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Title: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: hartiberlin on January 24, 2012, 10:55:13 PM
Hi All,
please have a look at this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myP_i1T2kwY

It is a special rotary howard johnson style motor-generator with a special additional
star-gate-magnet DC-motor coupled.

This combinations is powerd by some precharged ( half charged) capacitors and then let go.
No batteries or other power sources connected.

This device then accelerates and charges up the capacitors.

So this is a potential free energy machine as it overcomes the friction of the system and
also generates some additional energy output by charging up the capacitor bank.

Congratulations to youtube user PMMG4HYBRID
for having build such a wonderful unit !

Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: hoptoad on January 25, 2012, 12:54:07 AM
Very interesting. I hope this fellow is forthcoming with more information.
Cheers
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: storkfmny on January 25, 2012, 02:09:20 PM
This should be easy enough to replicate if it's real
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: tinu on January 25, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
What's so interesting?!
Q=C*U or U=Q/C
Lower the capacity (C), higher the voltage (U) for a given charge (Q) flowing in the series circuit.

If the big cap was 1nF, the voltage would instantly go to the maximum EMF of that generator. So what?!

Now I have a real difficult question: how it comes a guy knowing so little about electricity has so fancy devices and expensive stuff? That is something I can't really understand. ;)
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: crazycut06 on January 25, 2012, 02:54:52 PM
Nice! a combination of howard johnson magnet motor a pulse motor plus and a modified dc motor, wonder how fast it would go if he did not disconnect the power to the motor...and what extra power it could give out... more videos pls... ;D
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on January 25, 2012, 03:30:42 PM
Great find Stefan,

Is this the basics so far(minus control circuitry)? I wasn't sure of the caps or how the generator feeds the caps, feel free to fix/notify if this is in error.

- 5x 1F(?), 2.5vdc caps

- 1x 20mF, 16vdc caps

- Prime mover is his modified "Stargate" DC motor, running off three 1F, 2.5vdc, 7.5vdc total

- Generator is a low rpm axial flux generator for/from wind turbine being fed back into entire cap bank?

Hi Tinu,

I have the same question, about the charging of the top cap. It's going to charge quick, so is he just measuring the quick charging of the small F cap added to the slow discharge of the higher F caps? The real test would be with a load to see if the top cap is really just inflating the reading.

What I do find most interesting with this setup though is the speed increase, which is hard to get with any kind of self generated feedback loop.

Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Liberty on January 25, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
I think the 16 volt cap is a 120,000uf.  Also, the star-gate motor is assisted by a built-in Wankel style magnet motor with a single coil pulsing once or twice per revolution.  The Wankel is built around the outside of the axial style generator that is located in the center of the generator box.  With just the Wankel running the generator, he  says that it will run for an hour or two.  The strange thing is that it speeds up after he manually starts it, but then it runs out of juice in an hour.  That does not make good sense to me.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: crazycut06 on January 25, 2012, 04:17:06 PM
Yeah, i think the wankel motor Does the major spin of the rotor and the pulsing coil assist only to reset the rotors starting position...


What do you think if he put more caps in the rail, would it spin longer or maybe will not stop?
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: tinu on January 25, 2012, 06:06:13 PM


Hi Tinu,

I have the same question, about the charging of the top cap. It's going to charge quick, so is he just measuring the quick charging of the small F cap added to the slow discharge of the higher F caps? The real test would be with a load to see if the top cap is really just inflating the reading.

What I do find most interesting with this setup though is the speed increase, which is hard to get with any kind of self generated feedback loop.

Hi DreamThinkBuild,

You don’t need another test. It’s already done in the video: the voltage clearly drops (albeit slowly) due to the very small load attached (the internal resistance of the DMM, probably 10MOhm).

On the second issue, imho it is not really a “self generated feedback loop”. The feedback current quickly goes to zero (due to the rapid charging of the terminal cap) hence rapidly decreasing counter-torque, hence acceleration. Meanwhile, the other 3 much larger caps of 1/3F at 4V or so have enough energy to temporarily sustain the motor.

Best regards,
Tinu
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on January 26, 2012, 12:05:46 AM
Hi Tinu,

Thank you very much for the informative reply. The increase in speed makes sense now.

Hi Liberty,

Thanks for the update on the cap.

I think I see why he is losing charge over an hour or two from Tinu's explanation.

Once the top cap is full the feedback current is near zero, the motor will still be drawing from the three motor caps though.

As the three caps slowly lose charge the fast charging cap is acting as counter balance to the lost charge on the three motor caps.

Once a point is reached the top caps will not be able to sustain the current draw from the motor and lost charge from the three motor caps then it stops.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: madddann on January 26, 2012, 06:19:20 PM
Hi guys! I just want to say that if his motor generator is close to unity (runs for two hours), it is obvious to me that the overunity part of the system should be his stargate motor.
It would be great if someone could test a stargate type motor coupled with an identical motor as a generator and see if it exceeds unity.

His stargate motor video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xv-req4U8U&list=UUreJcMjYx-ovTpN4MomNNtw&index=3&feature=plcp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xv-req4U8U&list=UUreJcMjYx-ovTpN4MomNNtw&index=3&feature=plcp)


Dann
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on January 27, 2012, 08:29:41 PM
What's so interesting?!
Q=C*U or U=Q/C
Lower the capacity (C), higher the voltage (U) for a given charge (Q) flowing in the series circuit.

If the big cap was 1nF, the voltage would instantly go to the maximum EMF of that generator. So what?!

Now I have a real difficult question: how it comes a guy knowing so little about electricity has so fancy devices and expensive stuff? That is something I can't really understand. ;)
I have questions for you! have you ever succeed to produce any device able to accelerate with no power supply, while even filling caps? And why he made this vid and talk about the new cap if it is because the it has made a significant positive change I would like to see many here to do like?
And what makes you so jealous that you feel need to be so negatively critical and depreciative with this experimentator that try to make progresses for free energy? and has made so very clean apparatus? and stay humble on his results?

As I see, while he has put a link to this thread, he didn't come post then after, and why should he do if so negatives comments as you did?
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on January 27, 2012, 09:16:37 PM
I think the 16 volt cap is a 120,000uf.  Also, the star-gate motor is assisted by a built-in Wankel style magnet motor with a single coil pulsing once or twice per revolution.  The Wankel is built around the outside of the axial style generator that is located in the center of the generator box.  With just the Wankel running the generator, he  says that it will run for an hour or two.  The strange thing is that it speeds up after he manually starts it, but then it runs out of juice in an hour.  That does not make good sense to me.
Hi Liberty! Note that he never said it stops or after how long it's stopped in his last vid, only for previous about only his Quanta Magnet Motor Generator Hybrid! but looks he is afraid to come here to say more; I ask myself "why?" !...
Regards.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: DadHav on January 28, 2012, 07:32:19 PM
I don't know. Before trying to figure out exactly how this machine works, I'm wondering why he said "Is this over unity or not? I'll let you decide" Why doesn't he say it is or isn't. If I had something over unity I would be yelling it from the highest hill. I couldn't wait to get on to the next test to show off my find. I could think of all kind of interesting tests to prove what I have. Where are the follow up videos or even better credible verification from someone. I'm tired of things that are shrouded in mystery and self discovery. I challenge this guy to give us solid proof of concept. How many people here have tried to duplicate the Mike motor or the Romero motor or how many others? The Stargate Motor? Come on. You can't just slap magnets around the outside of a DC motor anywhere you want without knowing exact timing by position as well as manyother things and expect to see results. Not to mention the outside steel of the case is a form of keeper and will let very little trough to the other side.  Has anyone ever built a Stargate motor? Sorry guys this all looks to familiar to me. The only thing missing here so far is instructions or a DVD for sale.
John H
 
 
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: garrypm on January 28, 2012, 08:30:24 PM
Hi John (dadhav),
 
While I agree with many of your sentiments, especially the amount of flux getting past the casing, I can tell you
that with the small motor in the pic below and the 4 small neos, the rpms increase from around 2400 to 3150 - mind you
the current draw does not increase!
 
I don't understand why or how, but I simply wanted to try it and that is the result I got.
 
Thanks, Garry.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: DadHav on January 28, 2012, 08:54:34 PM
Hey Gary, that's very interesting. Tell us more. Are the magnets polarized with the north and south on the faces. Did you just stick them anywhere you wanted on the case. Maybe I just need to try this myself. You know it doesn't make any sense right? Although maybe someone has the technical explanation. I would like to hear it. I design my own motors and the technology might be something useful. Have a look here if you're interested in such things and haven't been to my channel yet:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DadHav[/size][/color][/size][/color] (http://www.youtube.com/user/DadHav)
Thanks. I appreciate the comment.
John H.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on January 28, 2012, 09:40:11 PM
Hi All,

This is a sim of the current cap configuration. The sim assumes that the voltage coming out of the generator is constant and is not affected by the motor even while it is losing power. Also pre-charging the bottom cap to 12v makes no difference to the sim as it still shows the same downward curve.

You can see from the graphs that the top caps are taking on the lost charge of the bottom cap and it will eventually starve the motor as the current decreases.

Top caps in series = (1/1F)+(1/1F)+(1/120mF)=96mF
Bottom caps in series = 1F/3 = 333mF

Import code to circuit sim @ http://www.falstad.com/circuit/

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$ 1 5.0E-6 382.76258214399064 50 5.0 50
c 288 224 288 288 0 0.096 9.73945003037359
g 288 352 288 400 0
R 288 144 288 64 0 0 40.0 12.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
c 288 288 288 352 0 0.333 0.023169253331816946
r 288 144 288 224 0 100.0
r 368 288 368 352 0 1.0
w 288 352 368 352 0
w 288 288 368 288 0
w 288 224 224 224 0
w 288 352 224 352 0
p 224 224 224 352 1
p 432 288 432 352 1
w 432 352 368 352 0
w 432 288 368 288 0
p 368 288 368 224 1
w 288 224 368 224 0
o 0 8192 0 35 10.0 0.2 0 -1
o 3 8192 0 35 0.15625 0.2 1 -1
o 11 16384 0 34 0.15625 9.765625E-5 2 -1


If anyone has suggestions please post.

If he could make a continual cap charger that would be great, just have two banks of caps and a switching circuit.

Bank A: charging
Bank B: running load
switch
Bank A: running load
Bank B: charging
switch
...
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on January 29, 2012, 06:10:10 PM
I don't know. Before trying to figure out exactly how this machine works, I'm wondering why he said "Is this over unity or not? I'll let you decide" Why doesn't he say it is or isn't. If I had something over unity I would be yelling it from the highest hill. I couldn't wait to get on to the next test to show off my find. I could think of all kind of interesting tests to prove what I have. Where are the follow up videos or even better credible verification from someone. I'm tired of things that are shrouded in mystery and self discovery. I challenge this guy to give us solid proof of concept. How many people here have tried to duplicate the Mike motor or the Romero motor or how many others? The Stargate Motor? Come on. You can't just slap magnets around the outside of a DC motor anywhere you want without knowing exact timing by position as well as manyother things and expect to see results. Not to mention the outside steel of the case is a form of keeper and will let very little trough to the other side.  Has anyone ever built a Stargate motor? Sorry guys this all looks to familiar to me. The only thing missing here so far is instructions or a DVD for sale.
John H
Because you probably prefer to have someone who is too sure of his results and will make you losing time to replicate for nothing?
It's not so often that an experimentator has kind of humility.
I know this feeling because I've experienced before: thinking that could be we have it, but then the deception. So what we do then? We are prudent, checking and rechecking. Can't you appreciate that he could take time to present not just a "possibility of" because of lake of withdraw from, to something presented with more rigour and not "on fire" of the big joy to get a very nice effect with his apparatus while having just successfully changed a way to set it?
Lets give him some time to prepare his next vid! As you can see on his vid, the quality of his artefacts are quite good, I think he would be used take his time to make it good.
Any way, being so critical I'm not sure that you deserve for a benefit of his long way work... and why would he come here to read such critics???
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on January 29, 2012, 06:17:16 PM
Hey Gary, that's very interesting. Tell us more. Are the magnets polarized with the north and south on the faces. Did you just stick them anywhere you wanted on the case. Maybe I just need to try this myself. You know it doesn't make any sense right? Although maybe someone has the technical explanation. I would like to hear it. .../...
And why don't you have a look to his previous vid on his StarGate-Motor, before to goes so critical in your previous post? He all explains it...
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on January 29, 2012, 06:37:53 PM
Hi All,

This is a sim of the current cap configuration. The sim assumes that the voltage coming out of the generator is constant and is not affected by the motor even while it is losing power. .../...
Hi DreamThinBuild!
That's great you made this sim, but the conditions that have been changed looks to me very essential, as yes, the generator has not constant voltage but increases, and that is that the interaction of the whole that could make it work.
Regards.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: tinu on January 29, 2012, 07:29:23 PM
...
 You know it doesn't make any sense right? Although maybe someone has the technical explanation. I would like to hear it. I design my own motors and the technology might be something useful. Have a look here if you're interested in such things and haven't been to my channel yet:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DadHav[/size][/color][/size][/color] (http://www.youtube.com/user/DadHav)
Thanks. I appreciate the comment.
John H.

