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Author Topic: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries  (Read 277193 times)

Arrow

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I don't know. Before trying to figure out exactly how this machine works, I'm wondering why he said "Is this over unity or not? I'll let you decide" Why doesn't he say it is or isn't. If I had something over unity I would be yelling it from the highest hill. I couldn't wait to get on to the next test to show off my find. I could think of all kind of interesting tests to prove what I have. Where are the follow up videos or even better credible verification from someone. I'm tired of things that are shrouded in mystery and self discovery. I challenge this guy to give us solid proof of concept. How many people here have tried to duplicate the Mike motor or the Romero motor or how many others? The Stargate Motor? Come on. You can't just slap magnets around the outside of a DC motor anywhere you want without knowing exact timing by position as well as manyother things and expect to see results. Not to mention the outside steel of the case is a form of keeper and will let very little trough to the other side.  Has anyone ever built a Stargate motor? Sorry guys this all looks to familiar to me. The only thing missing here so far is instructions or a DVD for sale.
John H

Hi dear John H
 what is the Stargate Motor in the circuit? What do you think? Last video that I have seen show to me that magnetic coil was disconnected and Stargate Motor took all functionality of magnetic Wankel motor. I dont think that Stargate Motor is something that we have to discuss here... this is just tech measure to bypass magnetic coil... There are 100 ways to bypass that coil, so? Why we have to keep our attention of focus to Stargate Motor? Stargate Motor is something artificial for me as for power systems engineer. BUT, the concept of all Mike's fabricated magnetic motor - not artificial thing! This is the main thing for me personally.Mike not a man who need DVD sale!
 BTW up to now I don’t understand why in main magnetic 3 phase generator of Mike's motor are used  12 coils and 16 magnets if coils can have same number of magnets 16. If we are using DC current from alternator why we have to keep on focus phase number of alternatior? So,It can be 3 +n with full rectifing...Furthermore I don’t know used shape of magnets and coils but can say 1 important thing here they have to be 3 angle coils and same shape magnets to get max performance from non classic alternator that do not have metal in coils.  Mean time I am building 16 magnet ,16 coils alternator to test current output and its sinwave factor. All cogging test with it passed succesfully = ZERO with zero load!! Here is my works progress to construct alternator - the heart of COP magnetic motor.
I am not looking to overunity, I am fabricating model of new magnetic  motor to have magnetic conversion of energy to kinetic.What I will get on output I will calculate easy as far as I know what energy in Joule I have at input from magnetic motor.

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Thank you so much for posting that video.  It was very enjoyable.

I don't know if this is the best place to post this or not, but I must start somewhere.

I have designed the simplest mechanical 4 Battery Tesla Switch that I know.
Very simple commutator design.  I would like to share it.  Have a look.

sirdoitall

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Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing!

e2matrix

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Thank you so much for posting that video.  It was very enjoyable.

I don't know if this is the best place to post this or not, but I must start somewhere.

I have designed the simplest mechanical 4 Battery Tesla Switch that I know.
Very simple commutator design.  I would like to share it.  Have a look.

sirdoitall

Thanks for sharing the design.   Have you tried building this yet?  I think having the transformer (inductive load?) there is an important step. 

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this to SHARE ----- cutting negative magnetism WITH electromagnet (advance)
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sirdoitall

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Thanks for sharing the design.   Have you tried building this yet?  I think having the transformer (inductive load?) there is an important step.

e2matrix,
Sorry for the late reply, but no, I have not been able to build it and test it yet.  I seem to be financially stuck, making a living and providing for my wife and children.  I'm either short on time or short on money.  Yet I continually design similar things in my mind, until the day I am able to build them.  In regard to the design that I posted, I really think it will work.  Ideally, I would like to integrate my "radial commutator" design directly into an ~80hp DC motor.  The 12v lead-acid batteries could possibly be replaced by ultra/super capacitors, and placed somewhere within (or on) the motor housing, along with the speed controls and other circuitry.  The result would be a standalone dynamo with no power leads running to it . . . only connections for opening and closing the circuit and for speed control (accelerator).  Now that would make for an awesome motor swap in your car!

