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Author Topic: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Ton Kuiper: Quantum Resonant Gyrator  (Read 25622 times)

Offline xee2

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Ton Kuiper: Quantum Resonant Gyrator
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 08:37:23 AM »
And what makes the quanta of your oscillator any better than the other resonator, xee2?

It is not better. But it may be easier to build. Pancake coils seem to make very good one wire circuits. This is one by jiffycoil  >>>

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Ton Kuiper: Quantum Resonant Gyrator
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 10:37:16 PM »
Hi Everybody Thanks for all your reactions  :)0(
I me just now on-line at home ,just moved in here so..
I will now reveal the missing part in the circuit -> it's a magnetron
magnet. If you use 2 x 22uH ferrite coils as in the circuit and mount these on each side
of the transistor. The folded lead distance of the coil´s I use is : 2cm.
Brightness in led in primary circuit 2 x parallel hyperbrigth green LED's
and (5x2)= 10 LED at the end of my one wire, are easily modulated with the magnet
when I move the magnet in a distance of ± 8 cm from the transistor and coils . the transistor is in the hole
current goes up from 4 mA to 18 mA, transistor is at room temperature...
Here you clearly see the gyrator /: B. D. H. Tellegen do its thing.
Video´s soon demonstrating this. All the best §

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HELP please: Safe One Wire energy transfer
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 09:49:43 AM »

How do I do more useful things with this?

I have 12V battery powering this now.  Off of the output wire, I've run that to pancake coils, and off of the receiving secondary, I attached an AV plug, cause this should be one of the more 'dense aethereal points' ... and it is; I was reading 24V off the ends of the diodes, that's not what I'm getting now though; but it did appear to have good voltage.  So really I'm trying to put an AV plug with a capacitor across it, and then one side to a spark gap, to a coil parallel with a cap, back to the other side.  But what I get is that I can probe with a LED AVPlug, and see power.  BOth sides of the spark gap have signal, so I think the diodes aren't doing a very good job of recitifying, since it shouldn't have an AC pulse enough to like the LED?

Offline CuriousChris

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Ton Kuiper: Quantum Resonant Gyrator
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 12:12:39 PM »
Fun but its still an rf oscillator.

The last test you do proves it. The radio picks up the noise and when you hold the LED's the frequency changes. as it should. the LED's are part of your transmitter by touching them you become part of the transmitter. The magnet is also a big chunk of metal so of course its going to effect the resonant frequency of such a badly shielded experiment. I hope none of your neighbours has a pacemaker you may have given them a cardiac arrest.

Welcome to the world of Radio.

8 Reasons why this is not RF:
1. The signals on both sides are locked (audio over one wire tested)
What does this even mean? the test you performed showed the radiated energy changed by introducing your body into the cct

2. Wireless transmission shows 'radiant' properties
therefore its radio (rf)

3. Same power after long wire
The length of the wire changes the frequency and efficiency, but its still RF

4. Via water after a distance (weak)
all impure water is conductive notice how you have to 'complete the cct' by touching the short wire? you are a part of the cct.
What was this test supposed to prove?

5. Wireless after distance (weak)
Its RF! DC would NOT be picked up by a radio at any distance

6. JAMS all (short wave) frequencies!!
Yeah because its RF! and very very noisy RF, hence the dead neighbour with the pacemaker (the cct generates many different frequencies [harmonics] due to its poor construction)

7. Transistor is not hot
So what. it means its umm not hot.

8. SUPER MODE: LEDs shine brighter after one wire, than LEDs in series with the batteries!
meaningless test. RF is AC which means the LEDs are turned on and off rapidly, too fast for the eye to see but it can mean the LEDs look brighter while consuming less current.

The "proofs" above actually mean very little. As others have done hook up a Cro you'll see whats really going on. A moving needle meter cannot detect RF as the needle averages the signal out. That can be ANY VALUE below the true current draw depending on the DUTY CYCLE of the signal. I assume in the later video the duty cycle was not 50/50 and that's why it showed a current.

My breakdown above is a quick overview after a quick scan of your video's if I have missed something I am sorry. but nothing will change the fact that the guys from Peswiki and other forums are correct. ITS RF!

what happens when you remove the short wire, and dont touch the LED's with your fingers? There should be almost no current flow and the LEDs should not light or only very dimly.


P.S. Most things Tesla did was about AC or RF He was fascinated by and had extreme insight into the power of resonance. that's how he did the things he did (including shaking a building).

Damn he was soo clever :)

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Re: Safe One Wire energy transfer by Ton Kuiper: Quantum Resonant Gyrator
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 04:37:35 PM »
I took a break and worked on some joule theives following the 101 thread.  That's another story...
I tried to take my joule theif and power my resononant oscillator, didn't have a lot of luck getting good RF effects from my joule theif alone.... I thought I had it working, but it was reverse lighting up my LEDs bypassing the resonanator part.... think the oscillator is a low logic thing and the joule theif is a high logic thing or something... but anyhow.  Having blown up a few transistors in my joule theif testing, I thought I might have blown this one... okay but anyhow, I went back to just this circuit.  I've spent the last 4 hours trying to get it to work.  It would NOT work and this was very frustrating since when I first started it kicked off right away.  I replaced caps, diodes, the transistor twice, everything except the coils which I have a strong beleif that they are the most in spec part I was using other than the transistor. 
I still can't get it to start on its own, but I took a long coil, pump 4.1Mhz through it, touch it with my hand in a certain spot at a certain frequency and can kick start the oscillator.  I can then remove the signal from the coil, and remove the coil and the circuit continues to run.  I can then remove the starter meg-ohm resistor, and it continues.  Hoooked up my pancakes, and got no power at the far end, but took and AV plug and touched the first primary, touched along the secondary, and its output, then got a signal and which then transferred to the other end... something like chasing a bump under a rug.  I'm going to make a video of the 'hoops I have to jump through' to start this.
Ya, this one didn't demonstarte just touching the coil to get it to start, had to tickle its start wire too...