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Title: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: hartiberlin on January 16, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
Don´t forget the lies they have put out before to start wars !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmbRDO0LyDs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmbRDO0LyDs)

Don´t let it happen again !

Please help to spread this video.
Many thanks.
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Qwert on January 16, 2012, 10:09:16 PM
Yes, THEY are lying about others. But this video lacks something: it doesn't say that the OTHERS are equally lying about THEM. And all are lying THEIR own citizens. Who are THEM? THEY are GOVERNMENTS. Not ordinary people, not nations. GOVERNMENTS!! They are detached from us, ordinary people. They don't listen us anymore, once they get there after elections.
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: chessnyt on January 17, 2012, 02:32:11 AM
Don´t forget the lies they have put out before to start wars !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmbRDO0LyDs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmbRDO0LyDs)

Don´t let it happen again !

Please help to spread this video.
Many thanks.

There have been three major attempts that I know of for the U.S. government to try to sell us yet another fucking war.  Enough is enough, God damn it. 
 
Vote for someone running for president that is NOT hell bent on another bloody war over bullshit and propaganda.  Please vote for Ron Paul who opposes not only these endless and perpetual wars, but also the endless occupation after the war is long over. 
 
Chess
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Qwert on January 17, 2012, 09:26:15 AM

 ... Please vote for Ron Paul ...

Unbelievable!!  There still are people, who believe politicians??
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 17, 2012, 12:23:05 PM
Unbelievable!!  There still are people, who believe politicians??
I enter rarely into political subject but I would prefer a Ron Paul than a second Obama or a Bu$ch...
The problem is more that f***ing Corp and that Rockefeller/Rothschild Kabal that control everything...


Free Energy = end of war and all these guys will lose power (including politician)...


It's a fact that over thousand of year war is only for energy and resource...
Working FE device = Independence from Corps, from politicians even from the Gov/state.
From France.
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: MasterPlaster on January 17, 2012, 02:25:23 PM
The war mongers are totally aware of their actions but normal peoples opinion does not seem to carry any weight.

Free energy would change they playing field but it as long as the inventors sell themselves for pieces of paper their efforts are
worthless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdMsPuIxyYk



Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Qwert on January 17, 2012, 06:33:12 PM
...
Working FE device = Independence from Corps, from politicians even from the Gov/state.
...

Politicians have tools to compensate: TAXES. The only way to influence them (politicians) is SOCIAL UNREST (at least I see it like that).
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 17, 2012, 09:07:20 PM
Politicians have tools to compensate: TAXES. The only way to influence them (politicians) is SOCIAL UNREST (at least I see it like that).


Yeah you're right, or something like civil disobedience...


I fear if one day FE will spread away into the population, Government will find a way to TAX the energy even if you produce yourself !!!
In this case civil disobedience will not be only a right but a DUTY !

Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: chessnyt on January 18, 2012, 01:58:58 AM
Unbelievable!!  There still are people, who believe politicians??

 

The following video is a good sample of what Ron Paul is proposing regarding war and nation building:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqpbCcD76o&feature=g-all-u&context=G22efc44FAAAAAAAABAA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqpbCcD76o&feature=g-all-u&context=G22efc44FAAAAAAAABAA)
 
And no, I do not believe/support Ron Paul based on what he says alone.  I heavily factor in his past actions (his congressional voting record) which are a part of the public record which no other candidate can deny or even try to match which is that Ron Paul:
 
• Has never voted to raise taxes.
• Has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
• Has never voted to raise congressional pay.
• Has never taken a government paid junket.
• Voted against the Patriot Act.
• Voted against regulating the internet.
• Voted against the Iraq war.
• Introduced legislation to restrict the TSA.
• Has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
• Has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
 
These are actions that I not only believe in, but are clearly a matter of fact. 
 
Chess
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: hartiberlin on January 24, 2012, 12:52:46 AM
WHy is the EU now putting Iran under pressure by conducting an embargo to not import Iranian oil ?

Why is nobody speaking about the huge Israeli Atomic program and having huge amounts of atomic weapons,
which are not regulated by the  International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA ?


Also the Israeli weapons could reach easily Western Europe, so if we could get in trouble with Israel,
they surely could nuke every Western Europe city with their atomic missiles !