Hi John H,

It seems it doesn’t make sense but imho it does.
Yes, there is a technical explanation: commercial electric motors are primarily optimized for cost-performance and only secondary for energy performance.

Have a look at Lorentz force and force on a current-carrying wire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force). 
Force is proportional to the magnitude of magnetic field (B). So, yes, if magnetic field is increased, the torque increases too, hence higher rpm. Yet, the issue is not that simple because for a given motor and a given rpm and current, a higher B involves a higher counter electromotive force (CEMF) because CEMF depends on the time-change rate of magnetic flux (dB/dt). That further means the motor needs a higher voltage to run. In final, summing up the two above, the motor requires less current but higher voltage. Because power is voltage x current, it is irrelevant if current is lower if nothing is being said about voltage...
Anyway, in general, higher the B means a more efficient motor because of the physical dependencies involved (B versus dB/dt). If cost of magnets is not an issue, most PMM motors can be made slightly more efficient but not decisively; as known, typical efficiencies of 90-95% are not uncommon. Likewise, efficiency may be increased if motor would be provided with frictionless bearings, with better magnetic materials, or run in vacuum, or externally extra-cooled or even made superconductive but unfortunately most of these options are not very affordable/cost-effective.
For a common PMM just search with a compass for the permanent magnets (number, position and polarity) and then place the external PMMs so the magnetic field always adds; if one can cut the original casing and then close the external magnetic circuit is much better but simply adding the external magnets would do it for current purposes. The external magnets shall ideally have the same thickness as the internal ones.

Let me express my appreciation for your excellent engineering&building skills and excuse the long wording above that was aimed not to you but for everyone to understand if interested.

Best regards,
Tinu
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: hartiberlin on January 30, 2012, 03:00:21 AM
Here is more info directly from the inventor.

Sorry I am a bit late with this:

Yes, you may have permission to copy.

Regarding your question, there are no batteries of any kind connected to this device as shown. Just the capacitors that you see.

I must admit that I'm somewhat frightened by your term "Perpetual Energy System". I don't have a death wish. Let's call it a "Potential Free Energy Device". That will take the heat off of me. I'm not looking for fame and fortune, just answers and solutions. My other videos will show you that.

As a matter of fact, this experiment was simply a "what if" scenario. I'm just as astonished with the result as everyone else. I'm not absolutely sure of what is happening, but I have a couple of reasonable synopsis. The first is spoken of in the video, though disputed by some. The second is that the 16v cap quickly loads (charges) then becomes an open conduit for generated power to freely flow through it into the smaller caps, thus itself eliminating the resistance typically apparent when generating rectified DC directly from the axial flux alternator to the smaller caps. It acts almost as if the generator isn't even engaged. Blows my mind.

Didn't mean to get so wordy here, I'm just still a bit excited. I keep thinking to myself that I've built these other great devices that haven't been made into videos yet, but now, who's going to want to see them after this one.

Thanks for your interest.
M.





Stefan,

Funny that you mention overcharging. My first connection to the stargate motor included all of the smaller caps. The voltage rose to over 40v so quickly that I thought the caps were destroyed for certain. But they weren't.

Did you see my response ? It's actually a third possible synopsis.

I said:
"It's also possible that these capacitors have become strangely conditioned after many years and millions of high voltage BEMF pulses fed into them". After all, this device was designed years ago to be a simplified pulse motor/generator for easy replication.

The solid state relay draws its tiny amount of power on the switch side from even the smallest charge in the capacitors. But guess what, the EM pulse was completely disengaged during this experiment. Why? The open door scenario explained in the Quanta video comes into play, and the HJ type stator arrangement provides a slight gain in angular momentum.

M.

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Stefan,

There will always be skeptics. Usually it's someone with a personal problem that is simply jealous of another's accomplishments. I see this in business every day. I can certainly assure you that the machine you see in the video is in its entirety. Nothing else exists or is connected.


I'm not necessarily opposed to individuals replicating it.

As time permits, I will try to make another video showing it under load while charging and accelerating, and maybe spinning it around for those who have difficulty accepting reality. Don't they realize that technology always moves in a forward direction? We've had the ability to do this for the past 18 years since Takahashi developed the first neo. It's just been overlooked.

M

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Stefan,


Feel free to post my additional info comments to you.
 I don't want your viewers getting pissed off thinking that they will never get the opportunity to replicate, because they most likely will.

Finally, I haven't given you the cap values yet because I've got an idea of how to increase charging volume and speed even more. I want this thing to be at maximum performance for the greatest benefit. So I have a little more testing to do first, for now. I'm also considering during this time to try magnetically coupling the DC motor instead of direct as shown, to possibly further reduce the friction equation.

You can use that last paragraph too.

I appreciate your help in boosting my subscriber base.

Take care.
M
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Caps
You're so funny Stefan. You keep pushing for capacitor info. Of course they're double layer capacitors. They wouldn't last for one second if they weren't. Another reason why the voltage is so low. They're an older version with lower storage, but they yield much higher efficiency in charge and discharge rates, and keep the electric flow smooth. That's an absolute must.

The big cap on the top is just that... big. Nothing special about it, but necessary to cut generator resistance for a nice free flow into the DL's.

Everyone knows the importance of proper wire and connections. The inefficient test leads were used because this was simply a last minute experiment that happened to produce a remarkable result. There are many losses already in this device, and yet it accelerates quite nicely.

I have to be absolutely convinced without a shadow of a doubt before making any claims, but when I do, I know it's correct. In any case, research sure is fun to do.

M
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Stefan,

A few months ago a friend of mine mentioned to me that if I wanted to show my experiments and inventions on YouTube, not to show the good ones like the self charger and others I haven't yet shown. He said if you do, the vultures will circle.

For fun, I decided to read some of the comments on your forum, and a couple of them made me realize what he meant. Most are OK, and some even give reasonable suggestions or would just like to see more tests. That's fine. But then there are ones who think they have all the answers. You know the type.

I'm not complaining, I expected this response. But then I read a comment from some person named "tinu" where he said "Now I have a real difficult question: how it comes a guy knowing so little about electricity has so fancy devices and expensive stuff? That is something I can't really understand."

I just didn't want him to sway your opinion of my skills since it's your website.

Brief story: When I was 15 before graduating high school, two men came to my parents house to offer me a full college scholarship in electronics. I wasn't too interested at the time because I was busy piloting aircraft around the country. "Tinu" says I'm supposed to be the "guy knowing so little about electricity". Uneducated and ignorant statements like that, keep me off the forums. Just wanted you to know. I will show and divulge information when I see fit. I try very hard not to make claims. I'm not in this for egotistical purposes as many individuals are.

I know these guys are only guessing at what's going on in my circuitry, because I haven't revealed it yet. I like where this "DadHav" guy doubting even the Stargate Motor is put in his place when "garrypm" successfully replicates the concept. Now that's good forum stuff.

In one of the many tests I've conducted on the self charger setup, I connected two of the little 12v ATV lead acid batteries in series for 24v to run the motor. I disconnected the capacitors from the system. Then geared the motor down with cheap pulleys and belt 6:1 to run the large rotor. After 30 minutes of running the motor at 3000 rpm and backfeeding generated power, the batteries voltage increased by 1.3v. No capacitors used at all. I may conduct that test again, video it and post it to my channel once the vultures settle down a bit.

M.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Light on January 30, 2012, 03:29:26 AM
thx, Stephan, this's very promising thing...
combined Adams motor with HJ acceleration and collecting power from attached alternator;

i've tried this idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH-1rjKbdEM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH-1rjKbdEM)


but increase in rpm and in charge the same time is just BIG...
thx, M, whoever you are...
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: aaron5120 on January 30, 2012, 06:14:30 AM
After viewing the motor-generator video clip I decided to subscribe to M's channel. I can discern that there is ingenuity in this gentleman's work. I recognize the elegance of his construction and the humility of a genius in such a configuration. Few inventors possess these abilities at the same time, that make this case study unique.
I believe this is not a Mylow, or Romero, or a Caggiano case of sensational discoveries turning into unsolved misteries that nobody can replicate.
I sincerely look forward to seeing M's success to refine his elegant combinations of several devices into an overunity apparatus, that is, a magnetic reforced dc PM motor, a HJ Wankel variation motor, a PM axial generator, and finally, a tesla switch capacitor charger.
Maybe some circuitry from Konehead of EVGray can help M to recover the BEMK and coil shorting spikes to make the motor-generator even more efficient.
This is the most promising stuff I have seen so far in the 2012, besides the E-Catalyzer of Andrea Rossi. 
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: hoptoad on January 30, 2012, 10:31:40 AM
After viewing the motor-generator video clip I decided to subscribe to M's channel.
snip...
I've been looking for his other video's without success. Could you post a link to subscribe to M's Channel

Curious.

Cheers
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: garrypm on January 30, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
Here you go -
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/PMMG4HYBRID/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/PMMG4HYBRID/videos)
 
Garry
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: hoptoad on January 31, 2012, 02:56:59 AM
Here you go -
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/PMMG4HYBRID/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/PMMG4HYBRID/videos)
 
Garry
Many thanks
Cheers
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: e2matrix on February 02, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
I had doubts about this setup when I saw it after doing a little google research but having seen his responses now to Stefan I have a lot more confidence in all this.  His replies indicate a lot of intelligence and with that I tend to believe he has something to watch closely.  I just hope he realizes how many times everyone here has been down a path full of HOPE only to have it disappear like dew in the morning sunlight.  And I hope he knows how badly this planet and people need a good alternate source of clean power.  It can save so many and do so much good.   

 Then again this video from him seems a bit contrary to his replies to Stefan and sounds more like an advertisement for selling magnetic generators:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wmshnblSxI&feature=plcp&context=C3148086UDOEgsToPDskJV28pxIRtW3Pw24Lc-YN0S

  I'll keep an eye on this
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on February 03, 2012, 10:56:05 PM
I had doubts about this setup when I saw it after doing a little google research but having seen his responses now to Stefan I have a lot more confidence in all this.  His replies indicate a lot of intelligence and with that I tend to believe he has something to watch closely.
Hi e2matrix!
Yes, he want to be sure of what it does, he doesn't want to disappoint anybody, and most of all, as he has a very professional way: he'd like to well finishing his work that it could be real used then after as he deliver it, with no deception for replication. That's why he takes is time to afford a good product for anybody.

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  I just hope he realizes how many times everyone here has been down a path full of HOPE only to have it disappear like dew in the morning sunlight.
It's exactly what I was talking about :)

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  And I hope he knows how badly this planet and people need a good alternate source of clean power.  It can save so many and do so much good.   
It is his main motivation, I can tell you he is very aware of this, for the few personal mess I have exchanged with him.

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Then again this video from him seems a bit contrary to his replies to Stefan and sounds more like an advertisement for selling magnetic generators:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wmshnblSxI&feature=plcp&context=C3148086UDOEgsToPDskJV28pxIRtW3Pw24Lc-YN0S
Yes, but I think there is lot of fun too while presenting this vid as a trailer for his future other vids he made then after ;) And you can see too right at the beginning of, which purpose he try to reach, and this is all about ecology :)
Cheer, Khwartz.