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I have designed the simplest mechanical 4 Battery Tesla Switch that I know.
Very simple commutator design.  I would like to share it.  Have a look.

sirdoitall

Hi sirdoitall,

I edited your drawing to show my question better and that is the output capacitors are connected to the battery negatives of the left and right side battery banks and these negative poles are continuously connected together via the conducting metal area via the brushes.  The blue lines show the battery negative conducting path and the red lines show the positive conducting path and both are the same in both switching sequencies. (The conducting plates with the brushes nicely connect the battery banks either in series or parallel, there is no problem with that.
So where should the output capacitors be really connected to?

Thanks,  Gyula

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #99 on: September 11, 2012, 09:35:04 PM »
I think you guys might be interested in this.
I did buy a stargate motor kit and was going to use it as the primary mover for a Muller Dynamo.
But I have, since, changed my mind and plan to build a different design.
So I am now selling the complete stargate motor, complete with motor, stargate conversion bracket, and magnets for $200 less than retail.
I did see a difference in motor performance but, because my magnet supplier didn't have small magnets in grade N52, I don't think it's performing quite as well as it could because the the smaller magnets are about 3% under powered as compared to the larger magnets which are N52.

At any rate, if any of you are interested in such a setup, for far less, see:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150894442898


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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #100 on: October 14, 2012, 07:50:05 PM »
I did buy a stargate motor kit...
I cant believe you felt for that. The original video (actually, the whole series of videos) was produced for the sole purpose of selling hugely overpriced parts. This guy is not a researcher and his goal is not to help this community.

I laughed till it started to hurt watching the videos.
I particularly liked dramatic Carl-Sagan-like voice narrating the videos. '..that is a very good question. Can it really charge itself?... .
Translation: ... can I really sell cheap penny parts for big bucks? How many suckers will fall for my videos this time?

I am sorry for your loss and good luck selling it.


 

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #101 on: December 27, 2012, 10:45:23 PM »
Hi sirdoitall,

I edited your drawing to show my question better and that is the output capacitors are connected to the battery negatives of the left and right side battery banks and these negative poles are continuously connected together via the conducting metal area via the brushes.  The blue lines show the battery negative conducting path and the red lines show the positive conducting path and both are the same in both switching sequencies. (The conducting plates with the brushes nicely connect the battery banks either in series or parallel, there is no problem with that.
So where should the output capacitors be really connected to?

Thanks,  Gyula

gyulasun,
That is a completely legitimate question.  The capacitors you see in the circuit are "smoothing" caps that act as buffer banks to alternating dynamo (noted by the block on one side of the dielectric).  It took me a while to wrap my mind around this concept as well.  If you study the Tesla 4-battery switch, you will find it is the same scenario.  I've only replaced the switches with a radial commutator.  You have to closely follow the path of the battery leads to see what is occurring.  The battery bank in series is always feeding the battery bank in parallel, so the potential difference coming out of the parallel bank is ~half of the series bank (assuming all batteries hold an equal charge).  Of course, this action alone will only "prolong" battery life, by maintaining the dipole.  Heat losses would still eventually drain the batteries, if it were not for the Back EMF firing back into the batteries, every time the contacts switch back and forth.
It's possible that I misunderstood your question, but I hope this helps.

gyulasun

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #102 on: December 27, 2012, 11:34:36 PM »
Hi sirdoitall,

Thanks for returning to this topic. Yes I am afraid you misundertood my reasonings that led to my question. In fact, as you drew the radial commutator, the brush contacts in Stage 1 and in Stage 2 I indicated in Blue line are always connect the two capacitor's positive ends, no any commutation can take place towards the capacitors.  I mean if you could "test" with an Ohm meter in your drawing the continuity between the two right handside ends of the electrolytic caps (between their two positive legs) you would find an unchanging, continuous conduction (i.e. a short circuit) both in Stage 1 and in Stage 2. This is why I asked where actually the two positive cap ends are connected to?  I hope this explains my question and you could modify your schematics to reflect the correct cap connections.