It seems Israel doesn´t want to have competition in its Atomic power status in this region and tries to get
all the other Western states to begin a war against IRAN just by pressuring them to begin these stupid
embargos.....

People Wake up !
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: hartiberlin on January 24, 2012, 01:08:05 AM
P.S: Did you read this yet ?

  Jewish paper says Netanhayu should kill Obama

The owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, Andrew Adler, has suggested that Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu consider ordering a Mossad hit team to assassinate U.S. President Barack Obama so that his successor will defend Israel against Iran.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/uproar-after-jewish-american-newspaper-publisher-suggests-israel-assassinate-barack-obama-1.408429


Wake up !
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Magluvin on January 24, 2012, 02:31:59 AM
So thats the big reason why most Jews dont want Ron Paul to get anywhere in the elections. I speak to some that are friends of mine on this at work and they always say that Ron Paul will ruin this country, but they never give me an explanation why. Now I know.

If we believe when the Bibles says Israel would not lose any wars once they got their land back, then if we did back out of helping them, it should not matter.

Mags
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 24, 2012, 12:16:34 PM
Quote
So thats the big reason why most Jews dont want Ron Paul to get anywhere in the elections. I speak to some that are friends of mine on this at work and they always say that Ron Paul will ruin this country, but they never give me an explanation why. Now I know.[/quote


Israeli people are not  "Jews" they are Zionist, they don't follow Judaism and Yahweh, they follow Satan...


Judaism =/= Zionism


I support traditional Jews not the Zionist dog, unfortunately many Jews of today are Zionist, some are well aware about this, other are just misguided...
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: d3x0r on January 24, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
The idea 'Ron Paul will ruin our country' is just what's being portrayed - and that's the entire image the mainstream media has chosen to show - without evidence, so they've left their sheeple audience out on a hook with just 'cause he will.'
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Cloxxki on January 24, 2012, 06:24:42 PM
If you live in a country where you can actually elect someone who is against this huge pro-Israel charade, please raise your hand.
 
I cannot use my voting power to do something about this. Who knows if Ron Paul will actually become his party's candidate the whole party would have to turn around 180º. I so hope he's not a plant. Perhaps the republicans will throw Paul out, just too late for him to start his own party and run for office?
He'll go the way of JFK anyway. I am sad to have to fear this.
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Rafael Ti on January 24, 2012, 10:13:44 PM
Hi guys. I am new for this forum, but have followed it for some time now. I've got many ideas concerning P(erpetuum)M(obile) as you have  :) , which am willing to share with soon. Esp. gravity wheels and magnet shielding concepts. And I really appreciate this forum.
Regarding Iran... yes, they're not our anemies, they just want to run the country in their own way. I think democracy is not necessairly a Holy Grail for each nation. The nations just differ. As a Bible believer christian I find it lately hard to take a stance on modern Israel - Zionists. Saying 'God bless Israel'... does it implicate 'God curse Palestinians'? Or saing 'God bless America'... does it mean 'God curse Iran'? But this is what the propaganda wants to sell us. Don't know what's gonna hapen in the Middle East and World in the nearest future but have bad feelings.
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Magluvin on January 25, 2012, 07:58:09 AM
I thought this was great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_38eblLcKw

Then in contrast and in substance....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_IUwwGq-A

Ron Paul 2012     The Champion Of The Constitution     ;)

Mags
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Magluvin on January 25, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
And this is one of my favorites

They always claim "He is unelectable"   

Well, they asked Ron Paul about it at a debate. And you can bet they will never ask him that again.  ;]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtTfqFhJDN0

Mags
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on January 25, 2012, 10:15:49 AM
Unfortunately we have not a Ron Paul in France , we have Francois Hollande (Left) and Nicolas Sarkozy (Right)... Both are candidate of the system, ie: more Tax, less liberty, more debt, more police state, HADOPI (Yeah we have something like SOPA for a couple of years now but the system is very inefficient). Infested by Zionist politician, associative lobby... Biased Media, pff. Seriously we're also doomed here...
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: hartiberlin on January 26, 2012, 02:37:45 AM
ÃŽ want to clarify.
I am not against any country or any religion.
Every country has good and also bad people.

Unfortunately in some countries the bad people
are in the government and are doing bad and harmful decisions.