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I'll keep an eye on this
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Thaelin on February 08, 2012, 08:00:17 PM
   Can you ask the place where this motor came from. Would like to order one for tests with.
   Thanks

thay

Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 08, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Hi guys, this motor real running one, and its has very much smart inventor.Bravo dear Sir PMMG4HYBRID! It is possible to create.It Is alive motor!
Are we have anyone here who can make el.circuit of this motor on paper based on inventor explanations?:)
Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 08, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
What's so interesting?!
Q=C*U or U=Q/C
Lower the capacity (C), higher the voltage (U) for a given charge (Q) flowing in the series circuit.

If the big cap was 1nF, the voltage would instantly go to the maximum EMF of that generator. So what?!

Now I have a real difficult question: how it comes a guy knowing so little about electricity has so fancy devices and expensive stuff? That is something I can't really understand. ;)
you completely wrong on your calculations and observations about used caps capacity.Only what I can say as hint - they Are huge as all mountains in the world 100 times ;) PMMG4HYBRID has real talent to see very FAR Sir.Please believe to old soviet Union not bad electric & sophisticated electronic engineer. I am not able to open all true about the motor just because dont have such permission from guy.! You have only one option - make your one research why it is running based on all videos and what electric part of motor doing really.
Have nice research!

It is not so simple like you are going to calculate. Sorry I am not able to translate all my Russian language thoughts, do it via google here is the cap capacitance etc calculations in real as the example:

Зависимость тока в простейшей RC цепи в момент времени t:
I(t) = I0 * e^(-t/T)
где I0 - начальный ток, T = R*C
Время, необходимое на разрядку конденсатора с I0 до I1:
I(t)/I0=e^(-t/T)
-t/T=ln(I(t)/I0)
t=-ln(I(t)/I0)*RC
t=-ln(U1/R / (U0/R))*RC; где U1 - конечное напряжение, U0 - начальное
=========
I=U/R
R=const
Количество амперов которое выдаст конденсатор есть площадь криволинейной трапеции и за время t находится при помощи опредленного интеграла на отрезке [0;t]:
Первообразная F(t):
F(t)=I(t)*dt
F(t)=I0 * e^(-t/T) *dt
F(t)=I0 * e^(-t/T) *dt
F(t)=I0 * -T * e^(-t/T)
F(t)=U0/R * -RC * e^(-t/(RC))
============
При условиях
R=10 - постоянное сопротивление в цепи
U0=2.5 - начальное напряжение
U1=1 - конечное
C=20 - емкость (Ф)
t=-ln(1/10/(2.5/10))*10*20
t=183.26 sec - за это время конденсатор разрядится до 1 В
t0=0
t1=183.26 sec.
Summ(t0,t1) = F(t1)-F(t0) = 0.25*-200*e^(-183.26/200) - (0.25*-200*e^(0)) =
-19.99 +50 = 30.01 A*sec
30.01/183.26 = 0.164 A

Итого, в идеальных условиях конденсатор выдаст q=30А*sec (за период t1-t0). Хотя надо понимать что значение тока в цепи убывает по экспоненте от времени. Это значение не зависит от R в цепи. В зависимости от R (=10 ohm) его хватит на 3 минуты до разряда до 1 В с 2.5 В при начальном токе 250mA и конечном токе 100 мА (средний ток 164 mA)



Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on February 09, 2012, 11:49:57 AM
you completely wrong on your calculations and observations about used caps capacity.Only what I can say as hint - they Are huge as all mountains in the world 100 times ;) PMMG4HYBRID has real talent to see very FAR Sir.Please believe to old soviet Union not bad electric & sophisticated electronic engineer. I am not able to open all true about the motor just because dont have such permission from guy.! You have only one option - make your one research why it is running based on all videos and what electric part of motor doing really.
Have nice research!

It is not so simple like you are going to calculate. Sorry I am not able to translate all my Russian language thoughts, do it via google here is the cap capacitance etc calculations in real as the example:

Зависимость тока в простейшей RC цепи в момент времени t:
I(t) = I0 * e^(-t/T)
где I0 - начальный ток, T = R*C
Время, необходимое на разрядку конденсатора с I0 до I1:
I(t)/I0=e^(-t/T)
-t/T=ln(I(t)/I0)
t=-ln(I(t)/I0)*RC
t=-ln(U1/R / (U0/R))*RC; где U1 - конечное напряжение, U0 - начальное
=========
I=U/R
R=const
Количество амперов которое выдаст конденсатор есть площадь криволинейной трапеции и за время t находится при помощи опредленного интеграла на отрезке [0;t]:
Первообразная F(t):
F(t)=I(t)*dt
F(t)=I0 * e^(-t/T) *dt
F(t)=I0 * e^(-t/T) *dt
F(t)=I0 * -T * e^(-t/T)
F(t)=U0/R * -RC * e^(-t/(RC))
============
При условиях
R=10 - постоянное сопротивление в цепи
U0=2.5 - начальное напряжение
U1=1 - конечное
C=20 - емкость (Ф)
t=-ln(1/10/(2.5/10))*10*20
t=183.26 sec - за это время конденсатор разрядится до 1 В
t0=0
t1=183.26 sec.
Summ(t0,t1) = F(t1)-F(t0) = 0.25*-200*e^(-183.26/200) - (0.25*-200*e^(0)) =
-19.99 +50 = 30.01 A*sec
30.01/183.26 = 0.164 A

Итого, в идеальных условиях конденсатор выдаст q=30А*sec (за период t1-t0). Хотя надо понимать что значение тока в цепи убывает по экспоненте от времени. Это значение не зависит от R в цепи. В зависимости от R (=10 ohm) его хватит на 3 минуты до разряда до 1 В с 2.5 В при начальном токе 250mA и конечном токе 100 мА (средний ток 164 mA)



Truly
Rob
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Wow! I very like to have mathematics formulas to use to then design and predict, but here, I would like even more to know russian!   :'(
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on February 09, 2012, 11:53:13 AM
Hi guys, this motor real running one, and its has very much smart inventor.Bravo dear Sir PMMG4HYBRID! It is possible to create.It Is alive motor!
Are we have anyone here who can make el.circuit of this motor on paper based on inventor explanations?:)
Truly
Rob
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He told me that when he will have finished to make his new set, it will be to make it fully replicated by anybody, with no deception, and that he wanted to take all the time necessary to deliver this quality of product. All what I wish is that he is not going in trouble and deception with his device.
Cheer.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 09, 2012, 02:30:58 PM
He told me that when he will have finished to make his new set, it will be to make it fully replicated by anybody, with no deception, and that he wanted to take all the time necessary to deliver this quality of product. All what I wish is that he is not going in trouble and deception with his device.
Cheer.
Hi dear Khwartz, I don't think that this is going to become open source project because I had never saw in my 50 years life open source projects for such powerfull world breakout projects.May be I am wrong, but I can only recommend here to make mind exercise and work out circuits by your own.
Think deeper, if Mr. HRJ made patents of his magnet liner actuators then why next honorable inventor Mr. PMMG4HYBRID have to create open source project of really running magnet motor with alive electrical SP point solution?
I am able to guess here only one thing - if we are find the shown electrical solution then we can show it to dear Mr.PMMG4HYBRID to show our mind power, knowledge base and by that earn his trust, love to become first free or almost free testers of his solution from his hand.Life is competition and free of charge cheese only in mouse trap cage:)

truly
rob
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on February 10, 2012, 08:46:15 AM
Hi dear Khwartz, I don't think that this is going to become open source project because I had never saw in my 50 years life open source projects for such powerfull world breakout projects.May be I am wrong, but I can only recommend here to make mind exercise and work out circuits by your own.
Think deeper, if Mr. HRJ made patents of his magnet liner actuators then why next honorable inventor Mr. PMMG4HYBRID have to create open source project of really running magnet motor with alive electrical SP point solution?
I am able to guess here only one thing - if we are find the shown electrical solution then we can show it to dear Mr.PMMG4HYBRID to show our mind power, knowledge base and by that earn his trust, love to become first free or almost free testers of his solution from his hand.Life is competition and free of charge cheese only in mouse trap cage:)

truly
rob
I Rob!
I think I understand your point. But I would like to bring your attention on the point that an inventor can obtain a patent and allow personal replication not allowed for sells, to permit the invention to be produce by industry.
Very in opposite of what I can see here, for me, it's not by personal replications that we will get off the grid everybody, but by industrial manufactures. But as for our device, hard for industry to work without energy (money), while if no patent, which industry will invest while any other can do the same? Well, could be Chinese? Could be, but I can understand too that the inventor could expect to be rewarded for his work too, and without patent, hard to obtain a just retribution of he could bring to Humanity.
As I told you I had few exchanges with him, "Mr M.", and he told me too about working to make it possible for personal replications, even if could be, to make his invention recognized, not losing all the benefits ans rewards for his work, he could patent it to obtain contracts with industry. It's what I can suppose from our conversations. But in any case, he has insist that he is aware of the demand for replication and that he was working to permit that with no deception, if that could be possible for him.
Now, if has been contact by main industrial manager, could be they ask him to not reveal his technology to protect our future market, and then, could be now he is in a problem between his original intentions and the demands of the industry, that could happen too, and that could explain the long silence: by embarrasment  :-\
Cheer, Khwartz.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 10, 2012, 11:12:06 AM
Dear  Khwartz.
1. I did not knew that you are also Rob, nice to know your name>
I Rob!
2. Hope this was typed by mistake, don't be so emotional Rob when someone in the world even from from Far Armenia for suggesting to do your own research to get the el. circuit 
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Very in opposite of what I can see here, for me, it's not by personal replications that we will get off the grid everybody, but by industrial manufactures.
I am not sure that it will go to industrial manufacturing stage as far it is able to cut "oil guys" money very seriously in USA and only there
This project has only one way by now to be developed - small QTY by such guys like Mr. M and other who can guess its structure without help of inventor.
4. If someone need to go on in such breakout motors to avoid "oil guys" penetrations then developed parts & videos must not be on the air.There are 1000 other ways how to spread it.Don't make me crazy I am math & very well educated guy... & don't like "missed shoots"
Actually when I am going to attack anything/someting or someone I am not crying before - HEEEEEYYY I AM COMING TO KILL YOU BIG GUY!
I am trying to communicate/negotiate and establish good manner relations by show all mind power and other power too to explane that we are equal and nobody need "first blood"RAMBO-1 story
Mass production of such good invention are able to create new serial of RAMBO but already not Paramount picture movie real one on the head of inventor. I understood all those things on the road of my personal developments around of this item and now slowdown and thinking more deep - answer in my suggestion here.
5.
which industry will invest while any other can do the same? Well, could be Chinese? Could be.....
China holding ~95% of  rear earth metal natural source of planet - Because of that all this technology will get most powerfull development in China because they are living not so good... I am not counting 30% of their population but counting 70%. I can only imagine what can happen if next 70% will get reach
Furthermore,
If we are all here thinking even in 1 sec that China do not have inventions already then ROFL and LOL - question here - show me 2-3 of such nice inversions at their tubes ets? Are you able? I am waiting that with all my endurance.Are we here to develop China? LOL:)
6. I am writing here already too much letters, so going to stop because magnet motor based on HRJ and other patents already developed. I can sleep calm:)  Now we need to understand how to spread it  for our families to cut electrical and heat bills without having problem with China and Oil Guys!!LOL Crazy to say - unreachable dream and goal already:)

Truly
Rob



Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: lancaIV on February 11, 2012, 12:43:19 PM
@ Arrow:
rare earth minerals are not so rare, better to call these minerals Lantanides.

China has reached 95% of the world industrial  'rare earth' minerals exploration and extraction, but this country has not 95% of the world rare earth deposits !
The industrial exploration is there cheaper and the worker health and the ambiental destruction has not a political priority to become resolved and that is the industrial and social difference to other countires with Lantanides deposits.

Sincerely
                 CdL
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 11, 2012, 04:01:33 PM
@ Arrow:
rare earth minerals are not so rare, better to call these minerals Lantanides.

