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Author Topic: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy  (Read 169860 times)

Offline broli

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2012, 11:35:22 PM »
Looks right to me.

Actually I just noticed that your LC tank is not using a bipolar/nonpolar capacitor. It could blow up :p.

It seem to not matter what mosfet  I used 264's because I have lots of them ..I am about to build this even though I can only think "simulation error "

 My hunch says so too and I trust Ali that he had it working on the bench either way we'll soon find out the truth ;).

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2012, 11:45:11 PM »
It seem to not matter what mosfet  I used 264's because I have lots of them ..I am about to build this even though I can only think "simulation error "
 
 Poynt has mentioned that the inductor needs resistance to be real ..if so then that could explain it
 
 I have enclosed a sim which is more like what I will build . r2 value is critical  but if you switch the drive off and on at different times with the a key you might find it  interesting .
Mannix thanks for your input here and good luck with the test.  I think the zip file you uploaded has been corrupted though.  I downloaded it 3 times now and it's saying it has an error it the packed file.  I also tried extracting with a couple different programs like WinRAR and all report an error or corruption.   Would you please re-upload it?  Tnx.
I can't imagine how great it would be if this really was this simple to pull in some extra energy with a circuit so easy to build.  Even if it needs some fine tuning it would be awesome to have it this simple.  Good luck everyone.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2012, 11:54:50 PM »
Mannix thanks for your input here and good luck with the test.  I think the zip file you uploaded has been corrupted though.  I downloaded it 3 times now and it's saying it has an error it the packed file.  I also tried extracting with a couple different programs like WinRAR and all report an error or corruption.   Would you please re-upload it?  Tnx.
I can't imagine how great it would be if this really was this simple to pull in some extra energy with a circuit so easy to build.  Even if it needs some fine tuning it would be awesome to have it this simple.  Good luck everyone.

I have tested the download and it works ..And I had trouble with a few earlier ones . There is something amiss with this site in some way .

I dont know what it is but I here it is again in rar format

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 12:08:45 AM »
Thanks Mannix.  I agree something is blowing out when it gets here on the site.  I get a lot of errors lately when I post that indicate the forum database is not stable.  That RAR version seems fine.    OOPS I spoke too soon that RAR is still giving me a problem once I try to extract it.  It gets to 99% and says disk read error.  I know my disk is fine.  Darn.  I wonder if Stefan's upload area is full or having trouble too. 

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 12:31:55 AM »
Tried that file on a completely different computer just to be sure nothing was acting up on that computer and downloaded again from the other computer - still corrupted.  Anyone else get a good copy? 

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 12:34:35 AM »
Tried that file on a completely different computer just to be sure nothing was acting up on that computer and downloaded again from the other computer - still corrupted.  Anyone else get a good copy?

Works fine here, anyway here's an alternate:

http://www.mediafire.com/?oxvxpha5dsh6qp6

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 12:40:55 AM »
Regarding the problem downloading the compressed files, I had the same issue with IE9 and Chrome. It was suggested that I try cURL. I got as far as investigating cURL and then thought about changing to the browser on my WebOS HP Touchpad. That solved the problem. If I get a chance tomorrow I'll share all the Multisim .ms11 files from SkyDrive which will allow those having trouble to download more easily and join in. In the mean time it might be worth trying Firefox, Safari or a non-Windows based device if you have one.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 12:54:46 AM »
Thanks broli,  your copy worked.  Cheers

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 01:31:23 AM »
Hi Ali,
so can you please upload some real pictures of your device please ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 01:36:12 AM »
 
@Ghazanfar_Ali
1. What kind of support you expect?
2. Where to transfer the eventual funds to support you? Account number(s)? Address?
3. Maybe you qualify for the prize, see the link:

http://www.overunity.com/overunity-prize/
 


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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2012, 02:14:06 AM »
Ali,

I would  assure you of  generous donations from most people here .................If the real light can be made to stay lit ...even if its a bit dimm.
Even 5 watts  would be a miracle.

back to work!





 

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2012, 03:31:23 AM »
Hi to All here. I'm trying to understand Ali's device and few thing are not clear for me. Always been interested in electronics but life got in the way of doing it. So after I retired I decided to give a go. First other than VOM and ampere meter I don't have any fancy tool in my shop nor the knowledge how to use it... Can read schematic enough to get me in trouble ;D.
I attached schematic created by Ali and modified by Broli that I marked with areas that not clear/confusing to me. Could somebody kindly take look at it and explain in simple terms what I'm looking at?

One question I have where the "antenna" connect to?
Noticed two areas marked "L1" I presume one of them is coil and the other light bulb?
One capacitor (the smaller one) the voltage value is missing, is it not important?

Forgot to ask, Did I got the Mofset labelled OK?
Thanks..

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2012, 07:04:27 AM »
@Ghazanfar_Ali  I think you will find Dr. Steven Jones (PhysicsProf here I believe) who is a former University physics prof. has a reward offered right now of some gold and / or silver coins (real $$ value) for any device that can meet some fairly simple overunity requirements.  You can find info here and a couple other energy forums if you look around.  It does have to meet some minimum requirements and the intent is to keep it open source so all people can benefit if I recall correctly. 

27Bubba I think I can answer at least one question with reasonable certainty.  The two connection points on the left of the diagram are where you would hook up a signal generator or square wave signal input of some sort.  As far as the L1 etc.  One is a coil but the other ones are Light bulbs which he simply abbreviated as L1, L2 and L3 rather than Light or Load 1 etc.  It may have been clearer to label them as resistances or loads.  But it seems clear to me based on the description that is what he intended.  Not sure about any antenna but I see a ground symbol in blue at the bottom if that is what you are referring to.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2012, 07:56:47 AM »
Hi to All here. I'm trying to understand Ali's device and few thing are not clear for me. Always been interested in electronics but life got in the way of doing it. So after I retired I decided to give a go. First other than VOM and ampere meter I don't have any fancy tool in my shop nor the knowledge how to use it... Can read schematic enough to get me in trouble ;D.
I attached schematic created by Ali and modified by Broli that I marked with areas that not clear/confusing to me. Could somebody kindly take look at it and explain in simple terms what I'm looking at?

One question I have where the "antenna" connect to?
Noticed two areas marked "L1" I presume one of them is coil and the other light bulb?
One capacitor (the smaller one) the voltage value is missing, is it not important?

Forgot to ask, Did I got the Mofset labelled OK?
Thanks..

@27Bubba,

No, you labeled the mosfet wrong. Attached is the IRFP260 data sheet that shows the correct pin configuration.

What is described in the Ali circuit is a voltage boost converter. The unloaded resonant frequency of the coil and capacitor
is approx. 2KHz. The 1mS / 0,5mS indicate that the function generator input is 1KHz. What is missing in the
simulation is the power input. The power input is over the 4700uF/50V electrolytic capacitor. Attached is a redraw
of the proposed circuit.

GL.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2012, 08:23:29 AM »
@27Bubba,

No, you labeled the mosfet wrong. Attached is the IRFP260 data sheet that shows the correct pin configuration.

What is described in the Ali circuit is a voltage boost converter. The resonant frequency of the coil and capacitor
is approx. 2KHz. The 1mS / 0,5mS also indicate that the function generator input is 2KHz. What is missing in the
simulation is the power input. The power input is over the 4700uF/50V electrolytic capacitor. Attached is a redraw
of the proposed circuit.

GL.

GL,

The 555 (or function generator) is running at 1KHz,  period is 1ms with .5ms on time.

As you say the tank is resonant at 2KHz but oddly the oscillations are at 1KHz

Included a scope shot from  v1_2.ms11 .

 

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