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Author Topic: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action  (Read 11914 times)

Offline Amaterasu

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Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« on: January 27, 2012, 07:27:59 AM »

A petition has been started on for the US Government to release electrogravitics to the public.

Why This Is Important

My early childhood was defined by My father's excitement for His work in electrogravitics, then (1950's) being worked on openly by all major aerospace companies. My father, a CalTech graduate and one of the top electrical engineers at one of these companies, would tell Me about the successes of His experiements (gravity control and overunity (free energy)), and tell Me what the world I would grow up in would look like.

Cars would fly, cities would float, and We would have all the energy We could use.

Then, one night He came home from work late and woke Me up to tell Me We couldn't talk about the flying cars, the floating cities, the free energy anymore. "They want it secret for now."

Since My childhood, I have studied economics, coming to the conclusion (later confirmed by Jeremy Rifkin in His book, Entropy) that all money represented was meaningful energy expended. One can grasp this most easily by considering the first hunter, fisherperson, gatherer, farmer, miner. The stuff They gained/used was free: critters, fish, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seed, sun, soil, rain, ores. It was the meaningful energy expended that gave "value" to the stuff: the killing, fishing, picking, tilling, weeding, harvesting, mining, transporting.

Add abundantly what money represents - energy - and the need for money (and the control of others it affords) in all its forms (barter, trade, work exchange, coin, bills, electronic funds...) will dissipate and what is left is free.

Add robots to do all the necessary jobs no One wants to do to free energy, and Humans will be freed to follow Their bliss - within the three Laws:

Do not willfully hurt or kill another Being
Do not willfully take or damage another Being's property
Do not willfully defraud another Being

(A Being (cap the "B") is sentient, sapient; animals are beings)

Waste would be virtually eliminated: supermarkets presently throw out hundreds of thousands of tons of food a month! Distributing by need and not profit will end this waste. Products would be made to last instead of being designed to break so as to ensure future sales. Theft-protecting packaging would be unnecessary. And so on.

Organic farming would be prized and GMO (genetically modified organisms) would be eliminated.

Motive for war will be virtually eliminated. With no profit motive for war suppliers and "infrastructure rebuilders," wars will not be instigated to ensure profits.

Poverty will not exist.

Hunger will be eliminated.

Education (at all levels) will be free for all.

Replace the work "ethic" (a slave's ethic: enrich the rich with Your Human energy) with a Betterment Ethic and the Humans who better things will be paid in appreciation, status, name-recognition and Self-satisfaction, the new "coin."

Create a central website where problems can be brought up locally and People can “vote” to bump a problem up, down, show apathy by not voting, and chime in with solutions (which can be cheered and booed). Issues will drop off after the original poster indicates that the problem has been resolved or withdrawn, or there has been no activity after, say, six months (that is not set in stone). Social responsibility will be defined as spending 15 minutes a day examining issues on this site.

Also, issues with some set number of bumps up will be considered issues that need a wider awareness and go to regional sections. From there, continental, perhaps, and then global, as more are needed to be involved in solving the problem. Problems will beget the awareness to solve them.

Without money as a motive, problems will be solved more creatively, directly, harmoniously, and within the three Laws.

Leaders of the moment will emerge from this to solve problems as they arise.

Open-source all public works programming. This allows for many to make suggestions for betterment, and ensures that no one will create outside the three Laws. It also eliminates “back doors,” and other surreptitious software segments that bog down the clean functioning of the program. Without money as a motive, programmers will be proud to offer Their work for scrutinization and use, openly and freely. Status will be gained for creating the best programs.

Though this will not create a utopia, it will be vastly better than what We now have, in this scarcity-defined system, on this planet.

Offline Amaterasu

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 04:05:30 AM »
Really?  There is no One interested in discussing this?


Offline tak22

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 08:57:18 AM »

Electrogravitics – A Simplified Description

Amaterasu Solar
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 Electrogravitics. This technology was being developed and tested in all major aerospace companies in the 1950s.  Martin, Convair, Lear, Sperry, Raytheon, and many others all were eagerly studying electrogravitics.  But in 1959 or early 1960, the technology became highly classified and the path to energy abundance was stymied.  Here is a basic description of electrogravitics:

First, One has to understand that the model offered by Einstein is flawed . . . there are other models.

