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Author Topic: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy  (Read 184268 times)

Offline AbbaRue

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #195 on: February 27, 2012, 12:54:40 PM »
I didn't use light bulbs in the simulation, I used a 575 Ohm resistor.   
I just wrote 8 light bulbs there in the text to represent what could be used as a high voltage load. 
To see the wave form and other outputs, just enter the drawing into the simulator here:

  http://www.falstad.com/circuit/ 

The whole purpose of this example was just to show that simulators based on math can be fooled. 
A circuit needs to be built in the real world to check it's validity.   
When I tried building this circuit I didn't get anything close to OU out of it. 
But I wanted to know if those other simulators you are using give similar results. 
It's a way to see if they can be fooled as well.   


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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #196 on: February 27, 2012, 01:54:47 PM »
I didn't use light bulbs in the simulation, I used a 575 Ohm resistor.   
I just wrote 8 light bulbs there in the text to represent what could be used as a high voltage load. 
To see the wave form and other outputs, just enter the drawing into the simulator here:

  http://www.falstad.com/circuit/ 

The whole purpose of this example was just to show that simulators based on math can be fooled. 
A circuit needs to be built in the real world to check it's validity.   
When I tried building this circuit I didn't get anything close to OU out of it. 
But I wanted to know if those other simulators you are using give similar results. 
It's a way to see if they can be fooled as well.

How did you calculate the power?

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #197 on: February 27, 2012, 04:47:48 PM »
Yes, simulators can provide erroneous results, but remember it is THE USER who is inputting the data, and the program is providing results based on the inputs. So garbage in, garbage out.

Also, it may be premature to state that the results are erroneous, without seeing how the results for Pin and Pout were obtained.

If you'd kindly elaborate on that we can then determine where the problem is.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #197 on: February 27, 2012, 04:47:48 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #198 on: February 27, 2012, 05:30:54 PM »
Here is a circuit I made with Circuit Simulator v1.5n

http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

It puts out 1600W from only 28 watts input.
Test this in these other simulators and see if you get these results as well.

If you create a circuit you can always go to file/export and post the code then anyone can go to file/import and see exactly what you did.

$ 1 5.0E-6 10.20027730826997 50 5.0 43
r 192 96 400 96 0 10.0
s 400 96 464 96 0 1 false
w 192 96 192 368 0
c 192 368 400 368 0 1.4999999999999999E-5 -4.70985115271391
l 400 96 400 368 0 1.0 0.02389824292666378
v 464 368 464 96 0 0 40.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
r 400 368 464 368 0 100.0
o 4 64 0 35 20.0 0.05 0 -1
o 3 64 0 35 20.0 0.05 1 -1
o 0 64 0 35 0.625 0.05 2 -1
h 1 4 3

This sim is fun to play with as you don't fry parts but there are a lot of things it does not take into account.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #199 on: February 27, 2012, 11:35:22 PM »
$ 1 5.0E-6 1.0312258501325766 50 5.0 50
165 304 192 336 192 2 0.0
w 368 160 272 160 0
w 304 224 272 224 0
w 304 288 272 288 0
w 304 320 272 320 0
w 272 288 272 320 0
r 272 160 272 224 0 10000.0
r 272 224 272 288 0 10000.0
c 272 320 272 416 0 1.2000000000000002E-7 4.3185904689491865
g 272 416 272 432 0
r 432 256 544 256 0 435.0
t 544 256 608 256 0 1 -12.99999999997825 2.167999999950509E-11 100.0
r 608 272 608 400 0 1.4
r 720 240 720 400 0 575.0
w 608 240 720 240 0
l 608 240 608 160 0 0.0050 -0.022608695652273914
w 368 160 608 160 0
s 608 160 720 160 0 0 false
v 736 160 720 160 0 0 40.0 13.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
g 736 160 736 208 0
g 720 400 720 432 0
g 608 400 608 432 0
o 10 64 0 35 7.62939453125E-5 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 15 64 0 35 7.62939453125E-5 0.1 1 -1
o 13 64 0 35 20.0 0.1 2 -1



 :-[   Well it is supposed to be?