China has reached 95% of the world industrial  'rare earth' minerals exploration and extraction, but this country has not 95% of the world rare earth deposits !
The industrial exploration is there cheaper and the worker health and the ambiental destruction has not a political priority to become resolved and that is the industrial and social difference to other countires with Lantanides deposits.

Sincerely
                 CdL
Yeap , sorry for my pure English - it is Lantanides - exactly.
Moreover again agree with you about <but this country has not 95% of the world rare earth deposits !> but it is still the most cheap source because on surface.Many sat. pics proving that.
Only Japan scientists found the way to change history about cheap rare earth deposits ! They are locating on the Ocean bottom at the silt and only they know new technology how to filter it. Only about 5000sq/km of such silt from ocean bottom with Lantanides can cover all of the world need, but nobody know when this will happen. Mean time almost all Neo magnets from China increased by its price, I don't remember the % number, but it is already happening...All this situation with Lantanides and such grate new world breakout inventions telling me about very bad scenarios, sorry Sir...As for me - I am stopping all my research works to be published here or somewhere else to slow down bad scenarios.Hope nobody will be disappointed and thanks for understanding from everybody. I like smart and deep understanding from people, hope to see it after such not crazy in did explanation here.Sorry for Russian - информация взята и базируется на очень серьезные источники! It is time to Energize the scientific info powerfull shield with its max performance until bad scenarios not activated. We shal block 100% copy/paste ablity They are grate in this function, and God bless all of us that only in that! Patenting and publishing them openly will not save us.Rules are working very slow..
Best Regards & Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: lancaIV on February 11, 2012, 06:32:09 PM
Yes,I heared about these findings !
The  increasing prices of Neodym magnets are the consequence of political export quantity restrictments.
Now up to ten times more the producer have to pay for  Neodym minerals.
But China needs for their 1,3 billion people sufficient minerals reserves  for their own wellfare development and to protect their own high-tech industry !

And the Flynn research team showed us  Neodym is sometimes the wrong way for efficiency improvements.
They went back to use ceram5/8 magnets.
Magnets and capacitors,yes ! Rare earth minerals: not absolutely needed !

Sincerely
                 CdL
   
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Khwartz on February 11, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
Dear  Khwartz.
Hi Arrow.
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1. I did not knew that you are also Rob, nice to know your name>
lol, no, Rob is the mane of the person I've quoted, I mean you I think ;)

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2. Hope this was typed by mistake, don't be so emotional Rob when someone in the world even from from Far Armenia for suggesting to do your own research to get the el. circuit
hehe, I think you're answering to the real "Rob", not me ;)

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3.I am not sure that it will go to industrial manufacturing stage as far it is able to cut "oil guys" money very seriously in USA and only there
This project has only one way by now to be developed - small QTY by such guys like Mr. M and other who can guess its structure without help of inventor.
In France, some guys have started to run in a industrial stage and sell to industry and even state too :) but yes, still at a very low level of spreading  :-\

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4. If someone need to go on in such breakout motors to avoid "oil guys" penetrations then developed parts & videos must not be on the air.There are 1000 other ways how to spread it.Don't make me crazy I am math & very well educated guy... & don't like "missed shoots"
Actually when I am going to attack anything/someting or someone I am not crying before - HEEEEEYYY I AM COMING TO KILL YOU BIG GUY!
I am trying to communicate/negotiate and establish good manner relations by show all mind power and other power too to explane that we are equal and nobody need "first blood"RAMBO-1 story
Do you address you to me? Rob, I don't understand, I'm not to war here against anybody! lol

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Mass production of such good invention are able to create new serial of RAMBO but already not Paramount picture movie real one on the head of inventor.
Oh, I see now, like the witnessing of an engineer who explain that guys came to an inventor saying wanted to help him, and destroy his credibility by modifying his invention in a way it didn't worked like presented? Or like Steven MARK bad stories said on him, that made him no more communicating with the rest of the world?
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I understood all those things on the road of my personal developments around of this item and now slowdown and thinking more deep - answer in my suggestion here.
ok :)
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5. China holding ~95% of  rear earth metal natural source of planet - Because of that all this technology will get most powerfull development in China because they are living not so good... I am not counting 30% of their population but counting 70%. I can only imagine what can happen if next 70% will get reach
don't know.

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Furthermore,
If we are all here thinking even in 1 sec that China do not have inventions already then ROFL and LOL - question here - show me 2-3 of such nice inversions at their tubes ets? Are you able? I am waiting that with all my endurance.Are we here to develop China? LOL:)
Sorry, surely my bad english, I don't well understand you, Rob :/

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6. I am writing here already too much letters, so going to stop because magnet motor based on HRJ and other patents already developed. I can sleep calm:)  Now we need to understand how to spread it  for our families to cut electrical and heat bills without having problem with China and Oil Guys!!LOL Crazy to say - unreachable dream and goal already:)
What about a kind of "International Association For Free Energy Promotion", which could shortened all the system to produce the devices by itself and sell it to pay the promotion to make it known?

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Truly
Rob
Khwartz
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 11, 2012, 07:26:31 PM
Rare earth minerals: not absolutely needed !

Sincerely
                 CdL
   
I am very sorry, not agree with you in this issue. most powerful wind turbines etc based on that technology, but not ceramic one.
If they need any maintenance( they need them definitely) it means Neo magnets will have long life.
Chemically based on metal composition metal is metal but metal  ceramic can not ever cover that magnetic power need because of magnetic particles dencity "diluted" by ceramic particles.sorry don't know English such good to explane it not with kid language...
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 11, 2012, 07:43:36 PM

What about a kind of "International Association For Free Energy Promotion", which could shortened all the system to produce the devices by itself and sell it to pay the promotion to make it known?

;) You had answer to this question automatically by expression "What about <a kind of>" - It must be not "a kind of" already now and many years  in did to reach the goal:) please give me back my powerfull microscope to see them at real scale fight :)
I have on my cable about 250 tv never heard or see about them...funny, and pity in the same time...
only when I had digout 1000 kg info I have seen them...my opinion they are only glueplug and I can not see "gas and chamber" that can create cinetic energy in such movement :)
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 11, 2012, 07:56:48 PM

In France, some guys have started to run in a industrial stage and sell to industry and even state too :) but yes, still at a very low level of spreading  :-\

any links to see?
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 14, 2012, 12:48:03 AM
well, guys its seems to me something going on at yt subscription at PMMG4HYBRID. I was removed twice from it and inventor telling me that it is not him who removing me, I believe him.So, takecare guys , it is started! :(
truly
rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 15, 2012, 02:25:50 AM
1 small step forward for us with  honourable PMMG4HYBRID
Solenoid Driven Repulsion Motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7iHqMVkuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7iHqMVkuc)
testbed on old HDD:)

Dear PMMG4HYBRID THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SUPPORT!
We are starting this simple motor model construction!Soon you will see OU on it!
Easy and cheap, grate "toy"!
Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 19, 2012, 02:09:13 AM
We (Armenian team) have got new setup, its better one based to our tests and observation, use it free guys.
soon we will finish our HHD micro pulse rotor completely, working on the micro solenoid efficiency.Trying to drive it and energize from HDD 3-phase
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0m898x
scaled to 1:1 drawing to print at A4  http://www.sendspace.com/file/elkcj4 (PDF)
don't try to scale it to bigger one - it will not work!Otherwise you need to find new setup with diff. magnets.Just leave spiral and work on it at new scale.
We almost sure it can support other types of magnets(not tested) - ,just keep logic.
We are very happy that can help community with our new research works to get this fast running new setup "toy"
Thanks to honourable Mr. PMMG4HYBRID for fresh idea for us & probably for all of us!!!
Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 19, 2012, 05:44:51 PM
We focused and stop on this construction of actuators with built in magnets.
For such pulse rotor we will make such actuator from 10x2mm Neo tablet
Going to feed it with 100mv 100ma and see what force in Kg we can get from such small amount of power
concept drawing http://www.sendspace.com/file/mzak6k
Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 20, 2012, 02:32:10 AM
Our works in progress, actuator developed at cad.
We just want to show its internal parts and motion logic. It is the most efficient part.We refused to use general solenoids as far they do not have relevant speed of acting and not efficient. Our baby pulse rotor at HDD going to turn as fast as it is possible.
Next info will come after results. Tomorrow good day to start fabrication works at my lab - we are going to see  this baby girl full power to get OU:)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/brz6n9 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/brz6n9)

Truly
Rob
Armenia Team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 21, 2012, 01:13:47 AM
We made test of HDD RPMs and get bad results, HDD can not support even such small pulse rotor actuator power.HDD need high RPMs to reach relevant power output to support actuator needs.
http://s7.postimage.org/6ny96d96j/hdd_A_rpm_dep_549ma_3630rpm.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/fxdaiw3sn/hdd_v_rpm_dep_4390mv_5070rpm.jpg
Bad result also results.We will start up actuator from batt, count the output at RPM's and then will make relevant multi pole magnetic small genset.
Furthermore, such actuator able to support 2 pulse rotors and we are going to use such benefit that can give as possibility to use 1 fast small diameter turning pulse rotor-genset to support both rotors running timing only for 1 actuator power dl cap charging  and next, slow running and powerful big diameter pulse rotor and its diff.genset to charge LiPO batts in such need,
Hope we will get result with 1 to 7 actuator gear reduction (7 routines actuator dl cap charging rotor and 1 routine for main genset rotor to chardge external and disconected from system feed batt to reach OU)
Moreover bidirectional actiator can supports its own relevant small BEMF, remember? shaking torch light construction? So its otside magnet on shaft will move magnet that will add energy to its DL CAP's.Actuallly we want to develop smart system that can "see" load of main rotor to drive it fasteer when load going up and slower - when load at main rotor going down. I dont know how it is in English sorry in Russian its is Обратная отрицательна и положительна связь.Such system will be able to drive main rotor at max stable RPMs with and without load on the end.
And in the end - system will support the crash of small magnet rotor magnets by its main rotor batt power that will be conected automaticalli to the brushless small PWM motor to run small rotor. At such crash system will switch on alarm to call "personel" to change small magnet heart to new one:) etc.....
In one word it is Tirer-4 Redundancy 2N+1.System have only 1 narrow bottleneck point - main bidirectional actuator mechanics that will beating very fast
We will see what we can squeeze form such system.We don't know if such binary pulse rotor +actuator systems concept already alive....We think - Only steam engine close more or less to this explaned concept with its 2 diff. sise pistons - yes/no?
We like such system Redundancy:)
Unic magnet-electrical  actuator fabication works at full progress.
And again grate thx to honourable Mr.PMMG4HYBRID for such perfect idea to us about single pulse rotor!
New Idea came to us from human nature - human has heart and it is beating fast to move big heavy body based on 1 general brain named here as actuator!
Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 23, 2012, 01:19:14 AM
Our team split on two to get max effectiveness in project time and this gave us more result.We have got new rotor pulsing way - from top.
It's better that 1 side pulsing one because using already 2 poles at the same time and we can use full magnetics spins force.
see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXaoWftdTEY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXaoWftdTEY)
Now our future actuator can hold 2 small and fast magnetic rotors at the same time to get max possible Redundancy:)
we are very excited to see it in action by hands we are making in this rotor 960 rpm, imagine full rotor mechanic synchronization speed? we can't...
Actuator fabrication works still in progress.
Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: e2matrix on February 23, 2012, 06:02:13 AM
Arrow, after watching your video I saw some strong similarities in some of your design to a magnet motor I was looking at again tonight from a document I found a while back.  I think it stands a very good possibility of being a self runner and not that hard to build.  It's got detailed specs even with blueprints.  I'll try to attach it here.  It's 4 small .PDF documents all about the same FE motor.   I have not seen this around the Internet much at all.  It also seems similar to the Wang Shum Ho motor here : http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator  but the last I heard this had been locked up in some way that he can't move forward with producing  it for sale.  His units were said to be capable of making 1 to 5 kilowatts from what appears to be a small unit less than a foot in diameter.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 23, 2012, 11:01:39 AM
Arrow, after watching your video I saw some strong similarities in some of your design to a magnet motor I was looking at again tonight from a document I found a while back.  I think it stands a very good possibility of being a self runner and not that hard to build.  It's got detailed specs even with blueprints.  I'll try to attach it here.  It's 4 small .PDF documents all about the same FE motor.   I have not seen this around the Internet much at all.  It also seems similar to the Wang Shum Ho motor here : http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator)  but the last I heard this had been locked up in some way that he can't move forward with producing  it for sale.  His units were said to be capable of making 1 to 5 kilowatts from what appears to be a small unit less than a foot in diameter.

