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Author Topic: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.  (Read 754633 times)

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #180 on: January 19, 2012, 02:30:54 AM »
Not quite tak22,

Rosie asks a whole lot of questions that are IGNORED.  Poynty then asks an elementary question OUT OF CONTEXT and DEMANDS AN ANSWER.  For some reason he need not answer my questions.  For some reason I MUST answer his?  And I must answer it in a form that I find utterly objectionable because there is NO STRAIGHT ANSWER.  What N CHANNEL MOSFET is he referring to?  With what properties?  And used to what purpose?  And where is the applied signal?  And how is this relevant to the questions under discussion?  And on and on.  I think if you're about to draw conclusions from this - then NOTE.  I HAVE answered his question.  He has NOT answered mine.

Regards,
Rosemary


I'm not one of the three readers, but I read it like this:
Rosie gets asked a question and asks for a definition, gets a definition, and then after oodles of words plus a few
accusations and sidesteps thrown in for good measure, tosses it back unanswered with 'conditions' if it's to be pursued.
Normally questions aren't answered this way.
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #181 on: January 19, 2012, 02:32:08 AM »
So from all those ooodles of words (thanks tak), are we all to conclude that your answer to the question was "POSITIVE"?

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #182 on: January 19, 2012, 02:37:27 AM »
So from all those ooodles of words (thanks tak), are we all to conclude that your answer to the question was "POSITIVE"?

Dear Poynty,

With regard to this post of yours.  Certainly NOT.  Here is my answer. 

Kindest regards
Rosie

My dear Poynty Point.

May I say, at the outset, and with the utmost respect, that I find your manners to be somewhat 'loutish' - I think is the best description.  You seem to think that you can dispense with any need to explain away that assemblage of incomprehensible 'argument' that I've summarised - by simply DEMANDING a REPLY to an elementary question.  And this - without any apparent requirement on your part to either address me or the arguments that you're so anxiously avoiding.  IF only ALL our problems could go away that easily.  If ONLY life could be that simple.  Indeed.  Because then we would all be able to forget that you ever put pen to that cascading slew of abused science, which is offered, as a sample of an utterly deluded mind.  OR.  Perhaps?  Were you depending on the fact that our own minds are that deluded that we'd readily engage in all that CONFUSION?  Were you trying MISDIRECT us?  Or have you, rather ponderously, assumed that you could USURP authority away from our GREATS and then simply rewrite science?

I think we'd all of us like to know.  IF, on the other hand you are trying, within the ambit of your rather poor aptitudes for either science or for any skills with some elementary social graces, you are simply trying to take the argument to another level - then that's a very good thing.  I would LOVE to engage in a discussion with you on the amount of negative voltage required to open or close a rather standard IRFPG50 MOSFET.  But ONLY in the context of our paper and my thesis.  And then too.  We'd need you to EXPLAIN the relevance of your question to this.  And with due respect, I would STRONGLY recommend that you apply some basic courtesies to this discussion.  Else everyone reading here will simply assume that you're a TROLL.  God forbid.

AND HERE


Do you want me to say, for instance, that the differential voltage between the Gate and the Source would be positive with respect to the source pin.  And that the IRFPG50 has a maximum VGS limit of about 20 volts.  And that this limit is determined by the thickness of the gate oxide and it's dialetric properties that can then lower the threshold to about 2-4 volts?  WHAT DOES THAT DO TO ADVANCE ANYTHING AT ALL?  It is the PAPER that details our claim that we need to deal with POYNTY.  Or, alternatively, we can continue to discuss your own rather circuitous logic in that document that you repeatedly aver to.

EDITED.  Added the second answer. 
« Last Edit: January 19, 2012, 04:01:17 AM by Rosemary Ainslie »

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #182 on: January 19, 2012, 02:37:27 AM »
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #183 on: January 19, 2012, 02:42:05 AM »
So from all those ooodles of words (thanks tak), are we all to conclude that your answer to the question is "NEGATIVE"?

