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Offline alan2here

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #120 on: November 01, 2006, 09:18:58 PM »
why not make the whole thing circular?

Like this




(http://www.hcrs.at/BILDER/SMOT3.JPG)

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #120 on: November 01, 2006, 09:18:58 PM »

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #121 on: November 01, 2006, 10:07:50 PM »
@alan2here,

This looks just fine but is it making full turns?

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #122 on: November 04, 2006, 01:19:39 PM »
I found the picture on the internet, I havn't built it myself, just making the point that if the ball fell onto the start it would be ready to go again, so make it spiral shaped, with the magnets starting at one end and ending above them having gone around a complete turn. so not quite like picture that but simmerlar.

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #122 on: November 04, 2006, 01:19:39 PM »
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Re: SMOT
« Reply #123 on: November 04, 2006, 03:47:23 PM »
why not make the whole thing circular?

This is turning into the TOMI track:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magnetic_Motors:PM3
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Re: SMOT
« Reply #124 on: November 06, 2006, 01:10:53 PM »
I would like people to take a look at what I have come up with so far (drawings only)
(http://us.f6.yahoofs.com/blog/454e0fa5z20e652b3/1/__hr_/b124.jpg?mg4WzTFBKMWWJAxG) I hope this works if not then check out my blog:
http://uk.360.yahoo.com/shiptodruid

edit: oops its come out full size anyone tell me how I alter it to a thumbnail?

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #125 on: November 06, 2006, 08:07:48 PM »
added the bottom part of my idea now. I look forward to any comments about it

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16 modified Reverse - SMOTs in a circle
« Reply #126 on: November 15, 2006, 09:08:51 PM »
What's your opinion?

(http://www.schmalenbach.de/bild_01.jpg) Patent pending


Videos here:

http://www.schmalenbach.de/video3.mpg

http://www.schmalenbach.de/video2.mpg

Best view with Windows Media Player.

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« Last Edit: July 26, 2007, 04:39:03 PM by peter_schmalenbach »

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16 modified Reverse - SMOTs in a circle
« Reply #126 on: November 15, 2006, 09:08:51 PM »
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Offline alan2here

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #127 on: November 15, 2006, 09:47:36 PM »
yep :?) like a said, circular, only the end needs to finish higher than the start, shurly that can happen with the conevtonal (two rows of magnets spaced out with spacers) SMOT method, just in a circle so the end finsihes over the start?

You'r thing does look verry impressive though.


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Re: SMOT
« Reply #128 on: November 15, 2006, 09:52:44 PM »
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Re: 16 modified Reverse - SMOTs in a circle
« Reply #129 on: November 16, 2006, 01:35:41 AM »
What's your opinion?

Videos here:

http://www.schmalenbach.de/video1.mpg

http://www.schmalenbach.de/video2.mpg


this looks very cool! have you tried holding a magnet above the spot where it stops?

keep trying! i still think you can get it to keep going.

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Re: 16 modified Reverse - SMOTs in a circle
« Reply #130 on: November 16, 2006, 12:07:04 PM »
Hello djancak,

we are looking for companies which have a laser cutter for the hollows (depressions).
Then the ball will pass the last 3 mm.
All stages must have accurately the same characteristics (features).

The sticky point is the connection of the end and the begin of the circle. This is at the moment between (among) the stages 14 and 15. If I adjust the stages 14 and 15 in the same way as the other good stages, then change the stages 11, 12, 13 and 16, 1 and 2 their (its) characteristics. The whole is a coherent (linked) magnetic field.

Werner Heisenberg (Nobel prize winner), Germany, said 1950:
A motor, only built up with magnets is possible, but we scientifically idiots cannot construct it. That only can make an outsider!


Best regards
Peter Schmalenbach

More details (Pictures, drawings, but text in German):
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http://www.schmalenbach.de/video3.mpg      (Ball gets more speed during the run in the circle)

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« Last Edit: November 18, 2006, 12:55:37 PM by peter_schmalenbach »

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Re: 16 modified Reverse - SMOTs in a circle
« Reply #130 on: November 16, 2006, 12:07:04 PM »
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Re: SMOT
« Reply #131 on: November 18, 2006, 01:48:06 AM »
@peter_schmalenbach,

Could you please cite the source of Heisenberg?s quotation in your post?