 Thx e2matrix for proper evaluation of video & blueprints., but we are going to built and construct only the motors that are possible to construct based ob existing magnets in market. If we will put our heads up from window and order somewhere such spiral ones then everybody will understand what we are going to do and never will support us in our orders or put very high price that will never cover motor profit. Nobody is able to lock up things that are producing in small amounts and spread in country as technology for personal copy. Such scenario only has possibility finally to wakeup eyes and interest of very reach people to start their own "workshop" to earn money and put it on line mass production. When this will happen I will become most happy man as far as such motors will be on sale not from us engineers but professional sales man. Engineers shall not take advantage to put their nose to sale or production; everyone has to do the job that can do in professional way. Even if I am PMP and know a lot how to run complex tech projects I am not salesman and will never be involved to this last part.

All history that I had read about inventors who had try to built and sale magnetic motors was finished that inventor locked up to jail because they thought that they are very talented and can do job alone in time and do not share with others the cake:)Thanks, this is not our way we will do all this in the other way based on bad experience of others. We are not greedy we can wait until this motor will take its place in market in proper way. When you are asking reach man – “please give me credits” – they are asking 1K tone papers to be sure , but when you are collapsing huge world on the head of reach man from every possible sides he is starting survivals procedures and at this stage he do not see possibility but to start its own business to have his own cake until all others did not get market:) and here Very good competition  starting for more good motors and goods because already not engineers asking credits but reach man wants him self to become more reach. This is the weakest point of reach guys brain, they can not stand with when some one making more money than himself and it is not possible to control as far as  it as new flu virus took most of the people. When you know the disease as doctor you know how to treat or kill patient :)

Hope this message also reading reach guys, so Guys be prepared to see flu new virus at the time when you will never know or start good and positive negotiation with us Engineers until all of us not get crazy to release the beast!Stop producing papers, start works to have this sweet cake!
truly
rob
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Post by: Arrow on February 23, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
The Important actuator cylinder ready and passed my quality control of internal surface where magnetic bidirectional piston must move very fast and with almost zero friction,we made some changes in concept drawing that shown above as far as before actuators drawing we never knew that it is possible to drive rotor from top. It brings us a lot of energetic benefits to run actuator at less current.That is why total diameter of device raised to keep it at must efficiency. Now I like how painted steel is shining inside:)
http://s18.postimage.org/tope4c1w9/act_cilinder_ready.jpg (http://s18.postimage.org/tope4c1w9/act_cilinder_ready.jpg)
http://s18.postimage.org/eca8o1s49/act_cilinder_ready2.jpg (http://s18.postimage.org/eca8o1s49/act_cilinder_ready2.jpg)
Truly
Rob
Armenia Team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 24, 2012, 09:26:27 AM
Arrow, after watching your video I saw some strong similarities in some of your design to a magnet motor I was looking at again tonight from a document I found a while back.  I think it stands a very good possibility of being a self runner and not that hard to build.  It's got detailed specs even with blueprints.  I'll try to attach it here.  It's 4 small .PDF documents all about the same FE motor.   I have not seen this around the Internet much at all.  It also seems similar to the Wang Shum Ho motor here : http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator)  but the last I heard this had been locked up in some way that he can't move forward with producing  it for sale.  His units were said to be capable of making 1 to 5 kilowatts from what appears to be a small unit less than a foot in diameter.

Dear e2matrix Grate thx for drawings! My math guys conformed its math. Soon new blueprints of same but with general magnets will be published here. We need some time to swallow all possible magnets shapes at market and make estimations to get best price and the best construction based on estimations.
E2Matrix You are gold man! you are not e2matrix  - you are E=MC2 = 0.111 x 300,000,000 x 300,000,000
= 10,000,000,000,000,000 Joules
God bless You FOREVER!!!That was the last drop that we need!!!

Our pulse rotor magnets setup what is running from top different  from drawings Sir. Your published drawing setup is close to this video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-QZFm3sZc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-QZFm3sZc)

We do not have other comments! Perfect!

Hugs
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 24, 2012, 12:07:06 PM
Our last test with our rotor - top magnet 2 pole cylinder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQReVEs8zAs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQReVEs8zAs)

Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 24, 2012, 04:35:53 PM
Some job progress at the process of actuator piston creation.Part become hot, need to cool down, coffee time:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oI9chNm00Y
1/2 of piston ready to go under the dividing head to get magnets buried regions and piston chamber air compensating injectors holes, otherwise it will get real air compression that's able to create friction and relevant acting speed will be shuts down to unknown.
Here is the video what I mean, this is wrong behavior of actuator piston, there is air compression on chamber  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4uWmBuaUDU
ready part here, further works on progress
http://s58.radikal.ru/i160/1202/9a/50b0f436623f.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/1202/04/1169283e4db8.jpg
Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: billaynes on February 26, 2012, 01:02:11 PM
What about a 10000 year old Minoan magnet motor, that supposedly is not what it’s supposed to be?

http://www.explorecrete.com/archaeology/Malia-Palace/07_Malia_kernos_EN.html

There are also some ruins of the same… oytside the temple of Hephaestus in Athens Greece and some strange… vessels nearby there, such as these.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm

What do you think?
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 26, 2012, 03:58:28 PM
Historical numerous proves that aliens had visit Earth and had war between its atlants race to get gold from our planet to save temporally their collapsing planet form heat of local star(SUN) Ha:) and our Grand Grand N times Pa's call them God's :) That is why I wish to e2matrix - God bless You FOREVER!!!
Nothing else :) Dear billaynes this is tech forum you are kindly asked to be more specific, please!.We are trying to recall all our hi tech knowledge here that was lost in centuries to survive and live in peace. Can you help us?
For good bats that can be reachared by open fire I can recommend you 1878y invention of German guy It is produsing 0.78volts 1 cellCurrent depends to Cu surface, as much as it is big that much high current.
Components:
Glass or ceramic small cup
NaOH - 1.29
Cu
Zn
By heating on the open fire the Cu plates by it Oxide when cool down
Cu Oxide creates power with Zn in NaOH
Recharge Cu on fire and plate it with new portion of Oxide and it will generate power again until cupper will not vanish in fire:)
I have done it when Armenia had tuff energetic crisis from 1992-1996, We had only 1 hour per day the AC power and very pure one by its quality.
I swear to my self to fight as warrior with tuff knowledge base against of such situations at all my life until will not get solution! Now I am the way and nothing will be able to disconnect my systems thats provides the power and heat to my people and nation!

Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: e2matrix on February 27, 2012, 12:47:57 AM
Arrow,  Thanks for the comments and blessings :)   Based on one statement in your message above I would like to clarify one or two things.  I may have misunderstood what your were saying but it sounded like you think the spiral shaped pieces are magnetic.  Since these blueprints and the associated douments are not mine I may be wrong but I understood the documents to say that the flat spiral shaped cutouts were iron or steel.  The author of the doucment said: " be sure not to use magnetic metals besides the iron spiral plates so it won’t interfere with the magnetic pull."  So I am fairly sure his meaning is that you do NOT want any metal or iron in holding things together or near the magnets (nothing that would be attracted by a magnet) since that would throw off the attraction of the spiral plates to the magnets.  To clarify his statement said 'besides' when actually it should have said 'beside' or near.  His statement was slightly misleading in that in the strict English interpretation you might think that nothing should be magnetic except the spiral plates BUT I am sure that would be wrong to interpret it that way.  So if you did think the spiral plates need to be magnets this would wrong.  The only magnets in this project are flat bar magnets in the middle of the unit.  Even though the document and blueprints were made by someone in America that is English speaking (as I recall from some other discussion) there are many little nuances and ways to misinterpret things written in English and sometimes just the addition of a single letter like 's' can change the whole meaning or leave it open to several interpretations.  Other languages like German tend to be more precise and leave much less to the readers interpretation.  Anyway I just wanted to make sure you didn't spend a lot of money on spiral magnets as I am quite sure that is not needed.  I am sure it is simply the attraction of the magnets to iron that does the work in this motor.   Best of luck with your project! 
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 27, 2012, 01:34:12 AM
Best of luck with your project!
Thanks again, we will try both combinations because in the topic about V-gate drum rotor ( Roberto 33, if you know this story) one of good engineers from US had try ferrite insted of magnets on V-shape  and got negative result.I had personal contact with man and I am  100% sure in this info!
The most important key in drawing is shift angle between the spiral gaps! That's the gold point of construction, why? Have you seen the video with 4 line dram rotor that is spinning?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-QZFm3sZc we had try it, it was 22degree shift between the 3angle magnet lines  and both sides was magnets. We have got result but low energy, now new drawing telling us new angle 32 degree shift and its seem to be true because there are 11 lines !Math model telling us - more power there is.Probably it is coming from 11 lines, we don't know, we will see... BTW your comment about restriction of using in rotor metal bolts etc is absolute true!
We are very close to know true construction because of you dear e2matrix! We Bless you again and again!Thanks!We wish you long productive life, happines, sun, blue sky and strong health at all your life!
Sorry for my English
Truly
Rob
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: e2matrix on February 27, 2012, 03:24:16 AM
Thanks again Rob.   Blessings to you and your team too!  Glad the document I shared lead you to that angle which I hope is the magic angle. I understand now about the 11 lines and the 32.72 degree angle.  11 x 32.72 = full circle or ~ 360 degrees.  I think it is interesting the author of that document found that 1/11 th of a circle to be the best angle to use.  I think there is magic in the number 11 ;)   I look forward to hearing of your successes.   
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on February 27, 2012, 09:42:34 AM
  I look forward to hearing of your successes.

Until we will not finish first pulse actuator type magnet rotor  we will not switch to new one.As many magnet rotor options that can function with pretty good OU that will be better for everyone:)
High Performance Bidirectional Actuator piston (HPBAp) after dividing head drilling is here http://s017.radikal.ru/i437/1202/1f/8c4c996dbc87.jpg (http://s017.radikal.ru/i437/1202/1f/8c4c996dbc87.jpg)
BTW, Here is one of mine desk books about theoretical electro-chemistry http://www.sendspace.com/file/6j4fht it is on Russian, sorry:(
We have here many Armenians from former Soviet who are living in US and Europe, so they can use it in need.Hope they did not forgot language.
Truly,
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 02, 2012, 11:48:50 AM
We have got interesting results about Neo magnet energy, see attached
http://s003.radikal.ru/i203/1203/45/ca697a2e0a09.gif (http://s003.radikal.ru/i203/1203/45/ca697a2e0a09.gif)
Neo magnets H43 can hold 342000Joule/m^3 energy.
So, this is H43 magnets max energy  as input.
You can calculate your magnets volume on cubic meters and compare 342000Joule to yours Neo magnets volume results.
We don't have English language base calculation, only Russian, sorry.
We can share here Russian type. Is that OK?
Truly
Rob
Armenia Team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: gyulasun on March 02, 2012, 12:49:49 PM
Hi Rob,

Yes I think it is better to see it in Russian than not seeing it at all,  especially if its text is not in a picture file but in a pdf or doc or txt file to be able to use translator software.   ;)

Thanks for you and your team for all the efforts so far.

Greetings,  Gyula



We have got interesting results about Neo magnet energy, see attached
http://s003.radikal.ru/i203/1203/45/ca697a2e0a09.gif (http://s003.radikal.ru/i203/1203/45/ca697a2e0a09.gif)
Neo magnets H43 can hold 342000Joule/m^3 energy.
So, this is magnets max energy input.
We don't have English language base calculation, only Russian, sorry.
We can share here Russian type. Is that OK?
Truly
Rob
Armenia Team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 02, 2012, 01:05:55 PM
Hi Rob,

Yes I think it is better to see it in Russian than not seeing it at all,  especially if its text is not in a picture file but in a pdf or doc or txt file to be able to use translator software.   ;)

Thanks for you and your team for all the efforts so far.

