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Author Topic: Silencing  (Read 14207 times)

gn0stik

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2006, 08:13:43 PM »
The bottom line is this:

JackH has repeatedly posted that once his patents go through, he will release all technical information re: his motors. Once this happens, I personally would pay jack to build me one if he was willing, after conducting some tests to see that the concept was sound. Jack has stated that he has a way to turn off a permanent magnet, if this is so, that's all I would need to test, the rest is self explanatory. If a few people do this, and his plans are available, all anyone would have to do once the information was out there, if anything happened to jack, is hire an engineering company to make one-up models and sell them to interested parties for cost. Part of the sales agreement would be the promise that they would do the same if one was requested by someone else. A grass roots movement would be impossible to stop, and too easy to start, and restart with different engineering and manufacturing companies. With distributors exponentially growing. A few generations out there would be thousands of people offering this service. Nobody could do anything about it.

One thing about the free energy subculture, is that most of us have vested interest in sticking it to the man, so to speak. If anyting dastardly happened to jack, we could spread this thing like a virus with little or no effort(and take pleasure in doing it). And we wouldn't just be doing it for Jack, we'd be doing it for all the inventors that have "had accidents", in every aspect of this field.

Don't lose heart Jack. It IS possible. We CAN win.

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2006, 08:13:43 PM »

jake

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2006, 08:44:05 PM »
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I personally would pay jack to build me one if he was willing, after conducting some tests to see that the concept was sound.

So you have to see it work?  That's a novel concept.

Offline Liberty

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2006, 08:59:12 PM »
Is there a video clip available showing Jack's motor in action? 

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2006, 08:59:12 PM »
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jake

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2006, 09:06:06 PM »
I haven't seen any.  There are some nice pictures though.  First class workmanship.  Probably the best looking prototypes I've seen.

Are there any video's of your motor?  I would like to see them as well.  I saw a small picture of it, but I don't think I've run across video - is there any?

Jake

RonS

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2006, 09:22:30 PM »
All to late as I walked into this with my foot in my mouth!

Does JackH have a web site?, I can look at? I do have a little insight to these things.

Jake! I have no bone to pick with you, I used a ? mark, if I had wanted to point you out I would not have held back on directly using your ID. You have as much right as I to what we feel and speak, if you are a 'Put up or Shutup Man' that's fine, but having been there done that, I kind of go with the flow of experience.

Any help on where I can find what sparked all of this would be of help... Thanks.

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2006, 09:22:30 PM »
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Offline Drak

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2006, 09:30:17 PM »
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they get stomped on by?

  Yes, I reread what I wrote last night. I did come across kinda harsh and I appologize for that. Jack, I am not calling you a scam artist. I have just read about SOO many people that have claimed this or that and nothing ever became of it.

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JackH has repeatedly posted that once his patents go through, he will release all technical information...

  I did not realize this. To me it sounded like he was just trying to prove it to the wrong people and then just shelving his device. In this case I say, Please don't shelve your device. Complete it, get your patents. If in anyway I can help, let me know. My offer still stands as a witness.


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Offline Liberty

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2006, 10:14:26 PM »
Jake,

Yes, I took three movie clips of the motor with my camera (quick time .mov format).  They are about 15 seconds each or so while it was running.  No pictures of the motor starting.  (I didn't have enough hands).  My device is not very refined or highly developed as it is in it's basic raw form being the first prototype, very 'homemade' and hand made. 

I agree with you that Jack has a really fine motor and it looks super too.  He is a very nice inventor to talk to as well.  I respect him very much.  I think that he has something there, and should continue with it and not give up.  I wish him every success with it as his motor looks like a gem and probably runs like a top.

My motor is of a different design totally.  It is a fractional HP design so far.  Only designed to test the principle of the motor, (whether it will run or not, and it did run).  I originally made this motor for myself, just to see if I could make a motor that runs on permanent magnets (mostly).

However, the pictures that I took with the camera show the motor operation very openly and that is what I would have a problem with showing at this time...  I did not think ahead enough to dress it up and hide the critical parts for showing to the public or an interested party when I took the movies.  I was thinking like an inventor and wanted to show how there are not hidden motors, smoking mirrors  etc. and showed it all (like a dummy).   ::)

 I would have to seek legal council first, as to whether an NDA would protect me properly or not, if you want to see the movie/s for evaluation purposes.  I may have to obtain a patent on it first or some method of protection and seek legal council before I do show it. 

