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Magluvin

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #270 on: July 31, 2012, 03:12:27 AM »
If using a cw and ccw coil as secondary's you must realize, as you have, that you cannot use a lc circuit on the primary and also that you are creating two different types of electricity that will not run with each other, the cw coil will run back to itself to complete the circuit but will not run with the ccw coil, the opposite of the same is true.
A bucking coil as the primary and two secondary's wound the same cw or ccw will create a dc system and will run from one secondary to the other to complete the circuit.

I am putting together a CW /CCw secondary, with the 2 coils connected in the middle, for 1 of my projects. If the primary is in the middle between the Cw/CCw, the magnetic field of the primary produces opposing voltage polarities on the CW/CCW, where the 2 coils are connected in the middle, the voltage polarity is the same, and the outer ends are the opposite.  The idea of the project for me is  to see if there are any effects by having the 2 coils joined at the middle, and the direction of the 'electrical' fields working in opposite directions next to each other. It is an unusual situation that may be more than just 2 coils canceling each other out.

Making a coil such as this might seem useless if we first think of what might happen if we apply input to it from end to end. Like for example, if we wind a coil single layer 100 turns. then wind another layer over that layer opposing winding, Cw/CCW , if we connect the ends together and apply input, there would be little to no mag field. So why build it? Why do we see that others use it?

Well maybe its has something to do with electrical charge between the 2 series CW/CCW coils that may have some effects that we are not aware of, if we are not looking for them or knowing they are there. 

I have read some articles that claim that one coil produces high amperage, and the other high voltage. It doesnt make much sense as each coil is the same turns and size wire. But I have read several claims.

Another article seems to imply that the coil setup can become a self oscillator, and to use a spark gap to kill it so it doesnt build to high. ;] Gotoluc had what seemed to be a self runner with a toroid core with opposing windings.

Either way, Im giving it a go.

Some versions the output is drawn off of 1 of the coils and the other is left open ended.
One has a cap across one of the coils and the other is applied to a load.

Just things Ive read so far. Also one of the circuits that Stiveps team from the Kapanadze thread presented a while back, utilized an open ended half of a similar CW/CCW coil. But what for?  I guess we gota find out.

Mags

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #271 on: July 31, 2012, 03:38:06 AM »
I am putting together a CW /CCw secondary, with the 2 coils connected in the middle, for 1 of my projects. If the primary is in the middle between the Cw/CCw, the magnetic field of the primary produces opposing voltage polarities on the CW/CCW, where the 2 coils are connected in the middle, the voltage polarity is the same, and the outer ends are the opposite.  The idea of the project for me is  to see if there are any effects by having the 2 coils joined at the middle, and the direction of the 'electrical' fields working in opposite directions next to each other. It is an unusual situation that may be more than just 2 coils canceling each other out.

Making a coil such as this might seem useless if we first think of what might happen if we apply input to it from end to end. Like for example, if we wind a coil single layer 100 turns. then wind another layer over that layer opposing winding, Cw/CCW , if we connect the ends together and apply input, there would be little to no mag field. So why build it? Why do we see that others use it?

Well maybe its has something to do with electrical charge between the 2 series CW/CCW coils that may have some effects that we are not aware of, if we are not looking for them or knowing they are there. 

I have read some articles that claim that one coil produces high amperage, and the other high voltage. It doesnt make much sense as each coil is the same turns and size wire. But I have read several claims.

Another article seems to imply that the coil setup can become a self oscillator, and to use a spark gap to kill it so it doesnt build to high. ;] Gotoluc had what seemed to be a self runner with a toroid core with opposing windings.

Either way, Im giving it a go.

Some versions the output is drawn off of 1 of the coils and the other is left open ended.
One has a cap across one of the coils and the other is applied to a load.

Just things Ive read so far. Also one of the circuits that Stiveps team from the Kapanadze thread presented a while back, utilized an open ended half of a similar CW/CCW coil. But what for?  I guess we gota find out.

Mags


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Magluvin

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #272 on: July 31, 2012, 04:12:10 AM »

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Sooo, I shouldnt build it?

MaGs

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #273 on: July 31, 2012, 04:39:21 AM »
No! just do not connect the ends together but the end of the primary and the beginning of the secondary and serve as a waiter kicker converter and a;sdjhgioesytwierthkwertbdnf cv,msgfierrutiweytrqoeiur13-984549687543685545jttrjgkdfnglsdfgldjhgf;alkhgfdhgf;aoutireuteioutrpiutoitoqieutwoetokalkjdfds
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #274 on: July 31, 2012, 04:41:22 AM »
I believe the homopolar generator is the model that we need to emulate with our pulsed coil system, here is an interesting and simple experiment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njWwyynLrdo&feature=uploademail not mine but notice the polarity's.
Think of the shaft as the primary and each side of the magnet as cw and ccw wound secondary's, this is the way energy flows in a magnetic field we want to seperate the poles.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #275 on: July 31, 2012, 04:52:36 AM »
Using the homopolar configuration as the model, lets look at a normal transformer we have a primary wound cw and a secondary wound ccw so we are using only one side of the homopolar model.
We need to pull energy from both sides, I think Floyd Sweet taped the other pole as well as Leedskalnin.

Magluvin

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #276 on: July 31, 2012, 04:57:59 AM »
No! just do not connect the ends together but the end of the primary and the beginning of the secondary and serve as a waiter kicker converter and a;sdjhgioesytwierthkwertbdnf cv,msgfierrutiweytrqoeiur13-984549687543685545jttrjgkdfnglsdfgldjhgf;alkhgfdhgf;aoutireuteioutrpiutoitoqieutwoetokalkjdfds
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I dont know what a waiter kicker converter is. Looked it up and dont see anything.

