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Offline Joh70

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2012, 12:06:22 AM »
Itseung888,


when do you think, the first free energy device will be come to public market?
even a toy showing a principle, or magnetic fan, or anything else


you mentioned device from south-africa and china....,
they seem quite far,,,,
only marketing is missing and copy-protection (which is not easy)


i am curios about the near future,
- solar business in germany is decreasing fast,,,,,
- wind energy is still not very successfull in south-germany where i live,
- many nuclear power plants already switched off in germany,
- fuel for cars got incredible expensive nowadays,,,,
how long to wait for a good news from new energies and
a shame-effect for the ignorant doctors and professors?


Thank you  for an answer,
Johannes


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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #75 on: April 08, 2012, 12:06:22 AM »

Offline ltseung888

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #76 on: April 12, 2012, 02:52:36 PM »
I am reasonably certain that a commercial product of significance will be available on the Market soon.
 
The FLEET technology has advanced to the point that the output can be greater than 1 KW.  The battery can be recharged.  This can be demonstrated today.
 
The next step is to remove the battery after starting.  That will equal the Steven Mark TPU in capability.  At the same time, the Output Power will be increased to 5KW for a home generator.
 
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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2012, 03:24:29 PM »
Thanks itseung888 for you answer!


Yes, i think solid state static devices will be the successfull type of free energy devices: Smart, Silent, Compact, Powerfull. Really impressive... And yes, it will be soon,,,,,,,


Glory to the almighty, which delivered the physics for all that since ever,,,,only the science was too blind and arrogant,,,,what a shame,,,,and there will be more such cases of exposing humanly proudness,,,,,we will see

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #77 on: April 12, 2012, 03:24:29 PM »
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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2012, 05:10:34 PM »
It appears that we can put multiple 1KW units together to achieve a 5KW home generator unit.
 
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Free energy is so simple that we have overlooked it.
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2013, 08:22:58 PM »
 Free energy is so simple that we have overlooked it.
 This free-energy device is based on simple multiplication of rotations
 that you get by putting a very large and very small pulley within the same belt
 You could also gain another multiplication factor by adding additional small pulleys attached to generators on the same belt, rope. Strap
This way you could easily multiply the number of rotations
 With electricity, multiplication of rotations means multiplication of electricity.
So, in effect, you are using a simple pulley system
To multiply the number of rotations, as well as your electrical power   
Believe me, I found this extremely hard to believe in myself         IMPOSIBLE.
 But the efforts of that crafty Satan and all of his evil cohorts, 1/3 fallen angels
 This is a major conspiracy work by fallen angels and sadly deceived misguided humans
 
 This is so simple, there is no digital trickery with electronic.
 You are using the massive geometric differences of pulley sizes to multiply your rotations = thereby multiplying your power.
 It is really just that simple
 
 JUST BELIEVE + BUILD IT
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This is a Miracle from God, and yes, it seems to defy thermodynamics.
 It does this by using the extreme circumferential size differences in the pulleys.
 Just think about it, you only have to put energy enough to turn the drive motor the once,
 and by adding multiple mini-pulleys with generators on them hundreds of rotations.
 YOU MUST GAIN ELECTRICAL POWER   
We can let God worry about the details of what about torque
 Just try this. And I promise you that it will work
 it works on multiplying the rotations of pulleys
 and with electricity, more rotations means more electricity
 it is really that simple guys + gals

 FREE ENERGY IS HERE
 now lets have many people working on free energy power supplies
 
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Offline LibreEnergia

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Re: Free energy is so simple that we have overlooked it.
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2013, 11:06:04 PM »
  You are using the massive geometric differences of pulley sizes to multiply your rotations = thereby multiplying your power.
 It is really just that simple
 

This is some of the most egregious bullshit I've read on here in a while.

Power is not multiplied by adding 'rotations'. Torque may be multiplied (or reduced) but the rotational velocity is inversely affected.

Power, which is the product of torque * angular velocity is unchanged.

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2013, 11:34:17 PM »
So I guess the best OU machine around must be a ten-speed bicycle. Thank God for the downhills!

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #82 on: August 09, 2013, 12:18:50 AM »
Ah.... it's the overunity wheelchair design again.

Look, warrior.... get someone to help you make a video showing some evidence for your claims. Use a cellphone camera! Don't you have any friends at all?

A system that could have been taken directly from your drawing was "supposed" to be demonstrated Live on Camera on the Smart Scarecrow show this evening. Much touted, allegedly the inventor spent 2.5 million dollars over the past few years on it. But guess what... there will be no demonstration this evening, because the device doesn't work after all -- like every other device of this type, it is allergic to demonstrations that aren't completely controlled by the claimant.

Your claim is pretty much the basic motor-generator or MoGen scheme that every bright ten-year-old kid comes up with and tries to build with his first soldering iron and toy motors ripped out of model cars. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now, so if you want anyone to take  you seriously you will have to provide some evidence, not prayer, not pleas for money... .but evidence of your own that supports your claims.