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #184 on: January 19, 2012, 02:44:59 AM »
So from all those ooodles of words (thanks tak), are we all to conclude that your answer to the question is "NEGATIVE"?

STILL WRONG Poynty.

Wake up.  My answer will ONLY be forthcoming when you FULLY EXPLAIN the context of your QUESTION.

Kindest as ever,
R

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #185 on: January 19, 2012, 03:01:07 AM »
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POSITIVE, or NEGATIVE?[/size]


Funny, but at this poynt, our dear Rosie has much in common with a proton. They would both seemingly go out of their way to avoid the correct answer. 


BTW, if anyone here actually wants the correct answer, feel free to let me know. As a bonus, I'll even toss in some additional information, like, how a MOSFET gate could potentially fool someone into thinking they're getting free energy.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #186 on: January 19, 2012, 03:06:00 AM »

Funny, but at this poynt, our dear Rosie has much in common with an electron. They would both seemingly go out of their way to avoid the correct answer. 


BTW, if anyone here actually wants the correct answer, feel free to let me know. As a bonus, I'll even toss in some additional information, like, how a MOSFET gate could potentially fool someone into thinking they're getting free energy.

My dear Derrick,

I think we'd ALL like to hear more from you.  Long overdue - if INDEED you have the answer.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

By the way - I see you amended that analogy of me from an electron to a proton.  lol  Much appreciated. I prefer to think of myself as being positively charged.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #187 on: January 19, 2012, 03:48:09 AM »
SO.  Guys, here's the thing.

Poynty denies our right to claim his over unity prize by variously

.  Refuting the claim based on grossly flawed scientific protocols and logic
.  By refusing to engage in a discussion of the claims
.  Steering the focus away from the reasons for his dismissal by simply asking unrelated and inappropriate questions
.  That cannot be answered outside of a full qualification
.  And then sulking because I will not answer them until he explains his POYNT.  IF ANY

So  I put it to you that his mission is NOT to earnestly embark on the evaluation of a claim - as he DARE NOT.  Therefore one can conclude that his prize is simply a ruse to lure the unsuspecting to make their claims.  Then he bamboozles the Almighty himself in a TOTAL rewrite of the standard model - as required - to REFUTE those claims on any chosen pretext.  And his arguments related to that REFUTATION are infinitely variable - as he does not need to adhere to the rules of standard measurement protocols - NOR to that standard model.

Who would have thought?  And all this time - we all assumed that he was promoting and not FRUSTRATING the advancement of science. :o

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #188 on: January 19, 2012, 04:55:28 AM »
Derricka,

There's only one here that doesn't appear to know the answer, but it's preferable we let that one person post their response rather than take the opportunity away from them.

Regards,
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #188 on: January 19, 2012, 04:55:28 AM »
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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #189 on: January 19, 2012, 07:08:47 AM »
And guys, may I add that I answered his rather ambiguous question as best as it is humanly possibly - adding the required qualifications - lest the answer be considered ambivalent.


Do you want me to say, for instance, that the differential voltage between the Gate and the Source would be positive with respect to the source pin.  And that the IRFPG50 has a maximum VGS limit of about 20 volts.  And that this limit is determined by the thickness of the gate oxide and it's dialetric properties that can then lower the threshold to about 2-4 volts?  WHAT DOES THAT DO TO ADVANCE ANYTHING AT ALL?  It is the PAPER that details our claim that we need to deal with POYNTY.  Or, alternatively, we can continue to discuss your own rather circuitous logic in that document that you repeatedly aver to.