Liberty




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Re: Silencing
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2006, 10:14:26 PM »
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jake

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2006, 11:26:46 PM »
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All to late as I walked into this with my foot in my mouth!

Does JackH have a web site?, I can look at? I do have a little insight to these things.

Jake! I have no bone to pick with you, I used a ? mark, if I had wanted to point you out I would not have held back on directly using your ID. You have as much right as I to what we feel and speak, if you are a 'Put up or Shutup Man' that's fine, but having been there done that, I kind of go with the flow of experience.

Any help on where I can find what sparked all of this would be of help... Thanks.

Ron,

Sorry if I over reacted.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,833.0.html contains a link in the first post to pictures of Jack's motors.

gn0stik

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2006, 11:54:00 PM »
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I personally would pay jack to build me one if he was willing, after conducting some tests to see that the concept was sound.

So you have to see it work?  That's a novel concept.


I just need proof of the concept, that is all. Don't put words in my mouth, you'll find I don't appreciate it much.

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2006, 11:54:00 PM »
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jake

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2006, 12:31:53 AM »
Sorry if I erroneously assumed that "conducting some tests" meant you would see it work.  He has already done tests, and he says it works.

Offline Elvis Oswald

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2006, 01:12:12 AM »
I wasn't responding to anyone in paticular when I spoke out for Jack.  :)  And I also completely understand the frustration we all feel about some of the bullshit devices.  Personally I get more frustrated when too much attention is given to the bullshit... as is the case with one certain device that supposedly produces free energy... and a certain someone who is not the inventor... and who does not know how it works, posts parables and rambling essays on the "glory" of free energy and what this device will mean...
Never mind that the damn thing has been around for over 10 years...

But my point is that when people chase riddles from a third party about a dubious device... when some  of them are intelligent people that might add something to the right discussion... that pisses me off.

As far as a conspiracy to supress technology... look no further than the demonization of hemp.  Did that have anything to do with Hearst wanting to make paper out of his timber?  OR DuPont wanting to sell synthetic fiber??
And what about cannabis?  Think the drug companies have anything to gain by keeping it illegal??

Another example is the seatbelt laws we have in every state.  When regulators told automakers to put airbags in cars (which now they do) - the compromise was to get seatbelt laws passed in all the states.  So the automakers lobbied states to pass them.
Or did you think there was a public outcry to institute seatbelt laws??

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2006, 01:12:12 AM »
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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2006, 01:31:53 AM »
"We need the OU-machine !!!"

And then ?
Also thought about the social/economical consequences ?

Will be this "OU-machine" easy to reproduce ?
Will be the "OU-m" portable,can it be micro-/macronized produced/
replicated ?

When we get the 1cent Euro-$/KWH challenge,
then we can change the rules -worldwide!

Before this "status quo",there is only "dreaming"/speculation !!!

S
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gn0stik

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2006, 02:26:23 AM »
Sorry if I erroneously assumed that "conducting some tests" meant you would see it work.  He has already done tests, and he says it works.

ASS-U-ME, I don't need to test his device, I just need a magnet and about 8w of power, to test his concept.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2006, 03:00:08 AM »
Sorry ,Jack H.,for this kind of overunity.com-member-image !
30/5 years of your experimental work against some member-thinking:

You decides how you will entrance with your invention to public,
so probably it will be better to take a "time-out" of this forum !!!

S
  dL

gn0stik

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Re: Silencing
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2006, 04:03:33 AM »
Sorry ,Jack H.,for this kind of overunity.com-member-image !
30/5 years of your experimental work against some member-thinking:

You decides how you will entrance with your invention to public,
so probably it will be better to take a "time-out" of this forum !!!

S
  dL


Don't be dramatic lanca. Nothing is that bad. This is minor squabbling from believers, it's not even resistance. Think of the stuff he will have to weather from the non believers. This forum is, squabbling aside, a safe haven. Sure we get the occasional troll, but for the most part, we're all supportive here. No group larger than one can agree all the time! (Not to mention it's kind of pretentious to apologize for other people. :))

 

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