Why not try to get the whole middle east region nuclear weapons free ?

They have plenty of sunshine over there and with the new cheap solar cells
they could really make the deserts green and feed their
people with all the food they could grow then themself.
They would not need any
atomic power anymore !

So it would be great if Iran and all the other States in this region
including Israel would abondom their atomic power programs
and just switch to solar energy or free energy devices which will
also soon be available !

So lets have a peaceful region there finally... and avoid any wars
about atomic weapons or atomic power production.

Here it is confirmed:

http://www.mail.com/int/business/economy/1003050-ap-interview-saudi-warns-mideast-nuclear-race.html#.1002264-stage-related1-4 (http://www.mail.com/int/business/economy/1003050-ap-interview-saudi-warns-mideast-nuclear-race.html#.1002264-stage-related1-4)

Quote:
"Israel is widely believed to have an arsenal of hundreds of nuclear weapons but has avoided confirming or denying their existence. An Arab proposal for a weapons of mass destruction-free zone was initially endorsed by the 1995 conference reviewing the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, but never acted on."

=======


So all in all it would be good if also Israel would come forward and would show all the inspectors their atomic weapons and would
agree to destroy them , if all the other States in the region would also stop using atomic power productions...

So I guess it is time for Israel to also come clear  and get more transparent with their arsenal of atomic weapons
and let the public know, how many atomic weapons they already have and if they want to agree to a
nuclear weapons-free zone in this region.

I think it is time for the good people in Israel to come forward and endorse this step to finally have peace in this region.

Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Fester on January 26, 2012, 05:23:03 AM
The world as we know it is over already, you just havent recognized it.
We are all slaves, to corruption in the  monetary system.
We are all slaves, to corruption of the media.
We are all slaves, from corruption of religion.
We are all slaves, from corruption of government.
We are all slaves, from corruption of natural resources.
We are all slaves, from corruption of agriculture.
We are all slaves, while we sheepishly be driven apart by race, creed, or gender.
We are all slaves, because we have slowly and quietly let it all slip away.
We are all slaves, because we believe what people tell us, instead of looking for ourselves.
When it comes to slavery, bloodshed is the only way to get out of it.
Iran is not our enemy, WE are!
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: CuriousChris on January 26, 2012, 06:38:09 AM
I am not from the US so I don't have a great understanding of your corporate err political system

But isn't Ron P a Republican?

Doesn't that make him pro oil wars?

Even if he is personally against wars or whatever. doesn't the congress control it anyway. so the president is a figurehead and not much else. Isn't it whoever controls the congress controls power.

And wouldn't a vote for Ron P be a vote for the republicans and therefore put the same team back in who started the wars anyway?

No matter who you choose you need to find someone with the balls to stand up against corporate America. I am pretty sure a republican isn't it.

I can tell you now the rest of the world breathed a sigh of relief when Obama became president. it was palpable. we honestly thought another term of Bush type politics would drag us unwittingly into a world war. If you think corporate America got off lightly under Obama. how do you think they would have faired under bush/republicans?
Rafael Ti has a total of 1 post Do you think he is anything more than a paid promter of RP? Of course he is. Probably someone from another country (you know the one)  paid a couple of cents per post he puts out. Spreading misinformation.

CC
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: PhiChaser on January 26, 2012, 07:25:42 AM
9-11 = Inside job. 110 story buildings don't just fall straight down at freefall speeds. WTC7 anyone? Too many questions but it amounts to an excuse to invade (read 'preliminary strike') anyone we want under the guise of 'humanitarian aid' to whoever doesn't agree with our 'take whatever we want because we have the most bullets' philosophy (a.k.a. 'peace from a gun barrel').
We aren't at war with ANYONE!!! Evil (and I don't like using words like that but it fits in this situation) men for evil purposes are pulling strings and making us hate each other for their own nefarious purposes...
Bah, eff the NWO!! I hope that the rest of the world doesn't think we're ALL the sum total of our supposed 'leaders'... We all bleed red. Take the profit out of politics, take the country back, take back the constitution, quit invading the world!!
Love thy neighbor (and we're ALL neighbors aren't we?)
Turn off your TV!! Ron Paul 2012!!
Just my two cents ;)

PC

EDIT: The only reason RP is now a Republican is because the 'system'  has been rigged to be a two party system and he was forced (like we ALL have been forced) into that system! To even stand a chance of winning he has had to wear their stupid label... He is a Libertarian and a Constitutionalist as well as a Republican, no matter what the TV would like you to believe.
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: WilbyInebriated on January 26, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
I am not from the US so I don't have a great understanding of your corporate err political system
then i would recommend not making assumptions about candidates or the system...

