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Author Topic: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy  (Read 175946 times)

Offline Ghazanfar_Ali

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #120 on: February 08, 2012, 08:36:45 PM »
@0.99

I have already uploaded the ORCAD sim files along with pictures 2 pages back.
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #121 on: February 08, 2012, 08:38:14 PM »
poynt99,  while it may be good to know where the simulator energy is coming from what actual benefit does this have if  simulator's are not going to simulate tapping radiant energy or energy from other unseen or unknown sources as may be the case with the actual circuit here?

Well, the simulation was first done by Ali, then he built the circuit afterwards. At least that is my understanding.

Now, as we've not seen evidence of this circuit actually working on the bench, it is prudent at this time to analyse how the circuit is operating, and IF indeed there is something weird going on in the simulation, OR if there is something being overlooked. There IS a claim that the simulated circuit is exhibiting OU, so the purpose of having a working circuit in ORCAD is so that I may determine if this claim is merited or not.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #122 on: February 08, 2012, 10:33:21 PM »
we will need it working on the bench, because  we are not living in lala land .


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« Reply #122 on: February 08, 2012, 10:33:21 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #123 on: February 08, 2012, 11:23:03 PM »
@0.99

I have already uploaded the ORCAD sim files along with pictures 2 pages back.
Kind Regards
Ghazanfar Ali

Ali,

I know you posted those circuits, but I've already made that circuit work by modifying my own. It was shown not to exhibit OU.

Here is what I am asking for as per my two previous posts:

I'd like to see your ORCAD version where the circuit is similar to the MS circuit, where the FG is NOT adding energy to the capacitor. Are you able to get that working also and upload it?

Thanks,
.99

and

That's great, but we need to see it operating in ORCAD SPICE this same way. Then I'll be able to sort out where the power is coming from.

.99

What I am referring to in this last post is the original Multisim circuit. That circuit does NOT have the FG connected to the Source capacitor.

So again, what I'm asking for is a working ORCAD circuit identical to the original Multisim circuit.

Thanks,
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #124 on: February 08, 2012, 11:25:35 PM »
we will need it working on the bench, because  we are not living in lala land .

I suspect we are all to assume this message was for Ali, correct?

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #125 on: February 09, 2012, 12:25:50 AM »
Well, the simulation was first done by Ali, then he built the circuit afterwards. At least that is my understanding.

Now, as we've not seen evidence of this circuit actually working on the bench, it is prudent at this time to analyse how the circuit is operating, and IF indeed there is something weird going on in the simulation, OR if there is something being overlooked. There IS a claim that the simulated circuit is exhibiting OU, so the purpose of having a working circuit in ORCAD is so that I may determine if this claim is merited or not.

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I realize Ali posted the sims and I have my ideas why he did but does ORCAD or any sim actually have the ability to exhibit OU and on what basis would they exhibit OU unless it's just a glitch in programming?  Are they programmed with theories outside of the mainstream such as radiant energy input?  I doubt they are so I still question what is expected from something that is essentially like a graphing calculator of sorts.  It can't find magic unless magic was programmed into it.    I guess anything that can add to the pool of knowledge on this is good to have but I think for a circuit as easy to build as this that it might be time better spent in building it.   Anyway thanks for your input.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #126 on: February 09, 2012, 01:01:33 AM »
I realize Ali posted the sims and I have my ideas why he did but does ORCAD or any sim actually have the ability to exhibit OU and on what basis would they exhibit OU unless it's just a glitch in programming?  Are they programmed with theories outside of the mainstream such as radiant energy input?  I doubt they are so I still question what is expected from something that is essentially like a graphing calculator of sorts.  It can't find magic unless magic was programmed into it.    I guess anything that can add to the pool of knowledge on this is good to have but I think for a circuit as easy to build as this that it might be time better spent in building it.   Anyway thanks for your input.

You seem to be missing the point.