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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #83 on: August 10, 2013, 07:40:17 AM »
For having a device that produces radiant spikes, you sure don't seem to be a believer...  Your video with the HVDC Tesla Coil was awesome.  You had Pink and white sparks of radiant energy..  The thing you should try is current resonance.  I am pretty sure that if your setup doesn't consume amps, it will produce tons of radiant energy, Volts and Amps.  Your Tesla coil was almost there, you just need to adjust it a bit and you will get OU...  The proof is the Pink and white sparks you were getting off your coil..   Good Luck TK...

Proof is MagnaCoaster.  The only way he could get that device on the market was to make it output pulses DC...  It has to have some external input to run also.  But he does get a lot more out..

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #84 on: August 10, 2013, 09:00:37 AM »
Ah.... it's the overunity wheelchair design again.

Look, warrior.... get someone to help you make a video showing some evidence for your claims. Use a cellphone camera! Don't you have any friends at all?

A system that could have been taken directly from your drawing was "supposed" to be demonstrated Live on Camera on the Smart Scarecrow show this evening. Much touted, allegedly the inventor spent 2.5 million dollars over the past few years on it. But guess what... there will be no demonstration this evening, because the device doesn't work after all -- like every other device of this type, it is allergic to demonstrations that aren't completely controlled by the claimant.

Your claim is pretty much the basic motor-generator or MoGen scheme that every bright ten-year-old kid comes up with and tries to build with his first soldering iron and toy motors ripped out of model cars. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now, so if you want anyone to take  you seriously you will have to provide some evidence, not prayer, not pleas for money... .but evidence of your own that supports your claims.

TK:

Nice drawing but, you forgot the mosfets.  Also, you don't have near enough batteries in your circuit for a free energy device.

Bill

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2014, 08:39:45 PM »
Proof is MagnaCoaster.  The only way he could get that device on the market was to make it output pulses DC...  It has to have some external input to run also.  But he does get a lot more out..
Using the words "Magnacoaster" and "proof" in the same sentence?

A guy who "manufactures" devices and claims to be delivering them to customers but somehow can not point to a single independent test confirming his results or name anyone anywhere who has a working unit should not be referred to in a serious scientific discussion.

It would appear the only thing Magnacoaster is extracting is money from people's wallets which does seem to travel in one direction so perhaps the DC analogy is somewhat appropriate in that limited sense.

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Offline Qwert

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2014, 09:13:37 PM »
See this:
http://www.overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/95/#.U3O9LyjdwmR
http://www.overunity.com/5024/urgent-water-as-fuel-discovery-for-everyone-to-share/#.U3O-_ijdwmQ

The second link is not about hydrogen despite suggested such at the beginning; read the paper from the first link to understand. I see this as the only simple solution for energy crisis.

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Re: Any proof?
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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #88 on: May 17, 2014, 03:02:12 AM »
You asked for "Any Proof"

Keep in mind EVERYTHING written in the posts above are CLAIMS. Not one of them represents proof or even anything coming close to proof of overunity.

On the other hand is there proof against overunity?

Sadly an overwhelming abundance of proof.

There are very very few "laws of physics". That is so important that it cannot be understated. Something does not pass into law until it has been proven countless times. The law of conservation of energy is one such law.

Does that mean we won't find overunity? Frankly Yes, but first lets clarify some terms.

Overunity : when used within this community it only means one thing regardless of the rants of some.

Overunity means More Energy Out Than In. ein < eout. Thats it pure and simple!

COP: Coefficient of performance. Lets get this straight COP IS NOT OU. Anyone claiming otherwise is using a very simplistic view. The classic example of COP is the heat pump, people confuse a heatpump with a COP of say 4.5 as somehow overunity. It is Not! What it means is 1 unit of input energy "motivates" 4.5 units of output energy. Think of it like a light switch. It takes very little energy to turn a light on, but that energy does NOT cause the lamp to glow it simply provides a path for the real energy to make the lamp glow.

In the case of a heat pump the lines are a little more blurred. The input energy collects latent heat from the surrounding environment and pushes it to the output. The input energy simply provides the motive power. The actual output energy is comprised *entirely* of latent heat from the surroundings (which may include some of the waste input energy)

So like the light switch the input energy actually contributes very little or nothing to the output energy. It just provides the path. In a heat pump ALL the input energy is consumed by the pump motor as either motive force or waste heat.

So remember this rule COP IS NOT OU.

Getting back to proof of the conservation of energy. In science the way you prove a theory is you apply it to a problem and see if the theory predicts something about the problem which would not be known otherwise. You then test that prediction and see if it is correct or not.

The law of conservation of energy is tested that way everyday by thousands of scientists and engineers. It has not failed. Those scientists and engineers are not looking to test the law they are using the law to test their calculations. if the law wasnt correct then their calculations would be wrong.

Lets consider some of the things that wouldnt work if it wasnt for the law of conservation of energy. Hmmm well basically everything. Your mobile phone, that plane flying overhead, your microwave, that pacemaker, the computer you are typing on. They all rely on calculations which if wrong they would fail.