Greetings,  Gyula
Ok Gyula, good,I need some time to execute request, now I am at works place, Need to meet guys in the evening.After team metting, I will prepare new post here.
Where are you from? :)

BTW it will become very much good try for our team to get audit of our calculations and method of measurements that provide us all this fan:)
Truly
Rob
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: gyulasun on March 02, 2012, 01:52:02 PM
Hi Rob,

I cannot claim I will be good in those calculations lol  just thought it surely helps many lurkers here.
I sent you a PM.

Greetings,  Gyula
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 02, 2012, 05:53:13 PM
Hi Rob,

I cannot claim I will be good in those calculations lol  just thought it surely helps many lurkers here.
I sent you a PM.

Greetings,  Gyula
На основании огромного уважения к Венгерскому народу и к Христианам всего мира Выкладываем обещанное часть наших научных работ на все общее обозрение. Мы умеем делиться самым святым если это надо людям!
   ÐžÐ³Ñ€Ð¾Ð¼Ð½Ð¾Ðµ спасибо Администрации Форума за выделенный ресурс где мы можем открытo и бескорыстно делиться и помогать своим возможным потенциалом фундаментальных знаний всем людям планеты в священном деле защиты наших семей в дни трудностей, которые нам еще предстоит пережить.Мы надеемся что наш труд как-то поможет вам друзья.
   Ð‘удьте Счастливы, успехов вам во всех делах и в жизни, голубого и мирного вам неба с чистым горным воздухом в нем!
Мы, горцы, старая нация нам 2791 год, и мы любим мир!
Но в войне в защиту наших семей мы самые страшные, беспощадные звери.
Передайте это тем кто не знает Армян - тем кто пытается на нас пойти войной!
Мы умеем прощать, но до каких-то пределов, ненавидим лживых и эгоистичных людей которые живут ради только денег и наживы ради наживы!
Планете надо люди - созидайте добро и любовь друг для друга!

Огромная просьба люди - Никогда не используйте наш мозговой потенциал во благо войны на планете - иначе мы все будем наказаны Отцом небесным.

Нельзя воевать люди, надо всегда жить в мире, в любви и в согласии!
Простите нас горстку сумашедших Армян которые только недавно узнали о такой машине.
Знали бы раньше - раньше и помогли бы вам всем и себе своим знаниями ради создания такой граали!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hwv5mx (http://www.sendspace.com/file/hwv5mx)

Sorry for russian message, translate it please.

Truly
Rob
Armenia Team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 02, 2012, 06:31:10 PM
And a little works progress report
Test bed Genset with ceramic polished ballbearing - ready on 100% , it has sophisticated micro PC control, we are not able to open its construction, sorry( PCB closed), we need to see what is happening at the end of pulse magnet motor really. Armenia always & still has power in microelectronics and software & hardware design.
Test bed bidirectional low power magnetic actuator - ready on 80%
All works at full throttle.We don't like games:) But we like to win games. :)
http://s7.postimage.org/o5epx3ryz/actuator_and_genset_for_testbed.jpg (http://s7.postimage.org/o5epx3ryz/actuator_and_genset_for_testbed.jpg)

Truly
Rob
Armenia team
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 03, 2012, 11:00:35 PM
New calculated liner mag motor test bed soon it will be ready.
We had used general steel balls and neo to shift the pole.This is our first try with such magnets and setup with steel balls
http://s16.postimage.org/q53jpnllh/new_liner_mag_motor_test_bed.jpg (http://s16.postimage.org/q53jpnllh/new_liner_mag_motor_test_bed.jpg)
We are going  to construct also mag motor rotor without actuator activity.
We will see what we can do. We love liner algebra :)
To see and learn how we are printing scaled cad drawings on to EPP hard foam take this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwxKE63QkMI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwxKE63QkMI)
All possible and not possible technologies will work to help us in the way of creation of power grail! No exceptions!

Guys, we don't have much time to check up if such structure with shifting magnetic pole by balls existing in patents of the world.
Is there anybody who can help us with prototype patent finding with downloading link to doc to see it?
Any similar construction of such structure?
Thanks in advance for help!

Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: gyulasun on March 04, 2012, 12:24:31 AM
Hi Rob,

Here are some info on magnets working point explanations, calculations and software
http://www.permagsoft.com/english/html/theory.html (http://www.permagsoft.com/english/html/theory.html)    This firm is German.

Also here http://www.magnetsales.com/Design/DesignG.htm (http://www.magnetsales.com/Design/DesignG.htm)  and while it is sure you and your team can tackle such problems (the pdf file [Demagnetization and energy of permanent magnets] you kindle translated from Russian to English reveals this) I think reading over such explanations may reveal something useful (excluding calculation error what I do not suppose).  :)

Gyula
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 04, 2012, 12:49:50 AM
Hi Rob,

Here are some info on magnets working point explanations, calculations and software
http://www.permagsoft.com/english/html/theory.html (http://www.permagsoft.com/english/html/theory.html)    This firm is German.

Also here http://www.magnetsales.com/Design/DesignG.htm (http://www.magnetsales.com/Design/DesignG.htm)  and while it is sure you and your team can tackle such problems (the pdf file [Demagnetization and energy of permanent magnets] you kindle translated from Russian to English reveals this) I think reading over such explanations may reveal something useful (excluding calculation error what I do not suppose).  :)

Gyula
Dear Gyula thank you very much for info!really grate! You had add for me ( especially) a new huge part of headache:)) Now I have to read all that docs, I can not pass them out without reading and better understanding,this damm science in Russia high school not explore static magnet theory deep for us in time, Nobody knew that magnets so powerful thing may be except military etc... we all knew about pole, dissociation's etc deep, but never look to the side of such perfect usage of it because our "teacher" told us "nobody can do that" and we hold in respect his opinion and forget about magnets for next 30 years:)))))))))I had use magnets as hooks, now magnets hooks up me totally, looks like revenge of "guys" :) ))
<(excluding calculation error what I do not suppose).> did you find errors in our analytic doc? I did not understand your expression well, sorry :(

btw have you ever saw such setup and mag fields like sinwave? :)
http://s14.postimage.org/s29glpr0h/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup_sinwave_fields.jpg (http://s14.postimage.org/s29glpr0h/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup_sinwave_fields.jpg)
http://s16.postimage.org/y2r4c89at/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup.jpg (http://s16.postimage.org/y2r4c89at/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup.jpg)

do u like it? :) )) do u understand why magnets hooks up me totally, it looks like revenge of "guys" :) )) ??? ?

i had never can even imagine that static poles can have in and out line,this was crazy for me...
unfortunately my good friend and teacher dead and i am not able to show him my new results with magnets to cancel his words... ehh ehh, I missed him... if he will be able to participate in this war with magnets we will winn the game in weeks...he had brilliant brain indeed!

I am sorry for offtop...

Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 04, 2012, 11:23:28 AM
 Here is interesting article regarding topic main story and meaning.
http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/jap/masterprinciple.htm (http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/jap/masterprinciple.htm)
All in one cup as we usually saying in Russian:)
Guess someone was very sad and did not celebrate New Year at 1995.
It was published in December 31, 1995 :)
I don't know why we are here recreating bicycles if it is already done by Japanese in 1995 :) )))))))))))))))))))

Crazy:) Looks like someone want to know who else can do the same and where this "same" coming up in years.
Ok then , now everybody know - except US , Armenia also included to this technology "Know How" :)
Good markup:)
Why  need patents? This is good info to those who want to remake patents - No way guys :)

Guess Gov Dad's has to jump from large open window to stop this technology:)
Им придется порвать свои зады капитально чтоб остановить это дело сейчас:)

Truly
Rob
Armenia team

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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: gyulasun on March 04, 2012, 01:04:06 PM

<(excluding calculation error what I do not suppose).> did you find errors in our analytic doc? I did not understand your expression well, sorry :(   

 Hi Rob,
 
 No, I did not mean there is any calculation error  in the analysis and if I find one later I will tell you.

 
 
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btw have you ever saw such setup and mag fields like sinwave? :)
http://s14.postimage.org/s29glpr0h/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup_sinwave_fields.jpg (http://s14.postimage.org/s29glpr0h/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup_sinwave_fields.jpg)
http://s16.postimage.org/y2r4c89at/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup.jpg (http://s16.postimage.org/y2r4c89at/Harword_Jonson_magnet_setup.jpg)

do u like it? :) )) do u understand why magnets hooks up me totally, it looks like revenge of "guys" :) )) ??? ?


 Yes, somewhere I have already seen this "snake-like" picture via the green viewer sheet but at the moment I cannot recall where...   Very interesting indeed  and unfortunately there are many magnet tricks magnetic properties we do not yet know.
 
 Thanks,  Gyula
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 04, 2012, 01:48:49 PM
We are going to reach resonance to get max BEMF from the motor structure partial prototype that developed by PMMG4HYBRID
here is the block diagram how we are going to reach the goal.
http://s14.postimage.org/4klb05dzl/EMF_BEMF.jpg (http://s14.postimage.org/4klb05dzl/EMF_BEMF.jpg)
Even too many tasks can not overload us guys, soon we will get all results that calculated.
We are in good multy testings.

Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 04, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
if I find one later I will tell you.

Thanks dear  Gyula we really appreciate your help!

Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 04, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
Some details about new setup. Top magnet cartride under the fabrication.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/574pb1 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/574pb1)

Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 07, 2012, 12:14:43 AM
info
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDeefrh4DSc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDeefrh4DSc)
and 1 farad
comparison with rechargeable AA batteries http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rVC0IvT63w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rVC0IvT63w)

and future motor fabrication tool prototype  is here, you will be able to fabricate your motor by Inet by loading your designed motor 3d parts stl files or other guys works from library to our robust server in Armenia huge data centers  and get on-line printing with future mail posting to your countries as toy parts:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Cg9R4WOZA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Cg9R4WOZA)
We love this fresh on-line robust production concept. Near is powerfull, non stop Future that is already at the back door of us and knocking it very energetic guys!
A part of our guys already busy with real load testings to understand the scope of data center future load capacity.
http://i064.radikal.ru/1203/87/aa3f5f8dc0b3.jpg (http://i064.radikal.ru/1203/87/aa3f5f8dc0b3.jpg)
http://s41.radikal.ru/i091/1203/14/3bf4a637d078.jpg (http://s41.radikal.ru/i091/1203/14/3bf4a637d078.jpg)
http://i072.radikal.ru/1203/98/bd27ea017270.jpg (http://i072.radikal.ru/1203/98/bd27ea017270.jpg)
http://s004.radikal.ru/i206/1203/c5/d3ecbbd04686.jpg (http://s004.radikal.ru/i206/1203/c5/d3ecbbd04686.jpg)

This is Armenia Android's OS Tigers jump power and we love to serve you with all of our programmers power of mind to resolve the green power problem for ever!
This is just the start guys, just the start!  You will be able to activate motor printing even from your Iphones or IPads!
We dont need Nobel prize, we need green planet and peace!
truly
rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 08, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
Info - New Microbial Fuel Cells