It is Ali that is making the claim for OU in the simulation, not I, and it is Ali that posted the files so that others could investigate it, which I am doing. Now, you seem to have a problem with my choice to do the simulation, so I would advise you to take your issue up with Ali, not I if you don't mind.

Also, I am aware of two bench replications, and neither of them exhibit anything close to OU.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #127 on: February 09, 2012, 02:25:30 AM »
I think, Ali should ask his boss for a few days of vaccations from his job, go home
and finally upload the video and a few pics, so that we can see, that it is real,
what he is saying ?

Maybe he also used a iron wire coil and has the same excited radioactive decay in
his coil that we just spoke about in the Kapanadze thread and which is probably
the effect for the huge overunity COP factor ?

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #128 on: February 09, 2012, 10:52:34 PM »
Hi guys! I've been fiddling with multisim for two days now and i cannot achieve what Ali did. I built the circuit from scratch many times in multisim 10 and multisim 11 and when i first time run the simulation it gives me an error, then the error is corrected and the circuit runs as expected by the logic - no overunity. I have no idea how Ali's 1.2 version runs withouth stopping and gives huge overunity - i tried to replace all of the components and it still runs, so I think there must be some "secret" parameter that Ali changed and allows the simulation to run overunity.

@Ali
Below I attached my multisim file - can you tell us what is the difference between this and your 1.2 version - why the simulation is different?

...this are my results from multisim 10 and 11 and both follow logic...

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #129 on: February 09, 2012, 11:30:28 PM »
Hi guys! I've been fiddling with multisim for two days now and i cannot achieve what Ali did. I built the circuit from scratch many times in multisim 10 and multisim 11 and when i first time run the simulation it gives me an error, then the error is corrected and the circuit runs as expected by the logic - no overunity. I have no idea how Ali's 1.2 version runs withouth stopping and gives huge overunity - i tried to replace all of the components and it still runs, so I think there must be some "secret" parameter that Ali changed and allows the simulation to run overunity.

@Ali
Below I attached my multisim file - can you tell us what is the difference between this and your 1.2 version - why the simulation is different?

...this are my results from multisim 10 and 11 and both follow logic...


this secret is inside mosfet and in placement and coil wind direction and in some simulation global parameters set to avoid error IMHO
look this is not important if that run for days or just 3 hours it can be not OU but very very efficient resonant circuit at resonance, the essence is it proves OU is possible in the same way the CFL bulbs could produce more light than incandescent filament ! magnetic field is free and so any kind of radio or light rays !!!!

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #130 on: February 09, 2012, 11:32:36 PM »
madddann if you want to dicourage us then rather let it go, this is 2012 not 1990 !
fix you simulation , place mosfets exactly like Ali did

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #130 on: February 09, 2012, 11:32:36 PM »
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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #131 on: February 10, 2012, 01:05:04 AM »
@forest
Electrically, if the circuits are connected the same, it is irrelevant how the drawing appears, it will operate the same.

Same thing goes for inductors, the orientation has no effect, UNLESS you set up an initial condition for it, THEN it does. However, Ali has not made mention of an IC setting for the inductor, so the orientation does not matter in this case.

@maddann
Global settings can and will make a difference, so if you are simulating in MS, download Ali's files and start there.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #132 on: February 10, 2012, 02:10:06 AM »
@forest
I just posted my findings, what is wrong with that? I really hope that in real life the circuit works like claimed by Ali.


@poynt99
I forgot to mention that if I do that, everithing miracolously works  8)



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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #133 on: February 10, 2012, 03:02:35 AM »
Interesting  ???

My suggestion for you would be to take a screen capture of all the settings with the working files loaded, then compare these to the default settings.

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Re: Ghazanfar Ali Generator - Utlilizing trapped energy
« Reply #134 on: February 10, 2012, 07:22:25 AM »
Interesting  ???

My suggestion for you would be to take a screen capture of all the settings with the working files loaded, then compare these to the default settings.

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poynt... would the global temp setting (if memory serves it's usually around 300K) being set to 0 or negative cause this?

 

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