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Author Topic: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.  (Read 780810 times)

Offline poynt99

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1845 on: April 06, 2012, 07:43:14 PM »
PW,

Yes, I plan on building my circuit to produce a similar negative Wattage computation for battery power.

My circuit is based on Rosemary's, but wouldn't constitute a replication.

Here is my circuit and thread:

http://www.overunity.com/10564/measuring-input-power-accurately-and-with-no-oscilloscope/

Updated circuit and simulations are in second last post.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1846 on: April 06, 2012, 07:44:25 PM »
In all the years that you have been making these claims not one person has ever successfully matched your claims.

I hope to.  :)

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1847 on: April 06, 2012, 07:56:13 PM »
FTC,

In terms of saving threads in PDF format, you simply use your browser to "print to PDF". Of course you need some PDF program installed, such as PDF Creator to do so. Also, you need to do this for every single page of the thread, so you would end up spending some time on this and merging a number of pdf files afterwards.

The job would be made a little easier if you go to your profile settings, Look and Layout, and set your "posts per page" to 50.


.99

Hi Poynt99

Thanks for the posting on the schematic problem of Rosemary's .... I can't understand why any documents that was sent to a accredited journal or magazine would have so many mistakes in it, especially going for a peer review from engineers and academics with possible publication. It seem as you know there's a excuse for every mistake made and nothing a professional would do, then never to correct the mistakes means to me there's a reason Rosemary does this and it's not being honest or honorable in any way.

I found it easy for the PDF to actually do a "copy drag" and a "paste" to Open Office as a document then exporting to a PDF takes a few minutes for each page loading up in the export mode and save it with a file name, it all works as long as the members up-loaded documents don't get deleted at OU ( PDF, Images or photos ) and you get around 14 to 16 PDF pages per one OU page.

http://www.openoffice.org/  " The Apache Software Foundation"  Open Office the Free and Open Productivity Suite

This method is FREE and works great .... I have 150 GB storage at my web site for the future publications in mind.

Regards,
Fuzzy
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1847 on: April 06, 2012, 07:56:13 PM »
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1848 on: April 06, 2012, 08:03:15 PM »
,99 and PW:

I looked at the schematic in the "ROSSI-JOP-1-PDF.pdf" version and I am wondering if that paper is based on the same setup as demonstrated in the video.  The question being is the function generator grounded before the CSR or at the negative terminal of the battery?  Certainly in the demo clip the function generator is grounded directly to the negative terminal of the battery which we know is a mistake.

I whipped up a "double CSR" graphic for consideration.  An interesting test could be done.  You could connect one scope channel to the original CSR (CSR1) and a second scope channel to the "new" CSR  (CSR2).  Then simply invert the CSR2 channel and compare the waveforms.  The new CSR2 is between the battery negative terminal and the common ground point.

CSR2 shows the true current flow through the battery whereas CSR1 does not.

In negatively offset oscillation mode:

CSR2_inverted will be positive for clockwise current (battery discharging)
CSR2_inverted will be negative for counterclockwise current (battery charging)
CSR1 will be positive for oscillator output positive voltage  (current from oscillator to ground) ("looks like" clockwise current)
CSR1 will be negative for oscillator output negative voltage  (current ground to oscillator)  ("looks like" counterclockwise current)

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« Last Edit: April 07, 2012, 12:27:50 AM by MileHigh »

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1849 on: April 06, 2012, 08:05:07 PM »
I can't seem to get my graphic image to appear in the posting and I can't download it.  I am wondering if it is a problem with the forum software.  The new CSR2 is between the battery negative terminal and the common ground point.

Poynt:  Modifying the message doesn't seem to work either.   Perhaps I went past an image uploading and display quota or something.

Fuzzy:  I just removed all of the spaces and replaced them with underscores and still no luck.

Poynt:  Your pdf attachment doesn't work either!  lol

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1849 on: April 06, 2012, 08:05:07 PM »
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1850 on: April 06, 2012, 08:10:30 PM »
Try modifying your message and reattach the png file.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1851 on: April 06, 2012, 08:11:55 PM »
I can't seem to get my graphic image to appear in the posting and I can't download it.  I am wondering if it is a problem with the forum software.  The new CSR2 is between the battery negative terminal and the common ground point.

Hey MH,

The same thing happened to TK last night in a posting of his .... sometimes I found it's the format of the file "name" using spaces or something not recognized by the forum software.

FTC
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1851 on: April 06, 2012, 08:11:55 PM »
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1852 on: April 06, 2012, 08:15:09 PM »
FTC,

Here is what it looks like with 25 posts saved using PDF Creator (free).