For reasons that only Poynty understands - he is DETERMINED to believe that his question has NOT BEEN ANSWERED.  But that's very much in keeping with his style.  Poynty follows the rich tradition enjoyed by most of the members of his forum.  They have - to a man -  usurped all rights to comment on over unity - or it's lack.  And they manage this by applying the rather eccentric principles that Poynty outlined in his 16 POYNT PROPOSAL where he attempted to argue against our evidence.  As a study in bad science - it's IMPECCABLE.  And what intrigues me ALWAYS is that they all seriously propose that I am the one who's DELUED - UNTRAINED - KNOW NOT WHEREOF I SPEAK - PROMOTE NON-STANDARD PHYSICS - and on and on.  I think the psychological term is 'projection'.  In any event.  Poynty has never allowed reality, mere facts,  raw data - intrude on his consciousness. 

But perhaps we should indulge him this 'license to confusion'.  Perhaps it's only fair.  After all - when can any of us accuse Poynty of being reasonable, logical, polite, impartial or even professional?  And God forbid that we expect him to limit his argument to conventional knowledge.  His true genius is in that vaunted knowledge which he presents with a certain flourish.  It's as tangled a overcooked spaghetti.  And it's sense just as unpalatable.  He seems to magic a new reality and expect us to swallow it.

In any event.  My quarrel remains.  He has DENIED us our claim for his over unity prize.  I therefore call on him to JUSTIFY this denial.  Else, Poynty Point - you NEED TO PAY UP. 

Rosemary

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #190 on: January 19, 2012, 07:35:54 AM »
And may I add.

MEANWHILE the record stands.  We have, most assuredly, together with many others on these forums - defeated those unity barriers. There are those who have made it their mission to deny this.  And in their efforts to DENY - they apply the most extraordinary standards of adjudication - that would NEVER stand up to the close scrutiny that's applied by any serious scientist.

SO.  REST ASSURED.  The unity barrier is no longer relevant.  It is of no force and effect.  It is to science what the dinosaurs are to history.  Sadly irrelevant - but an intriguing evolutionary event - ESPECIALLY AS IT'S REFLECTED IN BIRD BRAINS.  LOL

Kindest as ever,
Rosemary

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That 'bird brain' thing.   :D :o 8)
And I had to include 'MEANWHILE' else Poynty will think we don't intend to claim his prize.
 

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #191 on: January 19, 2012, 12:22:02 PM »

Aren't MOSFET are controlled by voltage only: how we could get FE !?
Source: is the entry of current.
Drain: the exit.
Gate: the control only by voltage, generally a  5V for a N MOSFET (The more common).


MOSFET doesn't use current in the Gate to control ON or OFF state, the linear control is very low (to 0 at 5Volts) they are more efficient in ON-OFF mode (that's why they are the king for PWM application)...
1) So I have something wrong here !?
2) How you can get OU from a MOSFET !?

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #192 on: January 19, 2012, 01:40:27 PM »
Aren't MOSFET are controlled by voltage only: how we could get FE !?
Source: is the entry of current.
Drain: the exit.
Gate: the control only by voltage, generally a  5V for a N MOSFET (The more common).


MOSFET doesn't use current in the Gate to control ON or OFF state, the linear control is very low (to 0 at 5Volts) they are more efficient in ON-OFF mode (that's why they are the king for PWM application)...
1) So I have something wrong here !?
2) How you can get OU from a MOSFET !?

Hello Schubert

Who are you asking?  Golly. I hope I've NEVER claimed to get OU from a MOSFET.   

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #193 on: January 19, 2012, 02:05:09 PM »
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Who are you asking?  Golly. I hope I've NEVER claimed to get OU from a MOSFET.   


At everyone^^...

In fact, I would to said that: A Gate have never current flowing...
Flowing direction is: S --> D (by controlling the gate) and D --> S (by a freewheeling diode inside them) maybe to avoid inductive spike burning the Mosfet...


Schubert.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #194 on: January 19, 2012, 02:37:40 PM »
I'm going to ask the same question again but this time with a visual aid, so no one spoil it please. We want Rosemary to have first crack at it. Coming up soon, I need to draw it up.

.99

 

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