit, an inductor and capacitor with super low losses, the EM wave is absorbed by the tank circuit.
Each moment the current oscillating within the tank circuit grows higher and higher.


The presence of the capacitor keeps the phase from going to 180 degrees  which would kill the wave being received, because of this (just as in the other examples above) large currents can build up, of course this is how analog radios work.


Interestingly because you never kill the wave there really is no limit to how much power you could draw from it.



The EM wave has been created with a given unit of energy, but does that mean you can only gain that energy from it?


If more amps are flowing as the wave/photon induces it's voltage, then it induces more energy than if it was in an unexcited state.


So here we seem to have a loophole.


The only catch I can foresee is that either the receiving coil/wire may end up radiating it's self (though seemingly still OU).
And if it does might that wave travel back to the source and try to destroy energy there?
Of course it can't do that, the source could be an astronomical distance away and stopped existing eons ago.


So this seems quite a lot like Don Smith, maybe he was on to something.


What is interesting is that once you have the frequency and phase high with enough current in the tank you don't need really need the power signal to be much more dominant  than the rest of the background, different frequencies will have minor impact of adding and subtracting bits of energy randomly but it requires frequency and phase to be correct for it to have an impact on power.


This is perfect, yes I am aware that I am claiming that you can generate small amounts of true free energy with a crystal radio set.
Some circuits were powerful enough to run a loudspeaker without any batteries or amplification.


Now how to turn this into a practical device? Look into Frank [/font][/size]Prentice's or Tesla's MT.[/size]
At least this seems very engineerable.


It is worth noting that putting energy in to establish the amps is a definite possibility, but you have to get the frequency and phase just right.

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Free Energy from reception of EM
« on: February 08, 2012, 04:21:15 AM »

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Re: Free Energy from reception of EM
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 06:11:32 AM »
So the issue with this concept is that to gain a lot of energy from a low voltage EM wave, you must have very large currents flow.
To have very low currents build up you must have a very low Q.


You will get free energy out, only not much and when you put a load on it must have a high impedance.


On the other hand if this has been done right each received wave increases the current and hence energy subsequent waves contribute to the tank circuit.


Of course as currents and voltages go up so do losses.


So if we want to create greater power we have a few options, one of which is to provide the EM that we are coupling to.


One idea would be to make quite high frequency EM and then funnel it through a waveguide to ensure that every bit of energy we send reaches the receiver.


Another option would be to create a Tesla Coil, but the trick here is that we must capture the energy outside of the nearfield which for low frequencies is somewhat large.


Clearly the important part of this is that the flux has decoupled from it's source which under ideal circumstances makes it harder to impossible that it could impact the transmitter.


Gotta run.

Offline aether22

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Re: Free Energy from reception of EM
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 11:56:06 PM »
The second post should have read: For very high currents you need a very high Q.

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Re: Free Energy from reception of EM
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Re: Free Energy from reception of EM
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 05:26:26 AM »
hi
well this i have been trying for a long time, at times i get close but that is only good in hand grenades & horseshoes....lol
some progress i have made on some generators, i am testing one now that i will call induction hybrid,
i am able to get 120vac around 500rpms 60hz my goal is to make it self running and have usable left over energy                                                                                                                                          maybe by placing magnets outside the housing it has change the field some, it also increases the voltage some
ran this unit for some time, it does get warm and don't know the long term running effects yet. I do believe that induction motors
holds many new applications for generators. Thinking that if i tie this to a flywheel storage system and pulse the drive...... maybe
i can make it self running
don't need 3400rpms anymore 8)

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Re: Free Energy from reception of EM
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 04:46:25 PM »
This may be of interest:
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G'day all!

So...  A few days ago it became apparent that the 3.0 in it's stripped down form was sensitive enough to pick up stray flux/frequency from the power supply.  It even rang up the current in LS's body to light the bulb. 

That's some very good amplification!

This made me reflect on some research I had done on Dr Raymond Phillips, inventor of the cordless phone and other things of note.  He also patented a radiant energy device in 1987 titled "APPARATUS FOR CONVERTING RADIO FREQUENCY ENERGY TO DIRECT CURRENT".  The claim is that this current does not need amplification in order to be useful...

(http://www.google.com/patents/US4685047 & http://www.tillit.info/filer/tillit_nr12.html - Page 4)

Dr Phillips' device operates on the lower end of the 'one substance' spectrum.  He can draw from HF all the way down to ELF.  Arguably, a power supply, presumably oscillating at 60hz, would fit snugly into the lower end of this spectrum as a 'Super Low Frequency'. 

So, can someone with a variac put it close the the bare bones 3.0 circuit, and see what happens?  Any one with a signal generator? It would be interesting to see if it responds to some frequencies over others...  (I don't have either of these, hence, me asking...)

If someone has the equipment to replicate even his antenna we may find interesting results. 

Russ
http://laserhacker.com/forum/index.php?topic=70.285

What should the components be? L, C, antenna shape and size for the configuration stated in the patent(s), in order to receive and resonate with the Schumann Frequency? (ELF around 7.83 Hz) or tap into Telluric currents?
 
Thanks
Mike

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Re: Free Energy from reception of EM
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