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Offline wizkycho

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2005, 08:57:34 AM »
pinobot

pinobot, If You are not one of the ignorant liers, You will now
provide factual explanation to me and others why do you think that this is not
most advanced SMOT ever made.

thx in advance
There's nothing to explain, the amounth of power transfered between the balls i whats keeping the balls
from moving past the sticky spot in the first place, so its the same as
having 1 ball only worse because you can't use the full length of the ramp.


 In this SMOT setup Magnets ARE NOT positioned to make Ramp so ball doesn't have to climb but complete gained energy transferes to the other ball which will (there is no reason it wan't)
ROLLAWAY.....!!!!YupiiYaiYe!!!!!!!.to the next SMOT ........ and so the future begins now !

                         Have You seen Jeans rollaway test exp.
                         Have You seen Adsitts two balls bumps from magnet exp.

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2005, 08:57:34 AM »

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2005, 09:24:57 AM »
haha 3 posts for one Answer?

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2005, 09:33:04 AM »
additional explanation

there is only one stycky point (stable point) where ball will stuck and this is where magnetizm is strongest at the end of SMOT unit.
That point is very narrow.

If the other accelerated ball with Ek kick the first ball two things happens:
 ?First ball is more or less removed from it's stable point. (better more than less, depends on Ek of the second ball)
 ?Now both balls tries to get to that stable point.
 ?Scince second ball is still in between magnets, flux will mostly be closed around second ball
 ? ?leaving first ball ALLMOST free to rollaway.....
 ?When second ball stycks (gains stable point) complete mag flux goes through it and second ball is COMPLETELY
 ? ?free to rollaway.....to next smot.

to repeat:
 ? SMOT unit is not ramped - ball is not climbing and it doesn't drop it bumps to next one.


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« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2005, 09:33:04 AM »
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Offline wizkycho

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2005, 09:35:20 AM »
haha 3 posts for one Answer?

connection or session is sometimes lost on my PC not telling if the message was sent or not. sorry

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2005, 03:16:41 PM »
out topic:
why those people never see that real media files suck !?

@wizkycho: i think this smot circle work - i will try to test and improve it

please try it for I don't have NdFeB magnets 25 to 30 cm long. I will but... idea is NOW, replication is...when i get the magnets. You only need two magnets so the north closses with south. One magnet is not sufficient because it will
have opened flux lines at the exit of SMOT so bumped ball might return. and Try to keep distance between
ball (at the exit that will be bumped) and magnets.

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« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2005, 03:16:41 PM »
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Re: SMOT
« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2005, 06:26:15 AM »
"pinobot, If You are not one of the ignorant liers, You will now
provide factual explanation to me and others why do you think that this is not most advanced SMOT ever made...please comment it...Where are You all?".
-  There's nothing to comment. Dead duck. One magnet will hit another, both will move a little bit further, and that's it. Both sit dead. Try if anybody want. I did. Just for fan. Nothing. And can't be.

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« Reply #81 on: June 24, 2005, 08:37:54 AM »
"pinobot, If You are not one of the ignorant liers, You will now
provide factual explanation to me and others why do you think that this is not most advanced SMOT ever made...please comment it...Where are You all?".
- There's nothing to comment. Dead duck. One magnet will hit another, both will move a little bit further, and that's it. Both sit dead. Try if anybody want. I did. Just for fan. Nothing. And can't be.

sorry for "strong" words but just telling it wan't work without any fact to go with that conclusion...

exp. Your magnets are to close to a ball and/or your magnets are too short 25 to 30 cm 5mm thick requiered (NdFeB).
Why NdFeB ? is a must - so you can make sufficient distance between ball and magnets and still have enough "room" to widen entrance of SMOT and make neccesery mag flux gradinet change that still interacts with ball that enters.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2005, 08:48:28 AM by wizkycho »

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« Reply #82 on: June 24, 2005, 09:20:03 AM »
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« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2005, 04:08:46 PM »
"telling it wan't work without any fact"
- It is a fact. I never tell anything before i try(but people here do), of course when it make sense...

"...is a must"
- Maybe, but to run a system we need a solid impact (to transfer the impulse), not a soft, as it take place on your scheme.
The stronger magnets the stronger force that does not allow to separate the magnets.

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« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2005, 04:08:46 PM »
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Re: SMOT
« Reply #84 on: July 25, 2005, 07:17:29 AM »
I just posted in the Finsrud section , did not know there was a SMOT diicussion in Mag Mtrs.

I've read all 9 pages..... Am I right in assuming that no one has gotten a SMOT to circulate more that a couple of times?

My design is very much like a SMOT but the magnets are arranged a bit diiferent.

Fiirst off to the guy that thinks the SMOT is a waste of time.

I am just a regular guy not a scientist or even an avid researcher. I enjoy reading about and "Tinkering" with the idea of
perpetual motion and free energy when I have free time. Instead of reading novels or crossword puzzels I spend my free time on OU & FE.

At first I was thinking of building a Bedini Mtr but after reading about the SMOT I was hooked. It seemed very easy to understand and more importantly cheap to build.


SMALL STEPS... thats how I work.

I first built a SMOT according to Greg's plans.. It worked just like he said it would. I used U-Channel stock as my track.
In my first tests I could get the ball brg to climb right up and exit the ramp onto the table. I thought I really had something there but what I did not take into account was the U-Channel was about a 3/4" tall, so did I really gain that much having the ball brg land on the table? I think I could get the same results or very close just by raising the ramp 3/4" and letting the ball roll off the end.

What I need to do is start on a flat plane and end up on the same plane with some forward motion. Breaking past the magnetic gate wiith momentum was my goal.

I'll let you know as to my progress.


Cheers!
« Last Edit: July 25, 2005, 08:49:59 AM by Limoman7 »

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #85 on: July 26, 2005, 11:20:31 PM »
This is a great discussion, I have built the magnetic tip device and am pleased to sy it works, I will post a vid when i get my digi cam next mth. I think thi smot thats looped sould work and remember a thousand different designs are avail.. shit . I can think of two ways to make this more efficient, using an electro magnet right before the sticky spot that is optically tripped to accellerate the impacting ball and it would allow for easier release of the impacted ball I suppose it could be above the track. Im sure to the proper scale it would be ou even with elecmags. so the elec mag is on when the ball reaches half then the ball accellerates hits the other ball then rests in the sticky spot to await a kick in the ass! shit its basically a lev train!!! and the other tweek I  suppose you could also accellerate the bal with declines after the ball is released from the sticky spot.

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2006, 05:34:20 PM »
so....
topic dead, nothing works and no new videos?

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #87 on: June 11, 2006, 06:07:54 PM »
so....
topic dead, nothing works and no new videos?

It looked like it worked in the video, but the strength from such a motor would be very slight and slow.

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #88 on: June 11, 2006, 07:41:03 PM »
so....
topic dead, nothing works and no new videos?

The video shows the ball coming up the ramp, drop and roll away. Brilliant. So what is stopping people to make a longer ramp to lift the darn ball 10 cm vertically and use a plastic tube to bring the ball to the beginning?

Videos please.


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Re: SMOT
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2006, 08:33:01 PM »
Maybe people realized that for such thing to be useful and able to powerup a small city the balls would have to be HUGE probably bigger than earth, with magnets outside of solar system :)

Anyway, videos are always welcomed :)

 

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