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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2011, 02:53:06 AM »
I'm sorry, but I really can't see in which part the pendulum in the video is suppose to be over unity. None of the three videos shows this clear to me. What energy was used to position the pendulum in the first place?


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The pendulum has nothing to do with the system other than make the magnet assembly move with low friction.
The system operation has been explained countless times, it's so very, very, simple in it's operation. The video was not to show a self runner, but the first step toward a self runner.
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2011, 02:56:06 AM »
Research our Youtube web site, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2011, 03:17:43 AM »
 Here is a way that will help you.
 Build two or more large curved sections of magnetic arrays. Wrap the each array with a coil of wire from the start to end at the 3/4 lenth of the array. Make sure a runner can enter and pass thru each one. Attach each coil to it's own cap. Then rap the last 1/4 of arrays with another coil. Now create a trigger and place it just before the end of each array. Attach to both the cap and end coil so that everytime the runner passes the trigger, it will dump the cap into the coil reversing the polarityof the field to repell the runner out. After that all is done you should end up with at least a propetual motion or maybe some extra. Make sure the arrays are placed far enough from each other to keep the magnetic feilds from touching. Then wrap all the arrays with a coil leaving a breaking point before the end of the coil reaches it's starting point. The attach the coil to either a cap or battery using diodes to keep the collected source from keeping the coil energized.
 I shouldn't have to draw a picture but if I need to, just ask.

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Children's story about LaFonte Group Pseudo Solid Fanner Motor/Generator
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2011, 03:56:15 AM »
The Horseshoe Magnet That Discovered The Fanner Effect The Wrong Way
I'm a horseshoe magnet and I like to gobble up steel he would always boast! One day while looking for steel he found a strange role of square steel plates in a long line. They lay there two plates side by side, then two more, then two more, they went on like that for a mile at least!
What a great dinner this was! He put the ends of his horse over the middle of the first two plates so he could chomp down on them and gobble them up! But to his suprise the two plates jumped apart! Well that didn't bother him because just ahead was two more plates and they were pulling on him so hard! They pulled him in and just as the ends of this hungry magnet got right over the middle of the two steel plates they seperated too! So he pulled to the next set of plates and the same thing happened! This kept going on over and over until he was going ever so fast and when he got to the end of the line of steel plates he flew off into the sky and was never seen again! Some people say he landed in Paris and is trying to eat the Eiffel tower!
By Butch and Mark

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2011, 02:13:42 PM »
Ho-ho! That was a good story :)
The story do not tell if the metal plates separated enough to let the magnet attract to the next pair of metal plates. I hope the story is true, except the Eiffeltower part..
Maybe two set of bicycle chains in parallell would be useful for your experiment?

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2011, 03:14:32 PM »
This is the reason why your experiment probably will fail. A small magnet will limit the ability to separate the iron parts if the iron parts is bigger than the magnet. In this case the iron parts attract each other. If the magnet was much wider, the iron parts would separate until maximum attraction occours between the magnet and the two iron parts. At that point the magnet will not freely move on to the next iron parts in order to separate them too.


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2011, 04:36:55 PM »
This is the reason why your experiment probably will fail. A small magnet will limit the ability to separate the iron parts if the iron parts is bigger than the magnet. In this case the iron parts attract each other. If the magnet was much wider, the iron parts would separate until maximum attraction occours between the magnet and the two iron parts. At that point the magnet will not freely move on to the next iron parts in order to separate them too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhWjn7Dy5Sw



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Vidar you are correct in your setup. But it has been discussed for a while that it's better to use an air gap with a strong uniform field. Since the field is mostly directed in one direction you wouldn't have the issue you show where the field lines disperse too strongly causing a situation where the iron attracts. I recommend you redo the experiment with a setup where you contain the magnetic field with a C type core.

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2011, 03:52:02 AM »
Vidar you are correct in your setup. But it has been discussed for a while that it's better to use an air gap with a strong uniform field. Since the field is mostly directed in one direction you wouldn't have the issue you show where the field lines disperse too strongly causing a situation where the iron attracts. I recommend you redo the experiment with a setup where you contain the magnetic field with a C type core.
Look at our videos of tests Mark did on the bars seperating. Youtube, lafonte research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2011, 03:53:22 AM »
This is the reason why your experiment probably will fail. A small magnet will limit the ability to separate the iron parts if the iron parts is bigger than the magnet. In this case the iron parts attract each other. If the magnet was much wider, the iron parts would separate until maximum attraction occours between the magnet and the two iron parts. At that point the magnet will not freely move on to the next iron parts in order to separate them too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhWjn7Dy5Sw



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Totally non-related to our design.
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2011, 02:51:13 PM »
Vidar you are correct in your setup. But it has been discussed for a while that it's better to use an air gap with a strong uniform field. Since the field is mostly directed in one direction you wouldn't have the issue you show where the field lines disperse too strongly causing a situation where the iron attracts. I recommend you redo the experiment with a setup where you contain the magnetic field with a C type core.
Yes, maybe that will make a difference. I can try to simulate it too also. With the same magnet as in the video, I could separate two hex-wrench which has center-center much closer than the iron powder pieces.


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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2011, 03:42:59 AM »
 I did see the video's and I do not see any chance of the action achieving overunity. What exactly is it that you all think you have achieved?

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2011, 03:44:25 PM »
Come on take a look at the animation that was posted.
If the energy needed to pull two metal pieces apart is less than kinetic energy from the moving swing arm then this is OU.
If not, it was a good try.

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Finally someone understands it!
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2011, 05:51:46 PM »
Come on take a look at the animation that was posted.
If the energy needed to pull two metal pieces apart is less than kinetic energy from the moving swing arm then this is OU.
If not, it was a good try.
About time somebody understood what is going on here. One problem thought, you don't have to pull the bars apart, they seperate by themselfs due to the fanner effect. See the videos Mark did. The fanner effect has been around for 100 years in the metal industry.
It's all positive work, no negative work.
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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2011, 11:08:25 PM »
If it's so simple, what has stood in the way of a runner all this time? And what has been found to solve it? And why don't even the people on this forum see it?
You either are really bad at explaning, or you have a lot of work to do.
Explain the principle, tie it together, and if it's got merit, someone will be able to build it.


In the mean time, I saw a lengthy infomercial on the HoJo Go Green motor plans. http://orlandoramirez.net/ir/Go-Green-HoJo-Motor
Under $50 and $100 in parts! And a better presentation. I am convinced that's a scam though, although I wonder why they'd go through all the trouble of perpetrating it all for this kind of money. There are easier scams that bring more money.

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Re: Video On line, Proof Of Overunity With Permanent Magnets, LaFonte Research
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2011, 03:29:35 PM »
If it's so simple, what has stood in the way of a runner all this time? And what has been found to solve it? And why don't even the people on this forum see it?
You either are really bad at explaning, or you have a lot of work to do.
Explain the principle, tie it together, and if it's got merit, someone will be able to build it.


In the mean time, I saw a lengthy infomercial on the HoJo Go Green motor plans. http://orlandoramirez.net/ir/Go-Green-HoJo-Motor
Under $50 and $100 in parts! And a better presentation. I am convinced that's a scam though, although I wonder why they'd go through all the trouble of perpetrating it all for this kind of money. There are easier scams that bring more money.
The usual red flag as with this presentation is that a working example is not on public display.
If we get a self runner, it will go on public display full time, around the clock, seven days a week.
Butch

 

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