And, bdnf cv,msgfierrutiweytrqoeiur13-984549687543685545jttrjgkdfnglsdfgldjhgf;alkhgfdhgf;aoutireuteioutrpiutoitoqieutwoetokalkjdfds
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Doesnt ring a bell either. ;]

MaGs

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #277 on: July 31, 2012, 05:07:40 AM »
Sorry buddy but a little step more, then your there,
your really a good and brilliant person i know you can decipher it.  ;) [size=78%]  [/size]

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #278 on: July 31, 2012, 08:24:59 AM »
Ok Mags CASE CLOSED you opened Pandora Box
 ;D ;D ;D

What is the source of Lenz law ??? OF COURSE ELECTRONS, THEY ARE LEEDSCALNIN MAGNETS
We really have 4 forces in Faraday induction law that's why two situations are described.
2 fields : magnetic and electric free in space and two fields bounded to electrons inside wire, or two EM fields such polarized around conductor because of electrons inside.

Now what is really happening here ? We generate a changing in time magnetic field from electrons in primary, which produce electric field pushing electrons in secondary, they flip and show us ugly magnetic side which acts against electrons in primary pushing them in such direction which maintain balance of forces, the delay is what we use as a current will flow for a moment. Then power source give us more electrons on primary and next pulse is done.
However it will stop working if frequency is too high for a given material because electrons cannot flip so fast and move so fast (or rather pass the wave of current). I believe this is then DC current.

Roughly like that,

P.S. Mags - Tesla invented this as always  :P   DC current induction

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« Reply #279 on: July 31, 2012, 09:37:04 AM »
As per Don Smith's Teaching:- the two coils side by side in CW and CCW fashion and with same number of turns once connected in such a way that say two ends of CW are 1 and 2 and those of CCW are 3 and 4. 2 and 3 are connected making a center tap and 1 and 4 are connected together. We can get maximum output between the two ends then which are 1-4 and 2-3. And this happens only and only when the coil is in resonance state. At rest of the freqs both the fields will cancel each other. Dave45 gave a very good hint to avoid these cancellation effects and the only solution is resonance through a caduceus coil. Caduceus coil has weird magnetic properties and the new field which is produced is scalar in nature often called Zem field. It has electrogravitic properties once pulsed in the range of micro-wavelength.

Here in schematic the Pri is supoosed to be fed through a train of pulses from 0v to +V. Duty cycle 50% and freq has to be the resonant freq found separately for LC pri and LC sec using a function generator and an Oscilloscope.
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Ghazanfar Ali

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #280 on: July 31, 2012, 01:52:19 PM »
We are so close, we must realize the magnetic field is bipolar, asymmetrical and we have to use both.
I think it can be done with coils, but I really feel the answer is in ice, everyone has read the passage in Job and the Lord said the answer is withheld until its time.
I have played with it some and found it can be structured with a magnetic field and can conduct electricity if structured, I also feel once structured its a superconductor.
I dont think we have figured out how ice produces a charge in a thunderstorm im not sure but I have a suspicion ozone (high oxygen content) is playing a roll here. 
This is the area Im going to work in for now, if its time then its time

His Word is eternal
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« Reply #281 on: July 31, 2012, 02:04:31 PM »
Think about it if structured, Zero resistance
They say that one side is cold, whatever you pull off one side is mirrored on the other side.
Look at a crystal radio the crystal is only receptive to one angular direction, both are found in nature but only the cw angular direction is harvested for radio's
They say the ice moves vertical through the thunderstorm that means its also cutting the magnetic field lines of our giant magnet we live on.
Iv been very busy with work here lately but I will get back to it soon.
take care
dave

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #282 on: July 31, 2012, 02:44:57 PM »
Mags
For your dedication above and beyond the call of Duty
Dad wants you to have the "Golden Tolerance " award !!
 
Your perceverance is Astounding!!
 
Teetsla, Dad has something for you Too !!
A "spanking" !!
 
For behavior above and beyond the call of Abuse ,a whole new realm of "Creepy Bad guy".
 
Your are with out doubt the Biggest 3$f$%@ H@&^$%t& $ihkjc$%o (Biggest3$f$745%@@&^$%t&0086$ihkjc$%o) on the block!!
 
 
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« Reply #283 on: July 31, 2012, 04:38:47 PM »
@Ramset
I know Mr Ramset from Planet X speaking a non human language tries to communicate with intelligent beings from this planet. But unfortunately he and his a few sta-rship crew members are getting nothing from this thread for which I really feel sad and pity for them. They had a hope to cash the ideas of others which has been shattered. Freebies Seekers get nothing. One has to use his upper chamber by himself :D

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« Reply #284 on: July 31, 2012, 05:01:04 PM »
@All
Let me clear a bunch of group, that this website has a feature of messaging privately to good and hardworking members of overunity.com And the posts of diagrams etc which I show here are for those with whom I am working through private messages. The reason of discontinuity to sequence in my posts is obvious for those who are not with me in my research team and emerging for the first time in my thread. And that is the pain they feel and post rubbish here. Get hold of someone very very stupid guy who will present his brain to u in a plate for stealing his ideas. All those with whom I share my ideas are putting in there effort in this field and I am highly obliged to them. They helped me a lot. I again request the administrator to keep a notice to such pathetic posts, coz this rubbish was not there a few months ago. But I cant do nothing if a sweeper gets registered with this forum and starts writing rubbish coz it is in his profession to play in rubbish and heap. If someone has become a hero member by increasing his number of posts, it doesn't mean that he is the only one Hero over here. So please do not disgrace others and yourself by posting rubbish coz then there is no difference between u and an immature Skunk.
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Ghazanfar Ali