"in religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing." -- samuel clemens
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: blocki on January 26, 2012, 11:09:26 PM
Hello All Free Energy Fighters :)

I'm new here, but following the forum for a while now. Ron Paul is not going to solve this problem, he wants to, but there is no power. Every time a 'good' politician stands up, and gets elected, he loses the power to the real power: Rothschild & Co! There is indeed only one solution and that is free energy.

Keep up the good work, I will try to contribute to this forum...


Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: CuriousChris on January 27, 2012, 03:33:45 AM

Sadly if it wasn't for the fact American politics play such a large part in the worlds safety level I would stay out of it and couldn't really care other than on human rights issues. But because you yanks tend to run roughshod over the "rest of the world" (I know its a phrase many American's don't understand). It does mean we must take at least a little interest.

So yes we do care if you vote for some gun toten cowboy who just reckons "bomb em all" is the way to go as I have so often heard on many forums. Or wether you vote for someone he sees past his own backyard.

And I see another spam post in favour of RP. Either its paid for spam and then you have to worry about the integrity of their electoral campaign or its unpaid spam and you have to worry about the mentality of RP supporters who think that's OK to go out and spam. Which is it?

Go ahead and have a discussion, but when it is so obviously spam and probable misinformation just get rid of it.

CC

Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: WilbyInebriated on January 27, 2012, 07:05:54 PM
those words of mine were in reference to your self admitted non understanding of the US political system...  i was pretty sure the quote that followed it from samuel clemens made that more than clear... it appears your comprehension of english is limited as well.

Sadly if it wasn't for the fact American politics play such a large part in the worlds safety level I would stay out of it and couldn't really care other than on human rights issues. But because you yanks tend to run roughshod over the "rest of the world" (I know its a phrase many American's don't understand). It does mean we must take at least a little interest.
again i never requested that you 'stay out of it'... don't make stuff up. i only suggested that if you self admittedly don't have an understanding of something that you probably shouldn't go making assumptions (or running off at the mouth) about it.

So yes we do care if you vote for some gun toten cowboy who just reckons "bomb em all" is the way to go as I have so often heard on many forums. Or wether you vote for someone he sees past his own backyard.
you have already admitted to not understanding the system and now you forming an opinion from some hyperbole you heard on another forum. you prove the point of my sam clemens quote beautifully... thank you

And I see another spam post in favour of RP. Either its paid for spam and then you have to worry about the integrity of their electoral campaign or its unpaid spam and you have to worry about the mentality of RP supporters who think that's OK to go out and spam. Which is it?

Go ahead and have a discussion, but when it is so obviously spam and probable misinformation just get rid of it.

CC
and in you i see another self admitted ignorant. whose beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing...



as an aside...
your premise of it's either 'spam and this' or 'spam and that' is a logical fallacy known as a false dilemma... it could very well just be spam. or it could be spam and bacon... or it could be some guy you paid to come in here and post something about ron paul so you could come in and post that effluence you just did... it could be a manifestation of the flying spaghetti monster.
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Rosemary Ainslie on January 27, 2012, 07:13:25 PM
those words of mine were in reference to your self admitted non understanding of the US political system...  i was pretty sure the quote that followed it from samuel clemens made that more than clear... it appears your comprehension of english is limited as well.

again i never requested that you 'stay out of it'... don't make stuff up. i only suggested that if you self admittedly don't have an understanding of something that you probably shouldn't go making assumptions (or running off at the mouth) about it.

you have already admitted to not understanding the system and now you forming an opinion from some hyperbole you heard on another forum. you prove the point of my sam clemens quote beautifully... thank you

and in you i see another self admitted ignorant. whose beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing...

