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Author Topic: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy  (Read 193729 times)

Offline Ghazanfar_Ali

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #165 on: February 14, 2012, 07:21:40 AM »
@duff
Ok friend. Have u catered for load resistance. he capacitor in your cct discharges soon u connect the load. I think your load is less than 150 Ohms. Try to check the resistance of the bulb and add some resistance in series so that the load should be equal or greater than 150 Ohms. I tested using two bulbs of 100W in parallel and placing this parallel pair in series with another 100W bulb. Voltage rating of each bulb was 120 Volts. Load resistance is very much important in making the 4700uF Cap to recharge again and again.
Best of Luck

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #166 on: February 14, 2012, 12:53:27 PM »
@EMdevices
Ref. Schematic V1.x by Ali G.: (basically same as yours)
Yes, power from the drive is transfered, but very little

Without having done any simulation yet my self -
you may watch the Gate-Drain power with a sim.
 
Data for IRFP 260's Qgd charge is 110 nano coulomb (later versions have even less
charge) at 10V gate drive, which means average Igd for every other 0.5 mS would be
0.22 mA (the 150 Ohm load will dump this small charge in due time) Without doing
the full complex-impedance calc. - the average continuous signal gen. transfer to
the load from all three MOSFETs combined should then be less than 3.3mW


Now what about the opposite - loss from the load side to the gate/signal port?

Not really, looking at the charge transfers involved according to data sheets -
The scope picture shows 200V almost sine shaped for 0.32 of the time -
17.6mA average will be 'lost' to the gate in 0.125 mS, but will be recovered
into the load on the falling end of the half sine. Effectively then the internal
virtual capacitor is connected between load and reference(ground)while signal gen.
is low. So the energy here is just cycled back and used in the load.

Then the conclusion is that insignificant energy would be supplied from, or
lost to the driving circuit 'IF' say 42W average is dissipated in the load.
(looking at the scope sim-picture, shows aprox. 0.7x200x200x0.32 / 150 ~ 42W
 continuous average power)

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #167 on: February 14, 2012, 02:08:31 PM »
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@DuffThumbs up.I will suggest, just give it a try by removing 1mH in series with sig gen to ground and place a 1H inductor in series after 4700uF cap to ground. and see the strange effect. I told u this circuit is really a weird one once it started running by itself on my table. But it is definitely producing harmful radiation also. My two external HDDs were wiped off which were placed 5 meters away from the toroid. If u feel something strange later while walking or working on laptop, some off center visions, don't panic. Its just effecting your bio energy field. To be at safer side I prefer just to use some Al shield box . I am not a psychopath but strange events have been happening since then I conducted this experiment and I am astonished why it is so? Am I fiddling with secrets of nature?


You're on the good side: paranormal effect appears when your LC is self running OU
Read the whole Rotoverter Theory at EVGray Group (especially "Hector Post Volume 1 to 6") It's the "Bible" of the LCR OU transformation), a certain Hector Perez have experienced while working with high Q resonator (in his motor and transformer) these paranormal phenomena, which is in correlation with OU energy transformation...


1) High EMF pulse that fry everything around (up to miles) with big transformer.
2) Time space distortion (Time travel)...
3) Antigavity.
4) Weird effect like Philadelphia experiment...
5) The device cool down like a VTA...
6) Disease and disturbing bio field (try a healing frequency like 528 Hz) (Love and DNA repair...)
All those phenomena are side effect of energy transformation, tapping into infinite source of Nature itself...


Hector have UFO visit (Paranormal anomalies are instant detected light year away by UFO...)
MIB encounter (not friend)...


If your effect that your describe here is real, beware experiment carefully with high Q OU LCR, self-looping can be dangerous if not controlled...
High Q LC resonator are not TOY, you tap directly into the wheel-work of Nature like Tesla said...


I work on a kind of MRA (Magnetic Resonant Amplifier) which is similar to the Aligen (a self-looped, self-running, high Q resonator... )
I hope to reproduce those effect if I can get OU and loop it (Paranormal effect appear when the device is OU and self-looped...) It will be a good conformation of Hector Energy Transformation Theory...


Beware again, high Q resonator are not TOY...


Just my 2 cents on this.
SRM.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #167 on: February 14, 2012, 02:08:31 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #168 on: February 14, 2012, 04:38:37 PM »
@duff
Ok friend. Have u catered for load resistance. he capacitor in your cct discharges soon u connect the load. I think your load is less than 150 Ohms. Try to check the resistance of the bulb and add some resistance in series so that the load should be equal or greater than 150 Ohms. I tested using two bulbs of 100W in parallel and placing this parallel pair in series with another 100W bulb. Voltage rating of each bulb was 120 Volts. Load resistance is very much important in making the 4700uF Cap to recharge again and again.
Best of Luck

Ali,

I am still waiting on parts (should be here today) however I do have 1 IRF260MPBF which I have been using and running  more tests.