While we are playing with magnets microbial fuel cells could turn sewage plants into power plants that can generate 0.9 kilowatt-hours of electricity per kilogram of organic waste :) The Planet shit just hit the fan for Oil companies :)

http://gizmodo.com/5891157/new-microbial-fuel-cells-could-turn-sewage-plants-into-power-plants (http://gizmodo.com/5891157/new-microbial-fuel-cells-could-turn-sewage-plants-into-power-plants)
Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 08, 2012, 01:08:06 PM
First steps on CNC production line for motor fabrication - task and goal - good router
This is our CNC major router, still under the construction and adjustments
This guy going to take first Tigers hit to product first in Armenia 3D printers
http://s017.radikal.ru/i425/1203/14/863a7d1c0e53.jpg (http://s017.radikal.ru/i425/1203/14/863a7d1c0e53.jpg)
truly
rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: broli on March 08, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
First steps on CNC production line for motor fabrication - task and goal - good router
This is our CNC major router, still under the construction and adjustments
This guy going to take first Tigers hit to product first in Armenia 3D printers
http://s017.radikal.ru/i425/1203/14/863a7d1c0e53.jpg (http://s017.radikal.ru/i425/1203/14/863a7d1c0e53.jpg)
truly
rob
Armenia team
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It's more wise and less risk full to first have a working prototype than to get ahead of yourself. How far ahead in % from completion are you with the current prototype?
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 08, 2012, 01:37:19 PM
It's more wise and less risk full to first have a working prototype than to get ahead of yourself. How far ahead in % from completion are you with the current prototype?
Hi, sorry I did not get the question :(
<How far ahead in % from completion>
of what part of project?
PMMG4HYBRID magnet rotor one? In progress 40%, we area waiting results with test for BEMF resonance.We don't know if PMMG4HYBRID solution has it, but we had find the necessity to research this issue too to get max efficiency.All other parts are clear for us from very good video.
We are going to run many rotors, not only 1. Pulse one 80% ready , waiting CNC parts and DL cap.
Risk - all inventions has the risk to get zero, but this will not stop us as far as there are no such word for us - Zero result, as far as all negative results also 100% answers to change the research route.
Furthermore, we don't have any drop of doubt that this motor is alive, supporting OU same as the prototype one form PMMG4HYBRID
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsGhllSgpLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsGhllSgpLU) These 2 Motors has magnet setup difference that verygood explained by PMMG4HYBRID in YT
Risk of project under the 1% :)
We have only 1 tech risk - to be killed by not good balanced horizontal turning fast and heavy flywheel.Taking a relevant measures to stay alive ;)
If project will be explored only step by step based on physical good results then we will not be able to see motors in near 5 years. This is absolutely not acceptable, only works in net parallel schedule can reach the the positive results in 3-4 months that we have ;)

In other hand team need to stay enthusiastic , so I am not able to say them no, only what I can do as team leader to create good developed time schedule for them to do not over burn their brains! They are running as "OU rotors" to get result and I believe to them as to me.

truly
rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 09, 2012, 01:27:16 PM
While team have rest time in this few hollydays I am doing micro project do not get crazy by doing nothing to compensate CNC absence time loss to wind our test coils for generator etc
Made this "device" in 20 min from lovely hand batt. crewdriver/drill METABO, EPP foam, CA glue, old soviet still ok calculator and magnet sensor from old big laser printer :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9zlUP4-4sc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9zlUP4-4sc)
Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Thaelin on March 10, 2012, 11:04:17 AM
Just kind of wondering, has the original poster design went by the wayside? No more from him
since.

thay
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 10, 2012, 12:48:25 PM
We focused and stop on this construction of actuators with built in magnets.
For such pulse rotor we will make such actuator from 10x2mm Neo tablet
Going to feed it with 100mv 100ma and see what force in Kg we can get from such small amount of power
concept drawing http://www.sendspace.com/file/mzak6k (http://www.sendspace.com/file/mzak6k)
Truly
Rob
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This concept experiment failed, actuator not the right part to work with OU device with inside magnets, too small torque. Coming back to the solenoid construction but double one, with 2 coils, sorry guys, negative answer also answer for us, don't loose time to such device.It is good for PWM controled  sharp angular moving of things but absolutely not efficient device to use in OU device.Probably it shall have steel piston, but not magnet one.Steel piston not tested, and we dont have time to fabricated new steel piston for actuator test.

Just kind of wondering, has the original poster design went by the wayside? No more from him
since.

thay
Dear Thaelin, dose he ever been with us here to went wayside?

Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 13, 2012, 01:32:23 PM
we had find interesting type of magnet generator coils winding shape in one of Russian old patents
going to test it's benefit . it is very close to our calculation based on phi digit.
http://s019.radikal.ru/i616/1203/2f/1515f2c039d5.jpg (http://s019.radikal.ru/i616/1203/2f/1515f2c039d5.jpg)
http://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1203/74/69be99457514.jpg (http://s019.radikal.ru/i644/1203/74/69be99457514.jpg)
and its video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrsYnHJR1Fg

truly
rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 17, 2012, 11:53:01 PM
some simple gen fabrication and HDD ball bearing tests, new coils shape based on phi digit and explaned above low rpm russian patent...
patent gen digitized to understand the size etc and has many tech problems with coils... not good one:)
http://i052.radikal.ru/1203/35/e4eda9d34947.jpg (http://i052.radikal.ru/1203/35/e4eda9d34947.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kzIUBWXXv8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kzIUBWXXv8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIHTmt9K9Sk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIHTmt9K9Sk)

truly
rob
armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 18, 2012, 02:31:31 PM
Jean Bernard Léon Foucault discovered eddy currents and we have its demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS0tkrZZusQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS0tkrZZusQ)
We also think about the applied significance of this effect at home, if in the space between the poles of the rotating strong magnetic disks placed thick-walled copper cylinder filled with water, then heated copper cylinder so that the water boils rapidly. It is interesting to measure the efficiency of the boiler.

truly
rob
Armenia team
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on March 20, 2012, 11:58:02 PM

Hi guys, I have got video block from YT administration of this motor video replication and what is the most strange I have got blocked video of my own magnet degradation tool experiment that was started in Oct 27 for 1 year.
I took new video with fresh results regarding the demonstration tool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLj7tjGqTCE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLj7tjGqTCE)
Here the evidence screen shot that YT blocking V-gate motors videos
http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1203/5c/975970d2934c.jpg (http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1203/5c/975970d2934c.jpg)
Here the explanation that I have got from YT after video blocking
Regarding V-gate Rooberto 33 video :Информация о Вашем аккаунте MrArrow1961Участники сообщества YouTube отметили одно или несколько из ваших видео как неприемлемые. Отмеченные видео проверяются командой YouTube на предмет нарушения принципов сообщества. После рассмотрения следующих видео мы пришли к выводу, что в них содержатся материалы, нарушающие наши принципы. Список отключенных видео:Магнитный мотор на  неодимовых 64   3 магнитахПодробную информацию о принципах сообщества YouTube и их соблюдении можно узнать в справочном центре: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=92486 (http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=92486).С уважением,Коллектив YouTube

Regarding my own tool video notification:
Информация о Вашем аккаунте MrArrow1961
Участники сообщества YouTube отметили одно или несколько из ваших видео как неприемлемые. Отмеченные видео проверяются командой YouTube на предмет нарушения принципов сообщества. После рассмотрения следующих видео мы пришли к выводу, что в них содержатся материалы, нарушающие наши принципы. Список отключенных видео:
Инструмент для срав. измерения деградации магнитов
Подробную информацию о принципах сообщества YouTube и их соблюдении можно узнать в справочном центре: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=92486 (http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=92486).
С уважением,Коллектив YouTube

Guess Google getting crazy! I will try by my all power of telecom guy to find the person who stop this videos as far as Google has their servers at our Data Center  and we have formal relations with its administration.
I will keep you informed what is going on with google.
If someone from this forum know exactly and formally what is going on then you are kindly asked to explane the real reason - why this videos was blocked?
I will find the true in any way as Telecom guy the man who was done it. But first I want to know this forum community confession, declaration as far as only place where video share was here!

Dear Stefan, you have here not good guys I think, please start works with filtration of such crazy users!!!
I will do my best!Some one going to play games with real fire here, I will fnd the Man! Keep going guys! Do your next moves!

Stefan, sorry we are stopping our team participiation in this forum - not secure place!

Regards & Truly
Rob
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: timaleric on April 09, 2012, 05:39:52 AM
I don't know. Before trying to figure out exactly how this machine works, I'm wondering why he said "Is this over unity or not? I'll let you decide" Why doesn't he say it is or isn't. If I had something over unity I would be yelling it from the highest hill. I couldn't wait to get on to the next test to show off my find. I could think of all kind of interesting tests to prove what I have. Where are the follow up videos or even better credible verification from someone. I'm tired of things that are shrouded in mystery and self discovery. I challenge this guy to give us solid proof of concept. How many people here have tried to duplicate the Mike motor or the Romero motor or how many others? The Stargate Motor? Come on. You can't just slap magnets around the outside of a DC motor anywhere you want without knowing exact timing by position as well as manyother things and expect to see results. Not to mention the outside steel of the case is a form of keeper and will let very little trough to the other side.  Has anyone ever built a Stargate motor? Sorry guys this all looks to familiar to me. The only thing missing here so far is instructions or a DVD for sale.
John H
 
...
john
 it looks like a hammel spinner with a kick at gate @ a 3 phase generator
at frist glance that what i though it was
guy-timaleric
 
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Arrow on April 09, 2012, 09:39:59 AM
I don't know. Before trying to figure out exactly how this machine works, I'm wondering why he said "Is this over unity or not? I'll let you decide" Why doesn't he say it is or isn't. If I had something over unity I would be yelling it from the highest hill. I couldn't wait to get on to the next test to show off my find. I could think of all kind of interesting tests to prove what I have. Where are the follow up videos or even better credible verification from someone. I'm tired of things that are shrouded in mystery and self discovery. I challenge this guy to give us solid proof of concept. How many people here have tried to duplicate the Mike motor or the Romero motor or how many others? The Stargate Motor? Come on. You can't just slap magnets around the outside of a DC motor anywhere you want without knowing exact timing by position as well as manyother things and expect to see results. Not to mention the outside steel of the case is a form of keeper and will let very little trough to the other side.  Has anyone ever built a Stargate motor? Sorry guys this all looks to familiar to me. The only thing missing here so far is instructions or a DVD for sale.
John H

Hi dear John H
 what is the Stargate Motor in the circuit? What do you think? Last video that I have seen show to me that magnetic coil was disconnected and Stargate Motor took all functionality of magnetic Wankel motor. I dont think that Stargate Motor is something that we have to discuss here... this is just tech measure to bypass magnetic coil... There are 100 ways to bypass that coil, so? Why we have to keep our attention of focus to Stargate Motor? Stargate Motor is something artificial for me as for power systems engineer. BUT, the concept of all Mike's fabricated magnetic motor - not artificial thing! This is the main thing for me personally.Mike not a man who need DVD sale!
 BTW up to now I don’t understand why in main magnetic 3 phase generator of Mike's motor are used  12 coils and 16 magnets if coils can have same number of magnets 16. If we are using DC current from alternator why we have to keep on focus phase number of alternatior? So,It can be 3 +n with full rectifing...Furthermore I don’t know used shape of magnets and coils but can say 1 important thing here they have to be 3 angle coils and same shape magnets to get max performance from non classic alternator that do not have metal in coils.  Mean time I am building 16 magnet ,16 coils alternator to test current output and its sinwave factor. All cogging test with it passed succesfully = ZERO with zero load!! Here is my works progress to construct alternator - the heart of COP magnetic motor.
I am not looking to overunity, I am fabricating model of new magnetic  motor to have magnetic conversion of energy to kinetic.What I will get on output I will calculate easy as far as I know what energy in Joule I have at input from magnetic motor.

Sorry for my English...
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i635/1204/4a/bbe9c8945253.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i635/1204/4a/bbe9c8945253.jpg)
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i604/1204/38/5cea642108d6.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i604/1204/38/5cea642108d6.jpg)
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i609/1204/48/4fd525106692.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i609/1204/48/4fd525106692.jpg)
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i638/1204/2c/33baaf72d666.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i638/1204/2c/33baaf72d666.jpg)
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i604/1204/ed/2474a22affff.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i604/1204/ed/2474a22affff.jpg)
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i616/1204/fa/f990531e4678.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i616/1204/fa/f990531e4678.jpg)
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i611/1204/48/427829650659.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i611/1204/48/427829650659.jpg)
http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i636/1204/78/33fb2ecb5432.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s019.radikal.ru/i636/1204/78/33fb2ecb5432.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHR7OINd-6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHR7OINd-6I)
Truly
Rob
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: sirdoitall on April 10, 2012, 07:17:35 AM
Thank you so much for posting that video.  It was very enjoyable.