The model, which I say is a far better one than relativity, is subquantum kinetics (SQK). Its developer, Dr. Paul A. LaViolette (an interesting character, to say the least), started with chemical kinetics (as above, so below?) and came up with SQK after becoming very concerned by its gravitational predictions. He had not heard of the Biefeld-Brown Effect, nor the work of T. Townsend Brown. He struggled with these predictions until he encountered Brown's work, discovering that SQK predicted exactly what Brown was showing experimentally.

Why is SQK better than relativity?

It takes no element on faith: Einstein's relativity is based on the faith that matter somehow "bends" space-time. Nowhere does he explain (or even try to) how or why this might be. One just has to take it on faith.

It explains things without the need for "renormalization;" relativity ends in infinities without this mathematical fudge.

It integrates EM with gravity. Einstein himself died still trying to do so.

And it still predicts things like the lensing of light, the apparent time dilation, and all other predictions of relativity, plus more -- all of which are testable (string theory is 100% untestable).

In fact, many of the mysteries of Einsteinian mathematics are predicted in SQK.

I recommend reading a book called Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, by Dr. LaViolette, for more on the Biefeld-Brown Effect, Brown's work, electrogravitics, SQK, and more.

In SQK, positively charged particles have a positive gravity potential "well."  (Positive particles have positive gravity.) Negatively charged particles have a negative gravity potential "hill."  (Negative particles have negative gravity.)  The positive particle's "well" is just the smallest fraction bigger than the negative "hill," accounting for the apparent weakness of gravity, where essentially even amounts of positively charged and negatively charged particles make up common matter, and in quantities as big as the earth, say, offer a slight "well" overall, thus explaining why we are aware of gravity at all.

The Biefeld-Brown Effect was discovered when it was noted that a dielectric with electrodes attached at either end would apparently lose weight when charged if the positive pole was pointed upwards on a scale, and apparently gain weight when reversed, when placed on a scale.  It was soon discovered that it was not a weight loss, but a movement in the direction of the positive pole.  Higher voltage increased this effect.

Further study showed that the higher the K of the dielectric, the more pronounced the movements became.  Asymmetrical electrodes contribute to the increase of the effect, as well.  Also, a non-linear dielectric produced greater movement than a linear one.  With high K, non-linear dielectrics, a substantial force could be observed, even to the point of levitation with a local gravity field induced.

 If, say, four devices were placed on a cross, each oriented 90° to the center and pointing in the same direction relative to that center, and a shaft was set at center and into a generator, when small amounts of energy are used at high voltage on the units, the resulting rotation will induce a greater output at the generator than the input to the units.  Overunity (as energy is drawn from the zero point field) is achieved.

Offline energia9

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2012, 09:20:21 AM »


****BLESS ALL****

Offline broli

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2012, 10:30:22 AM »


****BLESS ALL****

Patents are expired but I left one insignificant item out to ensure that an unfriendly power would not be able to use it.

It's always that one special thing that's left out, "the secret ingredient". He also seemed to be very interested in the financial gain of it. But where is he now, what did he accomplish?

I do understand and agree with the thought experiment part. This can also be done with two capacitor plates. When you charge a 2 plate capacitor and then move the plates farther apart the capacitance will drop and the voltage will increase proportionally.
Here's a good experiment showing this:

However I don't quite understand his setup. He wraps a gas discharge tube with some conducting foil/coating and somehow when he switches the tube off the charge is transfered to the conducting coating? It seems to simple that anyone currently playing with fluorescent lights should try it.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2012, 05:53:37 PM by broli »

Offline linoavac

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action - gravitic motor
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 04:41:42 PM »

Offline bhaas

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 07:54:21 PM »
So, who's gonna be the first to spray paint a CFL with zinc paint then touch it???

I remember reading about a shampoo comp a long time ago that had a problem
with their bottles shocking people and that was because the printing on the bottle
was metallic. Free energy out of thin air. I'll see if I can find it again.

Found it:

Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 10:33:20 PM »
Hi folks, Hi amaterasu, thanks for sharing your perspective.
In the past, I built a lifter using a flyback from television and it lifted off the ground and I think it is not ion propulsion as some try to claim.
Humanity does not have a technological problem or a lack of resources of any kind to meet all the basic needs of all humanity.
We have a spiritual consciousness and awareness problem, the reasons for this are varied, some seen and some invisible to the human eyes.
When the heart leads the mind in all humanity, then paradise will manifest.
peace love light
tyson ;) :)

Offline midnight_rambler

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Re: Electrogravitics, Free Energy and Action
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 01:56:52 AM »
Do you have any plans as to how your device was made?