As I'm sure your aware light bulbs change resistance with current/heat, so I've removed the 100W bulb and have been  testing with a 150 ohm resistive load.  It is not a carbon resistor and has about 173uH of inductance but it  I've run your simulation adding the inductance and it still appears to run OK.

Still nothing significant to report but again I'm only using the single MOSFET.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #169 on: February 15, 2012, 07:13:45 PM »
Ali,

My circuit is fully functional again but I am still unable to run from capacitor.
Maybe I need to change my inductor to an toroid.

You stated: "I used a ready made based on ferrite toroid."

Can you provide a link to the product you used?

Thanks


Edit: Did you us an earth ground?
I have tried it both ways and noted no difference.

What happens if you do not connect a load to the circuit?
Will the voltage or current continue to build?
« Last Edit: February 15, 2012, 10:11:02 PM by duff »

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #170 on: February 15, 2012, 10:25:31 PM »
@SchubertReijiMaigoDont make me scared friend :O.
I am already experiencing lot of problems since the day I powered on my v1.1. Lost two of my external HDDs. Headache, off center visions and today as I am away from my home station in mid of a desert. I was sitting in my corrimax room beside my study table and I saw my whole table moving in zig zag fashion I cant explain but in simple words it was seen waving, just like u see an object through some heat or fire waving . Once I touched it, it was all stopped. I first thought that my eyesight is getting weaker but its not the case. I am a bit confused whether to continue my work or not. And you r 100% right that its really not a toy. It creates a pulse in time domain which flows to and fro generating time waves. I know what John Von Newman and Nicola Tesla did in Philadelphia project. The freq was around 672 Hz and due to Earths Bio Rhythm cycle of 20 years. they created a resonant effect  in August 1943 to push time waves in 63, 83 and 2003. The harmonics are still continued in temporal dimension where x,y and z dimensions are constant (The geo-coordinates where Eldridge was anchored).   

WELL THIS THREAD IS NOT TO DISCUSS QUANTUM PHYSICS so I wind up my discussion.
But this device has its weird effects and I have no doubts in it.
Regards
Ghazanfar Ali

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #171 on: February 15, 2012, 10:47:09 PM »
@duff
I did not buy the inductor. I took it out from my old UPS power circuit. Just reduced a few turns on it to make it 337uH. I wrote about the dimensions in other thread. Please check back last few pages and u will get the detail. Tell me how much is the power consumption from battery. Isnt it still an OU device if it is run with battery connected in parallel with 4700uF?
Thanks

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #172 on: February 15, 2012, 11:02:20 PM »
Ali,

You did not answer my questions.

 Did you us an earth ground?
I have tried it both ways and noted no difference.

What happens if you do not connect a load to the circuit?
Will the voltage or current continue to build?

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Tell me how much is the power consumption from battery.

2.25A x 25.5V = 57.38W

Perhaps we should wait till you get home and are able to provide a video.

Regards.


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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #173 on: February 15, 2012, 11:07:07 PM »
Isnt it still an OU device if it is run with battery connected in parallel with 4700uF?
Thanks

No.   Your sims have no battery .  ..RED FLAG!!

Ali..did you not say it runs from the cap with only input from dds generator ?

Please clarify your device . This is now looking like a  pitch from a call centre in your country.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #174 on: February 16, 2012, 11:02:52 AM »
@Mannix
I did not deny that my device also runs with the help of a charged cap. I just asked him isnt it still an OU device with running from a bty?
No pitch no call center.



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« Reply #175 on: February 17, 2012, 07:33:46 AM »
Ali,

I apolagize for the poor reference of mine

The trouble with refering to batteries is that their chemistry changes and confuses so many people  even the mention of batteries gets my attention in a negative way .
The vast majority of people have no real  idea or experience of how batteries  rise in voltage with load and so many ignorant claims are made along those lines .

Your device on the other hand is designed to sustain of a capacitor  ..absolute proof .. no sums required and i was upset that a battery would play any part other than the drive .There is no issue with the drive because it is easy to use series resistance there

I have buit a version with 3mm wire and a 6" torroid heavy guage  short connections ..and my stack of 4 irfp264 fried instantly with 40volts in the cap.
interesting to say the least .