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #199 on: February 27, 2012, 11:35:22 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #200 on: February 28, 2012, 09:56:07 PM »
Here is the text file for the simulator.


$ 1 5.0E-6 6.450009306485578 64 7.0 50
165 368 288 384 288 0 13.0
w 368 320 336 320 0
r 336 320 336 384 0 10000.0
w 336 384 368 384 0
w 336 384 336 416 0
w 336 416 368 416 0
c 336 416 336 480 0 1.2E-7 4.8195399334074835
g 336 480 336 496 0
r 336 320 336 256 0 10000.0
w 336 256 432 256 0
l 608 256 608 336 0 0.0050 0.38279558642927525
w 608 336 704 336 0
r 704 336 704 432 0 575.0
g 608 432 608 464 0
g 704 432 704 464 0
v 688 304 688 256 0 0 40.0 13.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
g 688 304 688 320 0
s 608 256 688 256 0 0 false
w 432 256 608 256 1
x 715 412 793 415 0 12 Load 2x 100W
x 716 425 821 428 0 12 lightbulbs in series
x 695 272 732 276 0 14 + 13V
w 544 352 560 352 0
t 560 352 608 352 0 1 0.6709557540387573 0.7273222594775242 100.0
r 496 352 544 352 0 435.0
r 608 368 608 432 0 1.4
o 6 32 0 43 10.0 0.0015625 0 -1
o 15 64 1 35 40.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
o 12 64 1 35 2560.0 9.765625E-5 2 -1
o 12 64 0 35 1280.0 3.2 3 -1
o 22 64 0 33 2.5 0.05 4 -1



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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #201 on: February 28, 2012, 11:05:50 PM »
@JacaP30
Your posted circuit has no output coming from the 555 timer to the Transistor.
The latest version of the simulator have added the RST pin to the 555 timer.
This pin has to be connected to the Positive input to set it high for the 555 timer to work.
When I designed this circuit they didn't have the RST pin included as you can see if you copy and paste my text. 


@poynt99
I didn't calculate the power input or output, the simulator does that for you. 
Clicking on the 575 Ohm resistor select "View in Scope" and select "Show Power Consumed" 
It reads 1.61 kW. 
And the 13V input reads 27.9 W which can also be calculated by 13V x 2.15A across the switch. 


@All
Perhaps the simulator isn't really in error.   
If you look at the output scope waveforms, you can see they are very short pulses with large spaces between.
The scope is reading the peak of the pulses.   
But the spaces between pulses indicated that time is exchanged for voltage increase,
so it all works out even in the end.
28W of input over time is being released as a 1600W pulse.


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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #201 on: February 28, 2012, 11:05:50 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #202 on: February 28, 2012, 11:44:58 PM »
well, it's like charging cap and then ring down in tank circuit  :P energy in cap is low but oscillations in tank takes long to diminish. all is fine this is RESONANCE POWER and works with VERY STABLE LOAD

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #203 on: February 28, 2012, 11:49:39 PM »
$ 1 5.0E-6 37.11724081536377 47 7.0 50
165 160 128 176 128 0 0.0
w 160 160 128 160 0
r 128 160 128 224 0 13800.0
w 128 224 160 224 0
w 128 224 128 256 0
w 128 256 160 256 0
c 128 256 128 320 2 8.16E-8 7.331555589896209
g 128 320 128 336 0
r 128 160 128 96 0 5200.0
w 128 96 224 96 0
l 400 96 400 176 2 0.004889999999999999 0.36718631157293774
w 400 176 496 176 0
g 400 272 400 304 0
g 496 272 496 304 0
v 480 144 480 96 0 0 40.0 13.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
g 480 144 480 160 0
w 224 96 400 96 1
x 487 112 524 116 0 14 + 13V
w 336 192 352 192 0
t 352 192 400 192 0 1 -26.640385884920914 1.939999999970189E-11 100.0
r 288 192 336 192 0 388.0
181 496 176 496 272 0 661.6251692927772 100.0 120.0 0.4 0.4
w 400 208 400 272 0
w 400 96 480 96 0
o 6 32 0 299 10.0 7.8125E-4 0 -1
o 14 64 1 299 80.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
o 21 64 0 35 320.0 3.2 2 -1
o 21 64 1 35 640.0 9.765625E-5 3 -1


