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Author Topic: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research  (Read 71258 times)

Offline broli

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2011, 11:13:15 AM »
It was just a joke. So many others that have invented free energy has in history allways claimed their findings but never been able to get it on tape. When someone ask for a video, the camcorder does not work, or some parts in the design are missing/stolen/defective/blown up.


I have now choosen to believe that you are on the right track, even though I have a bad feeling. I choose to believe because I have not sufficient knowledge about magnetism, or your future design, to determine wether it will work or not.


I would like to try the bicycle chains to separate them with a magnet, and see if the magnet will continue to attract the part ahead where the chains are together. Drawing will be posted some time.


Vidar

A solution to that "issue" had been suggested already, look here:

http://www.overunity.com/11309/your-should-be-able-to-understand-this-little-jewel/msg298140/#msg298140

Basically you leave the pieces that were opened, open for a little longer so the magnet tends to be attracted more to the closed pieces eliminating a potential balance.

I think this general concept is not suffering from bad design, countless potential designs have been proposed, but from a major lack of attention.

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2011, 06:02:53 PM »
I asked someone claiming on Twitter to get the plans working in two days if any reputable builder ever managed. Of course, no response.

Every inventor sets its own standards for proof. None seems to ever be interested to use existing ones accepted by a large group of peers, calling them uneducated or something similar.


Seriously, if I can be explained an OU magnet concept, I am quite confident that I can design a self-runner for it, in a matter of hours if not minutes.
The way I see an OU magnet concept, the gain will be so significant, that half my humble IQ would suffice to make a self-runner.
When you show a 10 year old child. "Here I show you how to hold magnets, such that they move by themselves without getting stuck. Now here is all the Lego you want. Build a self-running engine, and you get to keep all the Lego.
You won't have time to set up your camera to record the design process. It will be right there and then.


I cannot believe that a grown man will invent an OU technology which is all mechanical (magnets), post video's labeled proof, and then need weeks, months, years, to get it past the 1 cycle threshold. I think the LaFonte team is being too easy on itself.

   Cloxxki,
 This video has been discussed before in this forum. I think what he understands is that a magnets field is limited to the space in front of the 2 north poles. And if the magnet on the motor is moving away from the north pole of the opposing magnet when it enters it's field, it will spin.
 If this is why it works, it is also why shielding is not needed. As such, power less than the difference of the 2 repulsing north poles could be generated. Simply because less energy would be generated than is available. Still, it would be energy generation with no energy consumption or waste.
 
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2011, 06:22:22 PM »
has anyone physically verified if this works or not if so have you tried to slap a half circle of coppper coils on the opposite side to generate some power?


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2011, 06:22:22 PM »
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2011, 09:46:17 PM »
has anyone physically verified if this works or not if so have you tried to slap a half circle of coppper coils on the opposite side to generate some power?

  For a time, Stefan had on the front page a magnetic moter demonstration. as such, motors can drive generators or alternators.
 

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2011, 01:12:21 AM »
Low-Q, if you ever want to post to me direct by email just et me know.
Butch
I will try here from my computer at home


The chains are separted apart by the magnet. The chains will try to push the wheel apart. The wheels are fixed to the magnet and will be pushed to the right - the same direction that the magnet wants to go.
Thats the idea anyway.

EDIT: This is a similar design to what I posted in another thread a year ago or so (I cannot remember the name of that thread - or the design)

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2011, 05:07:52 PM »
I will try here from my computer at home


The chains are separted apart by the magnet. The chains will try to push the wheel apart. The wheels are fixed to the magnet and will be pushed to the right - the same direction that the magnet wants to go.
Thats the idea anyway.

EDIT: This is a similar design to what I posted in another thread a year ago or so (I cannot remember the name of that thread - or the design)

Vidar
Vidar,
We are finding designs I just can't believe. Will talk soon.
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #66 on: December 19, 2011, 12:57:38 PM »
Vidar,
We are finding designs I just can't believe. Will talk soon.
Butch
I guess you've been at the scrapyard already searching for old bicycle chains! :)


Br.


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #67 on: December 19, 2011, 07:41:27 PM »
I guess you've been at the scrapyard already searching for old bicycle chains! :)


Br.


Vidar

Of course there is always beltdrive.  :)

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2011, 06:35:19 AM »
Of course there is always beltdrive.  :)
It appears that it would be a static situation? Have you tried to build a test fixture?
Butch

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #68 on: December 20, 2011, 06:35:19 AM »
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #69 on: December 20, 2011, 12:29:54 PM »
It appears that it would be a static situation? Have you tried to build a test fixture?
Butch
If you refer to my drawing?


It could be a static situation due to following explanations:


The chain will arrange the magnetic flux mostly in the direction of the chain before it returns to the magnet - because iron conduct magnetism better than air. This will cause the magnetic flux inside the chais to not "see" eachother. Hence the chains will not separate at all, or just bearly.


If there is a magnetic separation between the chains, it will be the force acting on the two wheels which will be the drive mechanism and not the magnetic forces directly. However, the magnet is attracted to the chains in the part where they are in process of separation and pull the chains away from the wheels.


Maybe the wheels should be placed closer to the magnet, or even right under it. Maybe the magnet should cover a greater area.


To help myself visualizing the situation one should think of a reason why the chain would move if the magnet and wheels are stationary - i see that it's harder to imagine why that should work even if it's the very same design. It's not that "obvious" anymore.


I got to disassamble my kids bicycles this evening ;D


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2011, 02:20:25 AM »
I have done fairly extensive work along these lines so I will attempt to explain why this does not work.
The reason the chain would try to separate is because the metal becomes a magnet that repels the nearby link that also becomes a magnet under the field of the primary magnet.
The problem is that the nearby links cannot become as magnetic as they would become if they were a single link because the nearby link prevents it by being of the same polarity. So as it separates, the metal becomes more attracted to the primary magnet than when it was close together.

With some steel rails in a < , the magnet will attract more to the wider area. at least to the point where the metal becomes the most transformed into a magnet itself.
 

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2011, 10:11:02 AM »
I have some iron wire that I can shape like that and see how the magnet will respond to that shape.


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New switch design incorporated in LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid design, video's
« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2011, 04:24:59 AM »
See attached drawing and I will be posting proof of concept video's tonight and post links. The design has a 90 degree repulsion mode and then switches to a 90 degree attraction mode. Then starts the cycle again. Switch aspect tested in video as well as repulsion and attraction modes.
Butch LaFonte
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Correction on switcher operational sequence, see drawing
« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2011, 05:03:09 PM »
The operational sequence of the switcher in the Pseudo Solid LaFonte Group Motor/Generator has been changed. See attached drawing.
Butch

 

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