Golly.  Don't hold back Wilby.  LOL
 ;D

Rosie
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Laurie on January 27, 2012, 08:50:26 PM
those words of mine were in reference to your self admitted non understanding of the US political system...  i was pretty sure the quote that followed it from samuel clemens made that more than clear... it appears your comprehension of english is limited as well.
again i never requested that you 'stay out of it'... don't make stuff up. i only suggested that if you self admittedly don't have an understanding of something that you probably shouldn't go making assumptions (or running off at the mouth) about it.
you have already admitted to not understanding the system and now you forming an opinion from some hyperbole you heard on another forum. you prove the point of my sam clemens quote beautifully... thank you
and in you i see another self admitted ignorant. whose beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing...



as an aside...
your premise of it's either 'spam and this' or 'spam and that' is a logical fallacy known as a false dilemma... it could very well just be spam. or it could be spam and bacon... or it could be some guy you paid to come in here and post something about ron paul so you could come in and post that effluence you just did... it could be a manifestation of the flying spaghetti monster.



And BULLY for you! Ha...Ha....

Top of the mornin to you!

Laurie
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: Magluvin on January 28, 2012, 12:50:03 AM

And I see another spam post in favour of RP. Either its paid for spam and then you have to worry about the integrity of their electoral campaign or its unpaid spam and you have to worry about the mentality of RP supporters who think that's OK to go out and spam. Which is it?

Go ahead and have a discussion, but when it is so obviously spam and probable misinformation just get rid of it.

CC

No Spam here. Ive been a member of this site since 2008. Never really posted anything political till lately.

You say you are not from the US. So why offer your objections of RP? Give me solid info as to why not RP.
As far as im concerned, you have posted at least 2 times of posts favoring RP are spam. Maybe I say you are the spammer.  :o

Mags
Title: New Pearl Harbor soon to come ? False flag operation under way ?
Post by: hartiberlin on January 29, 2012, 05:55:18 PM
Please spread this video widely !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJRvCieg1Y


It is very important that everybody will know this, so that they
still can be stopped !

Many thanks.


Title: Re: New Pearl Harbor soon to come ? False flag operation under way ?
Post by: rensseak on January 29, 2012, 08:36:25 PM
Please spread this video widely !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJRvCieg1Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJRvCieg1Y)


It is very important that everybody will know this, so that they
still can be stopped !

Many thanks.


Schon mal das hier gelesen?  http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28895 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28895)

Did you read this already? http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28736 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28736)
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: chessnyt on February 07, 2012, 03:54:51 AM
@Everyone:
Three days ago, the U.S. Secretary of Defense (Panetta) stated that there is a "strong likelihood" that Israel will attack Iran between April and June of this year!  I can only hope that everyone in the U.S. puts pressure on their politicians to make sure we do NOT enter into this insane war that Israel is dying to wage.  Just a bunch of Israeli IDIOTS!!! 
 
Here is a link to the story:
http://www.sananews.net/english/2012/02/israel-may-attack-iran-from-april-to-june-this-year-panetta/ (http://www.sananews.net/english/2012/02/israel-may-attack-iran-from-april-to-june-this-year-panetta/)
 
 
Regards,
 
Chess   
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on February 07, 2012, 10:27:50 AM
Don't worry, China, Russia, and Chavez (I have read somewhere that Indian tend to make diplomatic relation with China but not sure about this) will support Iran against the criminal Kabale, because Asian not tolerate any more ingerence into middle-east and Asia from Israel/US/Europe Gov...


Just hope that us (western people) won't fall into another 9/11 like trap and send troops...
Title: Re: Iran is not our enemy !
Post by: stefani88 on February 09, 2012, 04:18:22 AM
@Everyone:
Three days ago, the U.S. Secretary of Defense (Panetta) stated that there is a "strong likelihood" that Israel will attack Iran between April and June of this year!  I can only hope that everyone in the U.S. puts pressure on their politicians to make sure we do NOT enter into this insane war that Israel is dying to wage.  Just a bunch of Israeli IDIOTS!!! 
 
Here is a link to the story:
http://www.sananews.net/english/2012/02/israel-may-attack-iran-from-april-to-june-this-year-panetta/ (http://www.sananews.net/english/2012/02/israel-may-attack-iran-from-april-to-june-this-year-panetta/)
 

Regards,
 
Chess
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