All , Its is best to stay with multisim in this thread if possible ..yes we know it should not work but it will at least give everybody a cohesive  reference point

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #176 on: February 17, 2012, 04:44:22 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #177 on: February 18, 2012, 10:46:17 PM »
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I have buit a version with 3mm wire and a 6" torroid heavy guage  short connections ..and my stack of 4 irfp264 fried instantly with 40volts in the cap.  interesting to say the least .
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Hi Lindsay,

I wondered on your fried 4 MOSFETs and decided to do some calculations.  I assumed 3 meter wire length for your coil from the 3mm wire, it may have 0.00712 Ohm DC resistance  (I used this calculator here: http://chemandy.com/calculators/round-wire-resistance-calculator.htm )

For the MOSFETs ON resistance, they have 0.075 Ohm each (from data sheet), 4 in parallel may have had 0.01875 Ohm (assuming the 4 FETs were equal).

Now the inner resistance of your 4700uF capacitor i.e. its ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) value what we are also interested in and here is a link ( http://kakopa.com/ESR_meter/ )  where there is a table for the ESRs for different capacitor values, I chose the normal value: 0.026 Ohm what I rigorously rounded up to 0.03 Ohm to account for all your short connections too. 

Now the approximate peak current taken from the capacitor (charged to 40V) is I=40/(0.03+0.01875+0.00712)=40/0.05587=715.94 Amper.  This is too much for the MOSFETs because even if I consider their absolute maximum pulsed drain current of 4 times 150A (assuming fully equal ON resistances--unlikely they had), it would give 600 Amper (data sheet is here: http://www.vishay.com/docs/91217/91217.pdf where the 150A pulsed drain current rating is tied to pulse duty cycle, see Fig. 11).

If you had less than 3m long 3mm wire than the peak current could have been higher than 715A.  And at current this high the coil core could have been saturated too (as Duff hinted at) so the coil's inductive reactance at the switch ON moment was way less than 376uH,  I mean very little LC tank reactance against the increasing current to be able to do useful current limit.

IF your 4700uF capacitor is an older type than its ESR value may be higher than what I considered, then the total current is proportionally less (say ESR=0.05 Ohm instead of 0.03 Ohm, then the peak current would be I=527.2 Amper, still a huge value to destroy the lowest ON value MOSFET first.   Indeed your failed test brought interesting learning.

Gyula

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #178 on: February 18, 2012, 11:26:57 PM »
Hi Lindsay,

I wondered on your fried 4 MOSFETs and decided to do some calculations.  I assumed 3 meter wire length for your coil from the 3mm wire, it may have 0.00712 Ohm DC resistance  (I used this calculator here: http://chemandy.com/calculators/round-wire-resistance-calculator.htm )

For the MOSFETs ON resistance, they have 0.075 Ohm each (from data sheet), 4 in parallel may have had 0.01875 Ohm (assuming the 4 FETs were equal).

Now the inner resistance of your 4700uF capacitor i.e. its ESR (Equivalent Series Resistance) value what we are also interested in and here is a link ( http://kakopa.com/ESR_meter/ )  where there is a table for the ESRs for different capacitor values, I chose the normal value: 0.026 Ohm what I rigorously rounded up to 0.03 Ohm to account for all your short connections too. 

Now the approximate peak current taken from the capacitor (charged to 40V) is I=40/(0.03+0.01875+0.00712)=40/0.05587=715.94 Amper.  This is too much for the MOSFETs because even if I consider their absolute maximum pulsed drain current of 4 times 150A (assuming fully equal ON resistances--unlikely they had), it would give 600 Amper (data sheet is here: http://www.vishay.com/docs/91217/91217.pdf where the 150A pulsed drain current rating is tied to pulse duty cycle, see Fig. 11).

If you had less than 3m long 3mm wire than the peak current could have been higher than 715A.  And at current this high the coil core could have been saturated too (as Duff hinted at) so the coil's inductive reactance at the switch ON moment was way less than 376uH,  I mean very little LC tank reactance against the increasing current to be able to do useful current limit.

IF your 4700uF capacitor is an older type than its ESR value may be higher than what I considered, then the total current is proportionally less (say ESR=0.05 Ohm instead of 0.03 Ohm, then the peak current would be I=527.2 Amper, still a huge value to destroy the lowest ON value MOSFET first.   Indeed your failed test brought interesting learning.

Gyula

Good analysis you did there.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #179 on: February 19, 2012, 12:10:01 AM »
Hi Lindsay, I thought Ali mentioned wire size used on coil was 18 Avg =  1.024mm diameter wire. Hope this helps. Sorry about the Mosfets.

 

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