Why not light?   ;)

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #203 on: February 28, 2012, 11:49:39 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #204 on: February 29, 2012, 03:46:52 PM »
$ 1 5.0E-6 37.11724081536377 47 7.0 50
165 160 128 176 128 0 0.0
w 160 160 128 160 0
r 128 160 128 224 0 13800.0
w 128 224 160 224 0
w 128 224 128 256 0
w 128 256 160 256 0
c 128 256 128 320 2 8.16E-8 7.331555589896209
g 128 320 128 336 0
r 128 160 128 96 0 5200.0
w 128 96 224 96 0
l 400 96 400 176 2 0.004889999999999999 0.36718631157293774
w 400 176 496 176 0
g 400 272 400 304 0
g 496 272 496 304 0
v 480 144 480 96 0 0 40.0 13.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
g 480 144 480 160 0
w 224 96 400 96 1
x 487 112 524 116 0 14 + 13V
w 336 192 352 192 0
t 352 192 400 192 0 1 -26.640385884920914 1.939999999970189E-11 100.0
r 288 192 336 192 0 388.0
181 496 176 496 272 0 661.6251692927772 100.0 120.0 0.4 0.4
w 400 208 400 272 0
w 400 96 480 96 0
o 6 32 0 299 10.0 7.8125E-4 0 -1
o 14 64 1 299 80.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
o 21 64 0 35 320.0 3.2 2 -1
o 21 64 1 35 640.0 9.765625E-5 3 -1


Why not light?   ;)

Your lamp is at 120 volts and the warmup time is longer than your oscillation try this-

$ 1 5.0E-6 37.11724081536377 47 7.0 50
165 336 192 352 192 0 0.0
w 336 224 304 224 0
r 304 224 304 288 0 13800.0
w 304 288 336 288 0
w 304 288 304 320 0
w 304 320 336 320 0
c 304 320 304 384 2 8.16E-8 5.243997315932939
g 304 384 304 400 0
r 304 224 304 160 0 5200.0
w 304 160 400 160 0
l 576 160 576 240 2 0.004889999999999999 8.861926450542796
w 576 240 672 240 0
g 576 336 576 368 0
g 672 336 672 368 0
v 656 208 656 160 0 0 40.0 13.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
g 656 208 656 224 0
w 400 160 576 160 1
x 663 176 700 180 0 14 + 13V
w 512 256 528 256 0
t 528 256 576 256 0 1 -16.047444480213848 1.939999999970189E-11 100.0
r 464 256 512 256 0 388.0
181 672 240 672 336 0 254122.78869531673 100.0 12.0 0.0040 0.4
w 576 272 576 336 0
w 576 160 656 160 0
o 6 32 0 299 10.0 7.8125E-4 0 -1
o 14 64 1 299 160.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
o 21 64 0 35 160.0 12.8 2 -1

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #205 on: March 01, 2012, 08:58:44 PM »
About "calculating the input power":
www.rexresearch.com/kanarev2/kanarevpulsemtr.htm    "PULSE POWER" 
the difference between f. e. pulse power  max 15KW and pulse power average 144W and real power input 1,4W  !

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #205 on: March 01, 2012, 08:58:44 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #206 on: March 03, 2012, 06:55:23 PM »
I don't want to be that pushy annoying guy. But what happened Ali?

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #207 on: March 03, 2012, 07:34:10 PM »
I wonder the same? I'm trying to be as delicate as I can. Does he having second thoughts about his invention!!...   ;)

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #208 on: March 03, 2012, 07:47:08 PM »
Too much paranormal effect last day, Alien or MIB take him down...   :o


Seriously, it's very curious, that a guy post a FE circuit, make extraordinary claims and disappear like this...

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #209 on: March 03, 2012, 08:25:28 PM »
Seriously, it's very curious, that a guy post a FE circuit, make extraordinary claims and disappear like this...

Not actually, that happens a lot in these circles. And they don't disappear because the MIBs got them.

 

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