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Author Topic: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"  (Read 25548 times)

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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2012, 11:35:14 PM »
If it was as simple as this:


A V-track on a cylinder - like we have seen from Roobert33. However, with a weight on the wheel 180 degrees from the V-track end. This weight will force the rotation to wobble. The weight will use its centrifugal force to move the sticky spot away for a moment so the loop can repeat. The wheel can be tracked so it will only follow a stright wobble. Or using gavity to enhance the effect.


I have a feeling that this is the very basic idea from Clint. However, energy are lost during the wobble, so the machine cannot self run. It seems obvius that this can work, so Clint has probably been too excited about his idea and therefor choosed to risc credibility by saying he has a working magnet motor. Well, being excited can happen to us all.


If you need a drawing of the idea, please let me know.


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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2012, 02:57:34 AM »
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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2012, 01:17:09 AM »
Here is an animation of what I think Clints idea was. The V-track wheel has end and beginning at the opposite side of the weight. A strong spring is keeping the wheel in place except when the weight reach the bottom. At this position the distance between the magnet and the end of the V-track will increase to reduce the sticky spot - so the wheel can start over.


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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2012, 05:51:23 AM »
...opposite side of the weight... At this position the distance between the magnet and the end of the V-track will increase to reduce the sticky spot - so the wheel can start over.


hi-IQ thinking, Low-Q :)
milkovich's mechanical oscillator is the best solution for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIx-m6F2Jrw
cheers

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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2012, 06:50:35 AM »
Low-Q,
That's actually kind of interesting. I wonder if the V-track would be operating in attraction or repel?

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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2012, 11:05:53 PM »

hi-IQ thinking, Low-Q :)
milkovich's mechanical oscillator is the best solution for this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIx-m6F2Jrw
cheers
The problem with these designs, both the video and my animation above, is that when the system is loaded, there will occour a mechanical phase delay which will require energy to sustain. In the video it is a coil over a magnet, and a pendulum. When the coil is loaded enough, the coil will try to resist movement, and therfor delay the timing between the pendulum and the movement of the coil. This will constantly fight against the movement in the pendulum, and the pendulum will stop faster.


In the animation: To avoid the sticky spot, I have attached a weight which pulls the whole wheel away from it. However, the timing here is also going out of phase. When the weight is positioned at 5:30 there is a greater attraction between the magnet and the V-track than when the weight is positioned at 6:30. This means that the "notch" the weight is causing is not symetrical in velocity and kinetic energy. This non-symetry will require energy input because there is less total suspension at 6:30, than 5:30 due to the different magnetic attractions.


In both experiments the energy is conserved.


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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2012, 01:35:48 AM »
In both experiments the energy is conserved.
i agree,
but first, there’s no need for V-shape track, any unclosed magnetic loop creates a magnetic “drag” between it’s ends,
second, to overcome a “sticky point” between ends needa get either fast switching polarity of stator’s magnet or move magnet out or move a stator out, they call it a commutation,
so since unbalanced (in milkovich way) rotor has some movements (in steady mode of rotation) it’s possible to find the spot where the ends of the loop can be placed against stator's magnet for gravity commutation;
so, in your animation it’s already done – unbalanced rotor has a trajectory where it could be seen a lower point of rotor, so this’s the spot  for stator’s magnet where the ends of the loop (any configuration) can be placed for commutation
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Re: Self-sustaining Magnetic Machine That Works! Eliminated the "Sticky Spot"
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