As for the laser cutter, I?m afraid the problem may be more complex than merely the adjustment of stages 14 and 15 as the other good stages through cutting the track with a laser cutter. It seems that because the equal in shape magnets differ in their magnetic properties some kind of a ?superpole? develops when placed in a perfect circle, causing the sticky spot. Thus, to make the magnetic field really homogeneous and symmetric more adjustment of the magnets is needed which may lead to the structure appearing quite non-symmetric.

As an example you may take a look at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2383887636280790847 where you can probably see that the magnets are not placed symmetrically on both sides of the ramp. The video shows a SMOT which only works if the magnets are adjusted in a certain non-symmetrical fashion. The shown construction, nevertheless, is still not optimized and needs more adjustment. In order for the SMOT to work optimally a lot of tweaking is needed and that does not necessarily mean that the construction will end up being symmetric. It seems that the essence of making a good SMOT (raising the ball to a greater height) and especially of making a closed-loop SMOT is to have a proper construction of the device which would allow for a precise adjustment of the magnets.

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Re: SMOT / Heisenberg
« Reply #132 on: November 19, 2006, 02:58:52 PM »

Could you please cite the source of Heisenberg?s quotation in your post?


Hello Omnibus,

thank you for your reply.

Please search in Google.com "Werner Heisenberg Magnetic Field Energy"  or similar.

http://www.google.de/search?q=Werner+Heisenberg+Magnetic+Field+Energy&btnG=Suche&hl=de&newwindow=1

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #133 on: November 22, 2006, 07:00:45 AM »
@peter_schmalencach,

The only references to Heisenberg regarding the quotations in questions I was able to find were in:

http://www.datadiwan.de/magazin/dz0113e_.htm#impossible

and

http://magneticpowerinc.com/exec.html

These are websites, however, and therefore are unreliable as a source. Do you know of any peer-reviewed publication which might contain these Heisenberg?s words?

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Re: SMOT
« Reply #134 on: November 22, 2006, 11:10:54 AM »
Hi Omnibus,

in this Artikel is noted:

Already around 1950, Nobel prize winner Werner Heisenberg (1901-1976) had said that it should be possible to use magnetism as a source of energy. He added: ?But we science idiots will never make it; it has to be done by outsiders".

More here, but in German:

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=Werner+Heisenberg+Energie+wir+wissenschaftsidioten&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=lr%3Dlang_de

"Dazu geh?ren viele Ger?te, die mit bestimmten Anordnungen von Magneten arbeiten und bisher wenig bekannte Effekte von Magnetfeldern ausnutzen. Bereits Nobelpreistr?ger Werner Heisenberg sagte, es m?sse m?glich sein, den Magnetismus als Energiequelle zu nutzen, wobei er hinzuf?gte: ?Aber wir Wissenschaftsidioten schaffen es nicht; das muss von Aussenseitern kommen?. Dabei wird gem?ss Schneider entweder (a) mechanische Energie in elektrische Energie umgewandelt; (b) durch die Nutzung der Anziehungs- bzw. Abstossungskraft von starken Permanentmagneten mechanische Energie aus dem Magnetfeld erzeugt; (c) direkt elektrische Energie aus rotierenden Magnetfeldern erzeugt (hierher geh?rt die sogenannte ?N-Maschine?); (d) elektrische Energie durch periodische zeitliche oder r?umliche Variation von Magnetfeldern erzeugt (wie in der sogenannten ?Kromrey-Maschine? aus Genf); oder (e) es wird Energie aus dem Vorgang der Ummagnetisierung zur?ckgewonnen (dieses Prinzip ben?tzt z.B. eine Erfindung des Wiener Ingenieurs Franz Seidl)."


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Peter Schmalenbach

 

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