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Author Topic: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research  (Read 70332 times)

Offline powercat

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2011, 05:14:00 PM »
If we get a self runner, it will go on public display full time, around the clock, seven days a week.
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why are you saying that, your title says   (Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets)

I look forward to seeing your working device.

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2011, 06:15:58 PM »
why are you saying that, your title says   (Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets)

I look forward to seeing your working device.
I asked someone claiming on Twitter to get the plans working in two days if any reputable builder ever managed. Of course, no response.

Every inventor sets its own standards for proof. None seems to ever be interested to use existing ones accepted by a large group of peers, calling them uneducated or something similar.


Seriously, if I can be explained an OU magnet concept, I am quite confident that I can design a self-runner for it, in a matter of hours if not minutes.
The way I see an OU magnet concept, the gain will be so significant, that half my humble IQ would suffice to make a self-runner.
When you show a 10 year old child. "Here I show you how to hold magnets, such that they move by themselves without getting stuck. Now here is all the Lego you want. Build a self-running engine, and you get to keep all the Lego.
You won't have time to set up your camera to record the design process. It will be right there and then.


I cannot believe that a grown man will invent an OU technology which is all mechanical (magnets), post video's labeled proof, and then need weeks, months, years, to get it past the 1 cycle threshold. I think the LaFonte team is being too easy on itself.

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2011, 02:00:53 AM »
I cannot believe that a grown man will invent an OU technology which is all mechanical (magnets), post video's labeled proof, and then need weeks, months, years, to get it past the 1 cycle threshold. I think the LaFonte team is being too easy on itself.

One of the things I was taught growing up to become a "grown man" was that when getting in a debate that adults with good manners gave their full name before the debate began. I apologize if your screen name is your full name.
Butch LaFonte
 

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2011, 02:00:53 AM »
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2011, 05:25:00 PM »
Totally non-related to our design.
Butch
I understand your design. You can separate metal pieces with a magnet. You want to make a chain of pieces so the magnet can separate them in order.


However, there is a problem with the design. When you have an array of metal pieces, the pieces that is located in front and behind the magnets will be magnetized in a way that they attract the next pair in the chain. This attraction will partially prevent you from separating the metal pieces that is located right between the magnets. The metal pieces right between the magnets will drag with them the previous and the next metal piece pairs also. THis will prevent a full space between the pieces, and also reduce the attraction to the next pair in order to separate them too.


It is simple to test, if you haven't already, I am sure you will find this out sooner or later.


Unfortunatly I have no good idea to come around the problem. I'll think about it.


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2011, 11:11:10 PM »
I understand your design. You can separate metal pieces with a magnet. You want to make a chain of pieces so the magnet can separate them in order.


However, there is a problem with the design. When you have an array of metal pieces, the pieces that is located in front and behind the magnets will be magnetized in a way that they attract the next pair in the chain. This attraction will partially prevent you from separating the metal pieces that is located right between the magnets. The metal pieces right between the magnets will drag with them the previous and the next metal piece pairs also. THis will prevent a full space between the pieces, and also reduce the attraction to the next pair in order to separate them too.

Please look at the pendulum video mark did and you will see that there is no problem what so ever with the design. In fact the main power comes from the attraction of the magnet to the next closed set.
Please look at our video's on our youtube web site, lafonte research.
Butch

It is simple to test, if you haven't already, I am sure you will find this out sooner or later.


Unfortunatly I have no good idea to come around the problem. I'll think about it.


Vidar

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2011, 01:32:13 AM »
Vidar, Please look at Marks pendlum video. It shows plane as day the is no problem with the principle. Also please see video's on youtube at our site, lafonte research.
Thanks,
Butch laFonte

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2011, 06:48:22 AM »
Vidar, Please look at Marks pendlum video. It shows plane as day the is no problem with the principle. Also please see video's on youtube at our site, lafonte research.
Thanks,
Butch laFonte

 I did watch those videos and it is plain as day that they show no proof of overunity. Calculate the actions and stop kidding yourself.