.99

PS. I think PDF Creator does a nicer/better job than Open Office.  :)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

ETA: I removed the pdf because it is being corrupted via the upload.
 
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 10:45:56 PM by poynt99 »

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1853 on: April 06, 2012, 08:31:08 PM »
FTC,

Here is what it looks like with 25 posts saved using PDF Creator (free).

.99

PS. I think PDF Creator does a nicer/better job than Open Office.  :)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

Hi .99

I use to use that but if some one opening the PDF only has "Adobe" for file reading like most users ..... it won't open the file up and you get a error message, like I just got.

So everyone would have to have "PDF creator" .... whom Adobe hates.

Best,
Fuzzy
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1853 on: April 06, 2012, 08:31:08 PM »
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1854 on: April 06, 2012, 08:49:25 PM »
I can't seem to get my graphic image to appear in the posting and I can't download it.  I am wondering if it is a problem with the forum software.  The new CSR2 is between the battery negative terminal and the common ground point.

Poynt:  Modifying the message doesn't seem to work either.   Perhaps I went past an image uploading and display quota or something.

Fuzzy:  I just removed all of the spaces and replaced them with underscores and still no luck.

Poynt:  Your pdf attachment doesn't work either!  lol

Hi MH,

The other option is if you have Microsoft "Paint" open your file there and do a "save as" to another image format .... JPEG or TIFF, that might work   ;)

Fuzzy
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1855 on: April 06, 2012, 09:02:43 PM »
MH,

I have always considered that if the FG signal common was connected to Bat- instead of to the CSR, that only the DC bias when Q2 is biased on would be unaccounted for by the CSR readings.  In hindsight, one must also add an AC path whose reactance is equal to the FG test lead capacitance as well as the FG out to FG chassis capacitance (which I would suspect would be much lower than the test lead capacitance).

Although this FG/FG lead capacitance AC path would still be less robust than the path provided by the MOSFET's Ciss reactance, the AC and DC current bypassing the CSR does begin to add significant errors.

PW

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1855 on: April 06, 2012, 09:02:43 PM »
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1856 on: April 06, 2012, 10:05:02 PM »
Hi .99

I use to use that but if some one opening the PDF only has "Adobe" for file reading like most users ..... it won't open the file up and you get a error message, like I just got.

So everyone would have to have "PDF creator" .... whom Adobe hates.

Best,
Fuzzy
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Glen,

I am using Adobe Reader 8 and it opens just fine. Otherwise I would have noticed that.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1857 on: April 06, 2012, 10:06:37 PM »
PW:

I agree that some extra AC will go through the FG path too.  The bottom line is that either you look at the true battery current or you don't.  The operating assumption is that Rosemary didn't have the slightest clue that during the testing at the university that this could have been happening.  When she is presented with a new concept that she perceives will possibly detract from her claim she will resist it vociferously.  It has taken a few months for her to even concede that current could be passing through the function generator and bypassing the current sensing resistor.  Even now she is uncomfortable with the idea and she is still outright rejecting the annotated schematic diagram that I have posted a few times.

Just to speculate on the goings on at the university lab in South Africa, I have to surmise that there were some half-hearted participants that assisted her.  So I doubt that anybody from the university that was truly competent in electronics was deeply involved in her project.  They would have spotted the problems right away and when they saw the "secret hidden" true schematic they would have told her that the MOSFETs were wired in a nonsensical way.  In the same way, sometimes Rosie trumpets her first allegedly "COP 17" circuit as being "endorsed" by real-world engineers from major industrial companies including ABB.  My interpretation of that is that an engineer from ABB passed by one day and took a cursory look at her circuit and nodded and smiled and shook her hand.  Rosie is spinning that as an "official endorsement."  Again, I am just speculating.

TK:

I watched your clip.  Just one correction about what transpired in the clip.  When you do the full positive offset of the waveform you say "all of the MOSFETs are on now."  What really transpired is that only one (?) MOSFET was on, not all, but the low and the high components of the offset waveform were both high enough in potential such that the single MOSFET stayed on all the time.  I don't think you were making an outright mistake, it's more associated with how people can be prone to making mistakes when they are recording themselves and trying to rattle off a bunch of technical details at the same time.  It's not easy to make a clip.

I have felt the same phenomenon myself many times.  It's kind of a "walk, film, and chew gum at the same time" thang....

MileHigh

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« Reply #1858 on: April 06, 2012, 10:16:22 PM »
And do it all in the wee hours no less....

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1859 on: April 06, 2012, 10:44:56 PM »
Stefan's forum is corrupting the uploaded files, that's why my pdf won't open.  :o

And that's most likely why your image won't upload either MH.
 

 

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