But lets give a more dramatic example something thats a little less obvious. I mean the Wright brothers didnt know they were applying the laws of conservation of energy when they achieved their first flight now did they (well actually they might have).

The discovery of neutrino's.

Neutrino's had to exist! When calculating the energy released by beta decay (radiation) there was missing energy. The calculations failed to account for all the energy and therefore failed to pass the law of conservation of energy. Thus it was obvious there was something else that no one could measure. but it HAD to be there!

So science went looking for it.

23 years later they found it. The neutrino! You can read about it here http://www.ps.uci.edu/physics/news/nuexpt.html

The only reason they found it was because their calculations of the decay of beta particles did not correlate with the conservation of energy laws!

What does that mean. Should we just give up searching for "free energy"?

No. It means we cannot magically "make energy" but it does not mean we cannot learn how to harvest energy from unusual sources and make it work for us.

So when you are reviewing all the ideas on this and other forums. Ask yourself or the inventor "Where is the energy coming from" If they say they dont know (or zero point energy which is the same thing) then you know they are wasting your time. Move on to something more productive we don't live long enough to waste time on the CLAIMS of fools.

CC






Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Any proof?
« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2014, 03:40:38 AM »
You asked for "Any Proof"

Keep in mind EVERYTHING written in the posts above are CLAIMS. Not one of them represents proof or even anything coming close to proof of overunity.

On the other hand is there proof against overunity?

Sadly an overwhelming abundance of proof.

There are very very few "laws of physics". That is so important that it cannot be understated. Something does not pass into law until it has been proven countless times. The law of conservation of energy is one such law.

Does that mean we won't find overunity? Frankly Yes, but first lets clarify some terms.

Overunity : when used within this community it only means one thing regardless of the rants of some.

Overunity means More Energy Out Than In. ein < eout. Thats it pure and simple!

COP: Coefficient of performance. Lets get this straight COP IS NOT OU. Anyone claiming otherwise is using a very simplistic view. The classic example of COP is the heat pump, people confuse a heatpump with a COP of say 4.5 as somehow overunity. It is Not! What it means is 1 unit of input energy "motivates" 4.5 units of output energy. Think of it like a light switch. It takes very little energy to turn a light on, but that energy does NOT cause the lamp to glow it simply provides a path for the real energy to make the lamp glow.

In the case of a heat pump the lines are a little more blurred. The input energy collects latent heat from the surrounding environment and pushes it to the output. The input energy simply provides the motive power. The actual output energy is comprised *entirely* of latent heat from the surroundings (which may include some of the waste input energy)

So like the light switch the input energy actually contributes very little or nothing to the output energy. It just provides the path. In a heat pump ALL the input energy is consumed by the pump motor as either motive force or waste heat.

So remember this rule COP IS NOT OU.

Getting back to proof of the conservation of energy. In science the way you prove a theory is you apply it to a problem and see if the theory predicts something about the problem which would not be known otherwise. You then test that prediction and see if it is correct or not.

The law of conservation of energy is tested that way everyday by thousands of scientists and engineers. It has not failed. Those scientists and engineers are not looking to test the law they are using the law to test their calculations. if the law wasnt correct then their calculations would be wrong.

Lets consider some of the things that wouldnt work if it wasnt for the law of conservation of energy. Hmmm well basically everything. Your mobile phone, that plane flying overhead, your microwave, that pacemaker, the computer you are typing on. They all rely on calculations which if wrong they would fail.

But lets give a more dramatic example something thats a little less obvious. I mean the Wright brothers didnt know they were applying the laws of conservation of energy when they achieved their first flight now did they (well actually they might have).

The discovery of neutrino's.

Neutrino's had to exist! When calculating the energy released by beta decay (radiation) there was missing energy. The calculations failed to account for all the energy and therefore failed to pass the law of conservation of energy. Thus it was obvious there was something else that no one could measure. but it HAD to be there!

So science went looking for it.

23 years later they found it. The neutrino! You can read about it here http://www.ps.uci.edu/physics/news/nuexpt.html

The only reason they found it was because their calculations of the decay of beta particles did not correlate with the conservation of energy laws!

What does that mean. Should we just give up searching for "free energy"?

No. It means we cannot magically "make energy" but it does not mean we cannot learn how to harvest energy from unusual sources and make it work for us.

So when you are reviewing all the ideas on this and other forums. Ask yourself or the inventor "Where is the energy coming from" If they say they dont know (or zero point energy which is the same thing) then you know they are wasting your time. Move on to something more productive we don't live long enough to waste time on the CLAIMS of fools.

CC

Great post!  I understand the confusion on the COP of a heat pump as it has been discussed on this site in many other topics.  To me, the real "proof" is to show me a heat pump that can run itself.  No one has been able to do that yet.  So, we need to get our terms in order so we are all on the same page.  I tried to do that years ago and it was a mess.

Once again, excellent post.

Bill

 

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