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #52 on: December 12, 2011, 07:02:40 PM »
Vidar, Please look at Marks pendlum video. It shows plane as day the is no problem with the principle. Also please see video's on youtube at our site, lafonte research.
Thanks,
Butch laFonte
I look forward to see a working prototype, and I hope to see no excuse like "problems with the design", "Mark has retired", We need to make some adjustments", "We are not able to make it work again because we tried to adjust it", "...and my camcorder did not work when the machine ran for several hours". ;)


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2011, 10:05:31 PM »
Butch, I respect your choice to post your full name, but I call, SHOUT b-s that a grown man should always do so in an arguement.
Only grey, old, grumpy folks ever come with that kind of demand. Don't deal with the internet if you can't deal with it.


Your name offers no added value to your claimes, and my lack of name doesn't take away from mine.
Recently I did share my name, and immediately I had a very intrusive email stalker, involving many people I did not know. Doing so with his name seemed to make it alright for him to invade my privacy, insult me, threaten me, etc.


I have around 100,000 web posts to this nickname over the past decade or longer, in 4 languages on various fields of interest. I have a very consistent open source posting style. Supportive yet critical. This is as good as an identity as they come.
I happen to be a pretty bright guy, IQ and EQ tests tell me so. If you can't explain me why you've got OU with a 4-part device, you're going to have a really hard time going past one full rotation in any variation to it. Convince me though, and before you know it, open source designs based on your finding will start popping up on you.


Just making video of a moving magnet and pointing at it doesn't make you the great inventor that gave the world overunity. We had cloudseeder who thought the same thing. He gave the world his work, they only had to build it, so he could go on to next great inventions. Vague discriptions, no math, no loop or full rotation.


The hardest job for successful OU inventors, is to get across the message. Dozens may have had a working device in their workshops, working an working for days on end without input. But no-one ever managed to explain it sufficiently to someone to replicate and document once and for all.


I am here to help you. I am a novice in OU research, but I learn quickly and am determined to help advance its arrival, and subsequent implementation.


In magnets, you're always presented by a problem, which can usually be overcome. Only to immediately present the next problem. That's the stage in which you are now, as far as I can tell. You can't say that you have OU, when you haven't solve the current problem without getting a new one in return.


Good luck,


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2011, 03:53:32 AM »
I look forward to see a working prototype, and I hope to see no excuse like "problems with the design", "Mark has retired", We need to make some adjustments", "We are not able to make it work again because we tried to adjust it", "...and my camcorder did not work when the machine ran for several hours". ;)


Vidar
Vidar, We have never made any of these statements that I can recall? The camcorder thing for sure.
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« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2011, 03:57:58 AM »
With state of the art materals and magnets we should be able to go to a factor of 100.
Will keep you posted.
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2011, 03:16:09 PM »
Vidar, We have never made any of these statements that I can recall? The camcorder thing for sure.
Butch
It was just a joke. So many others that have invented free energy has in history allways claimed their findings but never been able to get it on tape. When someone ask for a video, the camcorder does not work, or some parts in the design are missing/stolen/defective/blown up.


I have now choosen to believe that you are on the right track, even though I have a bad feeling. I choose to believe because I have not sufficient knowledge about magnetism, or your future design, to determine wether it will work or not.


I would like to try the bicycle chains to separate them with a magnet, and see if the magnet will continue to attract the part ahead where the chains are together. Drawing will be posted some time.


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2011, 04:06:41 PM »
Hmmmm, I cannot upload pictures. 56kB, 510x286 pixels JPEG. It is against the security policy or something....

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2011, 11:21:47 PM »
Low-Q, if you ever want to post to me direct by email just et me know.
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2011, 10:29:53 AM »
Low-Q, if you ever want to post to me direct by email just et me know.
Butch
Good idea :)  I'll send you my pic asap. - When I come home from work - I do not have your email here at work.

 

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