I wonder if you have had some time to build and test this setup since then? Just curious... 8)

Thanks, Gyula


gyulasun,
That is a completely legitimate question.  The capacitors you see in the circuit are "smoothing" caps that act as buffer banks to alternating dynamo (noted by the block on one side of the dielectric).  It took me a while to wrap my mind around this concept as well.  If you study the Tesla 4-battery switch, you will find it is the same scenario.  I've only replaced the switches with a radial commutator.  You have to closely follow the path of the battery leads to see what is occurring.  The battery bank in series is always feeding the battery bank in parallel, so the potential difference coming out of the parallel bank is ~half of the series bank (assuming all batteries hold an equal charge).  Of course, this action alone will only "prolong" battery life, by maintaining the dipole.  Heat losses would still eventually drain the batteries, if it were not for the Back EMF firing back into the batteries, every time the contacts switch back and forth.
It's possible that I misunderstood your question, but I hope this helps.

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #103 on: December 28, 2012, 12:00:43 AM »
What loss?

I see no evidence I lost anything including, but not limited to: gaining of knowledge, enjoying the learning from the experiments, increased efficiency, and a tangible substance/hard asset, bartered for a mere IOU (fiat currency), holding its value, on my shelf, while the value of paper promises continues to fall, and I believe no such evidence exists.

You appear to be of the position a ripoff, theft, misrepresentation has occurred.
I see no evidence of any ripoff, theft, or misrepresentation, has occurred or that I 'fell for it' and I believe no such evidence exists.

You're sorry?
I'm not!

What care, I, the goal of another? :)
Would it be ok, with you, if I continue to learn, what I may from others, and continue to strive for success to the best of my ability?

I conditionally accept your position "this guy is not a researcher" on condition you prove, by way of certified documentation authored under penalty of perjury of no less than 10,000.00, this guy, has not, did not, in fact, do any research in order to accomplish the effects in his videos including, but not limited to, a linear motor which, Converts magnetic energy to accelerated motion without an outside power source, and within Newton's law of physics that states: "Force is Equal to Mass Multiplied by Acceleration" (F=MA). And Energy, in physics, is the capacity to do Work or produce a change. Are you of the position the device does NOT do work or produce a change without an external power source?

Should you FAIL to prove your claim then you, by way of silent consent, or failure to produce certified documentation, hereby admit defeat and that you should eat my socks!

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PS:
Please forgive me, for not responding sooner, as I only, just now, discovered these allegations therefore nunc pro tunc is applicable.



I cant believe you felt for that. The original video (actually, the whole series of videos) was produced for the sole purpose of selling hugely overpriced parts. This guy is not a researcher and his goal is not to help this community.

I laughed till it started to hurt watching the videos.
I particularly liked dramatic Carl-Sagan-like voice narrating the videos. '..that is a very good question. Can it really charge itself?... .
Translation: ... can I really sell cheap penny parts for big bucks? How many suckers will fall for my videos this time?

I am sorry for your loss and good luck selling it.

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #104 on: December 28, 2012, 04:59:09 PM »
What loss? It actually works ok as the primary driver for an earlier version of my Muller dynamo experiments.
See: http://www.overunity.com/3842/muller-dynamo/msg320592/#msg320592

Just not as well as needed for that particular setup which is actually supposed to use its own coils as the primary driver/motor and not an external motor.
It was merely an experimental test. And, in fact, that experimental unit has been completely rebuilt since then.
Here is the latest update and image-
http://www.overunity.com/3842/muller-dynamo/msg348973/#msg348973

As of right now; I never had any intention of attempting to replicate the quanta magnetics "self charging?" version (Modified Howard Johnson ramp) which uses a LOT of magnets and is very expensive to build and is merely a demonstration, proof of concept, unit.

And, since you made this comment back in October, Quanta Magnetics has already moved onto more practical systems. . .
See: www.quantamagnetics.com

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I am sorry for your loss and good luck selling it.