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Author Topic: CONCEPT- plauson atmospheric electrostatic pump  (Read 7948 times)

Offline conderichard

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CONCEPT- plauson atmospheric electrostatic pump
« on: June 19, 2006, 12:21:07 PM »
I have the following idea. Please bear with me.

From Plauson?s GB patent: http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/GB157263.pdf

"In experimenting with "condenser motors" the construction of which forms the object of our copending Application No. 157,262 it was observed that the rotor, if one pole of the stator surface be connected with the aerials collecting aerial electricity and the other pole with the earth, not only could act as a motor, but if vice versa the rotor connection with the stator be interrupted and the rotor caused to rotate by means of another motor, that when the brushes supply an alternating current the periodicity of which is dependent on the number of the poles and the revolutions of the rotor.....
At the commencement it was thought that this apparatus could only be regarded as alternating current converters, but it was soon found that much more energy was necessary to overcome the friction. It was then found that the considerable expenditure of energy for rotating the rotor was caused by a conductor being moved through strongly electrostatic fields since the electrostatic lines of force must be cut at right angles and that further in the conductors a stronger current arose than was otherwise to be expected. This apparatus must therefore not only be regarded as a transformer, but also as an energy producer, with the difference that the excitation here is obtained instead of by means of electromagnets, by static fields of high pressure. The entire system may, to some extent, be compared with a dynamo in which the excitation takes place by means of a fixed constant magnet. It was further ascertained that this way of using the atmospheric electricity produced a sort of suction on the collector network, and that thus suitably greater quantities of current could be obtained".
Gernsback notes in his Feb.1922 article (http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/GernsbackOnPlausonFebruary1922.htm) that ?Plauson also invented a sort of electrostatic rotary transformer which gives alternating current without the use of condensers and transformers. Indeed its output is very great , as it actually ?sucks? the current down rapidly from the collector ballons?.

Does anyone here feel they understand Plauson?s description (see patent) of the "condenser motor" sufficiently to replicate it (I don?t). Would other electrostatic devices (Wimshurst?) be valid here?

A number of points:
1) It seems to me that this may well have been the inspiration behind Baumann?s Testatika. Other than comments having been made of its resemblance to 1920?s machinery, I seem to recall Baumann named the disks ?cloud? and ?earth? or similar.
2) I?d like to see this effect replicated as a wind generator, if viable.
3) Could Jefimenko?s machines (f3wm.free.fr/sciences/jefimenko.html) demonstrate the effect.
4) Would electrets be helpful, as in the previous point, or here http://www.keelynet.com/energy/reac.htm
5) I "see" the aerial/collector on my wind device as rotating with the vanes. What shape should it take? Perhaps a copper spiral as Rayburn(http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/RadiantEnergy/LawrenceRayburn/index.html) found.
6) The device needs to be cheap and easy to build to be worthwhile. Wind generators can be cheaply built which produce several 100 watts. This would have to beat their performance to be worthwhile.

Cheers,
Richard

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Offline Tesla_2006

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Re: CONCEPT- plauson atmospheric electrostatic pump
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2006, 09:21:36 PM »
Is more single the static system are buiding here, the get easy 5 KW

     http://radiantenergy.tk


 That method is only use a single antenna send pulses at 7,8 Hz the same Ionosphere resonance frequency, in that way, waves follow the circle of the Earth, reflects to the starting point and return to the antenna with more energy becesause get more energy in his travel and so later of many cicles of resonance energy level rises up to the KW you need, using a single and static wave generator
 A mechannical device have less performance and life for his mobile parts and more big and more costs and managament

 Bye

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Re: CONCEPT- plauson atmospheric electrostatic pump
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2006, 03:50:53 PM »
I guess this (radiantenergy.tk) is your site (?)
Has intentado replicar el trabajo de Plauson? Si no es as? no s? como puedes juzgarlo como inferior.
Su trabajo parece fascinante pero ni soy t?cnico ni f?sico as? que tampoco entiendo mucho.
Puedes enviar mas detalles en cuanto a esquemas, fotos, etc ?

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Re: CONCEPT- plauson atmospheric electrostatic pump
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2006, 03:50:53 PM »
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Offline the_big_m_in_ok

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Re: CONCEPT- plauson atmospheric electrostatic pump
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 04:11:58 AM »
I guess this (radiantenergy.tk) is your site (?)
Has intentado replicar el trabajo de Plauson? Si no es as? no s? como puedes juzgarlo como inferior.
Su trabajo parece fascinante pero ni soy t?cnico ni f?sico as? que tampoco entiendo mucho.
Puedes enviar mas detalles en cuanto a esquemas, fotos, etc ?
Paraphrased translation of the text above into English:

Do yo intend to replicate the work of Plauson?  Yes or no?  How can you judge it to be inferior?
Your work is facinating, but I didn't understand much (of it/what you said.)
Can you upload more details (such as?) how many schematics, photos, etc?


I took Spanish in high school, but even that was 40-45 yrs ago.  I still think I did okay on this paragraph.

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