I don't know if this is the best place to post this or not, but I must start somewhere.

I have designed the simplest mechanical 4 Battery Tesla Switch that I know.
Very simple commutator design.  I would like to share it.  Have a look.

sirdoitall
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: 4Tesla on April 10, 2012, 09:09:29 AM
Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: e2matrix on April 11, 2012, 05:45:20 PM
Thank you so much for posting that video.  It was very enjoyable.

I don't know if this is the best place to post this or not, but I must start somewhere.

I have designed the simplest mechanical 4 Battery Tesla Switch that I know.
Very simple commutator design.  I would like to share it.  Have a look.

sirdoitall

Thanks for sharing the design.   Have you tried building this yet?  I think having the transformer (inductive load?) there is an important step. 
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: linoavac on June 14, 2012, 12:20:18 AM
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/magnet_electromag.jpg
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion.jpg



this to SHARE ----- cutting negative magnetism WITH electromagnet (advance)
ELECTROMAGNETIC SHIELD
.
.friends LINOAVAC.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: linoavac on June 14, 2012, 12:23:03 AM
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/magnet_electromag.jpg
http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion.jpg



this to SHARE ----- cutting negative magnetism WITH electromagnet (advance)
ELECTROMAGNETIC SHIELD
.
.friends LINOAVAC.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: sirdoitall on June 14, 2012, 09:16:12 AM
Thanks for sharing the design.   Have you tried building this yet?  I think having the transformer (inductive load?) there is an important step.

e2matrix,
Sorry for the late reply, but no, I have not been able to build it and test it yet.  I seem to be financially stuck, making a living and providing for my wife and children.  I'm either short on time or short on money.  Yet I continually design similar things in my mind, until the day I am able to build them.  In regard to the design that I posted, I really think it will work.  Ideally, I would like to integrate my "radial commutator" design directly into an ~80hp DC motor.  The 12v lead-acid batteries could possibly be replaced by ultra/super capacitors, and placed somewhere within (or on) the motor housing, along with the speed controls and other circuitry.  The result would be a standalone dynamo with no power leads running to it . . . only connections for opening and closing the circuit and for speed control (accelerator).  Now that would make for an awesome motor swap in your car!
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: gyulasun on June 14, 2012, 08:30:27 PM

I have designed the simplest mechanical 4 Battery Tesla Switch that I know.
Very simple commutator design.  I would like to share it.  Have a look.

sirdoitall

Hi sirdoitall,

I edited your drawing to show my question better and that is the output capacitors are connected to the battery negatives of the left and right side battery banks and these negative poles are continuously connected together via the conducting metal area via the brushes.  The blue lines show the battery negative conducting path and the red lines show the positive conducting path and both are the same in both switching sequencies. (The conducting plates with the brushes nicely connect the battery banks either in series or parallel, there is no problem with that.
So where should the output capacitors be really connected to?

Thanks,  Gyula
Title: OPENSOURCE PLAN http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg this is combi
Post by: linoavac on June 15, 2012, 08:34:55 PM
OPENSOURCE PLAN

http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg

this is combination of------electromagnet   +   magnetMotor
.
.
.

LINOAVAC, thanks
HOME; http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Scorch on September 11, 2012, 09:35:04 PM
I think you guys might be interested in this.
I did buy a stargate motor kit and was going to use it as the primary mover for a Muller Dynamo.
But I have, since, changed my mind and plan to build a different design.
So I am now selling the complete stargate motor, complete with motor, stargate conversion bracket, and magnets for $200 less than retail.
I did see a difference in motor performance but, because my magnet supplier didn't have small magnets in grade N52, I don't think it's performing quite as well as it could because the the smaller magnets are about 3% under powered as compared to the larger magnets which are N52.

At any rate, if any of you are interested in such a setup, for far less, see:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150894442898

Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: avalon on October 14, 2012, 07:50:05 PM
I did buy a stargate motor kit...
I cant believe you felt for that. The original video (actually, the whole series of videos) was produced for the sole purpose of selling hugely overpriced parts. This guy is not a researcher and his goal is not to help this community.

I laughed till it started to hurt watching the videos.
I particularly liked dramatic Carl-Sagan-like voice narrating the videos. '..that is a very good question. Can it really charge itself?... .
Translation: ... can I really sell cheap penny parts for big bucks? How many suckers will fall for my videos this time?

I am sorry for your loss and good luck selling it.


 
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: sirdoitall on December 27, 2012, 10:45:23 PM
Hi sirdoitall,

I edited your drawing to show my question better and that is the output capacitors are connected to the battery negatives of the left and right side battery banks and these negative poles are continuously connected together via the conducting metal area via the brushes.  The blue lines show the battery negative conducting path and the red lines show the positive conducting path and both are the same in both switching sequencies. (The conducting plates with the brushes nicely connect the battery banks either in series or parallel, there is no problem with that.
So where should the output capacitors be really connected to?

Thanks,  Gyula

gyulasun,
That is a completely legitimate question.  The capacitors you see in the circuit are "smoothing" caps that act as buffer banks to alternating dynamo (noted by the block on one side of the dielectric).  It took me a while to wrap my mind around this concept as well.  If you study the Tesla 4-battery switch, you will find it is the same scenario.  I've only replaced the switches with a radial commutator.  You have to closely follow the path of the battery leads to see what is occurring.  The battery bank in series is always feeding the battery bank in parallel, so the potential difference coming out of the parallel bank is ~half of the series bank (assuming all batteries hold an equal charge).  Of course, this action alone will only "prolong" battery life, by maintaining the dipole.  Heat losses would still eventually drain the batteries, if it were not for the Back EMF firing back into the batteries, every time the contacts switch back and forth.
It's possible that I misunderstood your question, but I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: gyulasun on December 27, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
Hi sirdoitall,

Thanks for returning to this topic. Yes I am afraid you misundertood my reasonings that led to my question. In fact, as you drew the radial commutator, the brush contacts in Stage 1 and in Stage 2 I indicated in Blue line are always connect the two capacitor's positive ends, no any commutation can take place towards the capacitors.  I mean if you could "test" with an Ohm meter in your drawing the continuity between the two right handside ends of the electrolytic caps (between their two positive legs) you would find an unchanging, continuous conduction (i.e. a short circuit) both in Stage 1 and in Stage 2. This is why I asked where actually the two positive cap ends are connected to?  I hope this explains my question and you could modify your schematics to reflect the correct cap connections.

I wonder if you have had some time to build and test this setup since then? Just curious... 8)

Thanks, Gyula


gyulasun,
That is a completely legitimate question.  The capacitors you see in the circuit are "smoothing" caps that act as buffer banks to alternating dynamo (noted by the block on one side of the dielectric).  It took me a while to wrap my mind around this concept as well.  If you study the Tesla 4-battery switch, you will find it is the same scenario.  I've only replaced the switches with a radial commutator.  You have to closely follow the path of the battery leads to see what is occurring.  The battery bank in series is always feeding the battery bank in parallel, so the potential difference coming out of the parallel bank is ~half of the series bank (assuming all batteries hold an equal charge).  Of course, this action alone will only "prolong" battery life, by maintaining the dipole.  Heat losses would still eventually drain the batteries, if it were not for the Back EMF firing back into the batteries, every time the contacts switch back and forth.
It's possible that I misunderstood your question, but I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Scorch on December 28, 2012, 12:00:43 AM
What loss?

I see no evidence I lost anything including, but not limited to: gaining of knowledge, enjoying the learning from the experiments, increased efficiency, and a tangible substance/hard asset, bartered for a mere IOU (fiat currency), holding its value, on my shelf, while the value of paper promises continues to fall, and I believe no such evidence exists.

You appear to be of the position a ripoff, theft, misrepresentation has occurred.
I see no evidence of any ripoff, theft, or misrepresentation, has occurred or that I 'fell for it' and I believe no such evidence exists.

You're sorry?
I'm not!

What care, I, the goal of another? :)
Would it be ok, with you, if I continue to learn, what I may from others, and continue to strive for success to the best of my ability?

I conditionally accept your position "this guy is not a researcher" on condition you prove, by way of certified documentation authored under penalty of perjury of no less than 10,000.00, this guy, has not, did not, in fact, do any research in order to accomplish the effects in his videos including, but not limited to, a linear motor which, Converts magnetic energy to accelerated motion without an outside power source, and within Newton's law of physics that states: "Force is Equal to Mass Multiplied by Acceleration" (F=MA). And Energy, in physics, is the capacity to do Work or produce a change. Are you of the position the device does NOT do work or produce a change without an external power source?

Should you FAIL to prove your claim then you, by way of silent consent, or failure to produce certified documentation, hereby admit defeat and that you should eat my socks!

}:>

PS:
Please forgive me, for not responding sooner, as I only, just now, discovered these allegations therefore nunc pro tunc is applicable.



I cant believe you felt for that. The original video (actually, the whole series of videos) was produced for the sole purpose of selling hugely overpriced parts. This guy is not a researcher and his goal is not to help this community.

I laughed till it started to hurt watching the videos.
I particularly liked dramatic Carl-Sagan-like voice narrating the videos. '..that is a very good question. Can it really charge itself?... .
Translation: ... can I really sell cheap penny parts for big bucks? How many suckers will fall for my videos this time?

I am sorry for your loss and good luck selling it.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Scorch on December 28, 2012, 04:59:09 PM
What loss? It actually works ok as the primary driver for an earlier version of my Muller dynamo experiments.
See: http://www.overunity.com/3842/muller-dynamo/msg320592/#msg320592

Just not as well as needed for that particular setup which is actually supposed to use its own coils as the primary driver/motor and not an external motor.
It was merely an experimental test. And, in fact, that experimental unit has been completely rebuilt since then.
Here is the latest update and image-
http://www.overunity.com/3842/muller-dynamo/msg348973/#msg348973

As of right now; I never had any intention of attempting to replicate the quanta magnetics "self charging?" version (Modified Howard Johnson ramp) which uses a LOT of magnets and is very expensive to build and is merely a demonstration, proof of concept, unit.

And, since you made this comment back in October, Quanta Magnetics has already moved onto more practical systems. . .
See: www.quantamagnetics.com

}:>




I am sorry for your loss and good luck selling it.
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: drodenbe on January 06, 2013, 03:46:26 PM
Hi guys:

I am new to all this, so I may be in the wrong group.  I am posting this motor design just to contribute a little back as I sure have sucked enough files and data from this site to choke a large horse.  If I posted in the wrong place I would be glad if you could direct me to the correct group. thank you.  I designed this motor after a video I saw of daftmans 3 phase generator.  So I was looking for a good motor with some torque to drive my Kromrey device.  The motor I am using is a 3200 rpm scooter motor and it draws 6 amps while driving the Kromrey generator.  So I built this motor to reduce the current draw and it works well for my experiments. I am currently working on a different motor generator which features this motor and a new design of kromrey which I have tested and works very well.  The unit will be all one and not two individual parts joined with a coupling. This always seams to add vibration to unit.  At least in my experience.  Since mechanical is not my forte.  Thanks again. 
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: Kev on March 13, 2013, 08:20:05 AM
Did he release all his details about his capacitors?
It would be great for self-charging capacitor without any motors, I need everything solid state if possible.   :D
Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
Post by: captainfletcher on May 15, 2014, 02:54:32 PM
Hello;
Why this subject he is here in the Mechanic section? instead of being in "Muller Dynamo"
Anyway, I have great admiration for the work of PMMG4HYBRID and I think the machines are of over-unity.
With the resources that I have, not many tools, I realized a set made ​​of wood.
It remains to establish the coil and the timing system.
I have a question, I need to put a capacitor on the coil?
And what value to be in resonance with the speed?
Thank you for your attention.
Magnetman is me in the forum, there are pictures too.
Here is a link on a French forum:
http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1616&st=0 & # entry49219
Title: Re: OPENSOURCE PLAN http://linoavac.no.sapo.pt/electrorepulsion2.jpg this is combi
Post by: linoavac on February 06, 2015, 02:34:20 AM
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Title: Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
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