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poynt99

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #405 on: January 28, 2012, 02:27:40 PM »
No.  Not one that I can rustle up.  I'd hate to be accused of speculating.

Strange, you shouldn't have to speculate if you know how the circuit works. Allow me to give you a clue, even though according to you I have none.

If one could indeed separately measure the current flow in both directions, reference the positive terminal of the battery, one would see, according to your notion that more energy is RETURNED to the battery than is SUPPLIED by it, a higher net average current flowing into the battery than what is flowing out.

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« Reply #406 on: January 28, 2012, 02:32:37 PM »
Strange, you shouldn't have to speculate if you know how the circuit works. Allow me to give you a clue, even though according to you I have none.

If one could indeed separately measure the current flow in both directions, reference the positive terminal of the battery, one would see, according to your notion that more energy is RETURNED to the battery than is SUPPLIED by it, a higher net average current flowing into the battery than what is flowing out.

Poynty.  I wonder if we could impose on you to draw...  8) that circuit?  That way we're referring to the...  8) same thing.

Rosie pose

EDITED.
Corrected the punctuation in line with my preferred style of writing.  Much needed.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #407 on: January 28, 2012, 02:54:23 PM »
Poynty.  I wonder if we could impose on you to draw that circuit?  That way we're referring to the same thing.

Use the same bulb and diode for each leg, and one has a real simple method to see which path has the higher current, or IF there is current in each path at all. One might have to experiment with a few different 12V bulbs.

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« Reply #408 on: January 28, 2012, 03:07:55 PM »
Use the same bulb and diode for each leg, and one has a real simple method to see which path has the higher current, or IF there is current in each path at all. One might have to experiment with a few different 12V bulbs.

We've done that test.  Cast your mind back to the post by woopy.  It was certainly made within the last two days - so it's not that far back.  You may recall?  Or not?  There may yet come a day in our lives that you actually show proof of ever reading anything at all that I write.  NOW.  Replace those bulbs with LED's. Then.  THE ONE RAIL WILL STAY LIT - the OTHER RAIL WILL STAY DARK.  The oscillation persists.  With fine tuning the measure of wattage is that 'D-RATTED' negative number.  No need to speculate.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

LOVE the new name, by the way (BTW).  Brings to mind the 'rat pack' and a really interesting period in our history.  Also runs parallel to those early insights related to the need for 'missing energy' - now widely referred to as 'dark energy' and still in line with Einstein's preferred term 'Aether'.  Perhaps you could advise MileHigh about this.  He's hopelessly - or maybe 'hopefully' confused about the physics required in support of the evidence of all that dark matter.  lol.  Or as he puts it lolololol   

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« Reply #409 on: January 28, 2012, 03:12:01 PM »
We've done that test.  Cast your mind back to the post by woopy.  It was certainly made within the last two days - so it's not that far back.  You may recall?  Or not?  There may yet come a day in our lives that you actually show proof of ever reading anything at all that I write.  NOW.  Replace those bulbs with LED's. Then.  THE ONE RAIL WILL STAY LIT - the OTHER RAIL WILL STAY DARK.  The oscillation persists. With fine tuning the measure of wattage is that 'D-RATTED' negative number.  No need to speculate.

I've not seen YOUR test results with this. On your circuit this test would not be possible with LED's in place of the bulbs, as they would burn out in an instant, or at least one would anyway.

Also, which 'rail' stays lit?

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« Reply #410 on: January 28, 2012, 03:16:02 PM »
I've not seen YOUR test results with this. On your circuit this test would not be possible with LED's in place of the bulbs, as they would burn out in an instant, or at least one would anyway.

And there it is again.  The open accusation that I'm a LIAR.  I AM NOT LYING.  I DID NOT SAY THAT WE TESTED THIS ON OUR CIRCUIT.  We tested this principle on a separate circuit.  You were FULLY INFORMED.  Evidence is in that hate blog to which I referred previously.  It was posted around the 10th November or thereby 2010.  It is ONLY INTRIGUING by virtue of the fact that the current appears to be running in both directions through the one rail.  WHICH is evidence that there is a path in both directions.   Which is consistent with the thesis.  Which is detailed in the 2nd part of that 2-part paper.

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Edited.  I added more to this rather short post.  Sorry.  You may need to refresh the page.
Rosie

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« Reply #411 on: January 28, 2012, 03:18:55 PM »
And there it is again.  The open accusation that I'm a LIAR.  I AM NOT LYING.  I DID NOT SAY THAT WE TESTED THIS ON OUR CIRCUIT.  We tested this principle on a separate circuit.  You were FULLY INFORMED.  Evidence is in that hate blog to which I referred previously.  It was posted around the 10th November or thereby 2010.  It is ONLY INTRIGUING by virtue of the fact that the current appears to be running in both directions through the one rail.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Since you've NOT tested this on your RAT circuit, you can not presently know what the result will be. Woopy did not perform this test btw.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #412 on: January 28, 2012, 03:24:03 PM »
Right, and since you've NOT tested this on your RAT circuit, you can not presently know what the result will be. Woopy did not perform this test btw.

So?  We did NOT perform this on our RAT circuit.  We could not.  As you pointed out those lights would BLOW.  And woopy actually showed us his own LED that stayed bright - curiously.  But admittedly he used a transformer as opposed to the inductance from an element resistor.  I'm SURE that this will entirely OBVIATE the relevance of his tests as far as you're concerned.  Fortunately you're not the adjudicator.  Else we'd be in the rather fragile position of allowing YOU to determine anything at all.  As I mentioned in that paper.  We need experts.

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« Reply #413 on: January 28, 2012, 03:28:24 PM »
So?  We did NOT perform this on our RAT circuit.  We could not.  As you pointed out those lights would BLOW.  And woopy actually showed us his own LED that stayed bright - curiously.  But admittedly he used a transformer as opposed to the inductance from an element resistor.  I'm SURE that this will entirely OBVIATE the relevance of his tests as far as you're concerned.  Fortunately you're not the adjudicator.  Else we'd be in the rather fragile position of allowing YOU to determine anything at all.  As I mentioned in that paper.  We need experts.

Regards,
Rosie
Soooooo, don't imply that you DID perform the test on your circuit, when in fact you didn't. Yeah, you DID imply it...read your reply again:

We've done that test. NOW.  Replace those bulbs with LED's. Then.  THE ONE RAIL WILL STAY LIT - the OTHER RAIL WILL STAY DARK.  The oscillation persists.  With fine tuning the measure of wattage is that 'D-RATTED' negative number.  No need to speculate.

And once again Woopy's LED test is not even remotely related to the test outlined in the schematic I just posted.

And again, until you DO perform this test (with bulbs, not LEDs) on your RAT circuit, you can not and will not know the results.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #414 on: January 28, 2012, 03:34:49 PM »
We've done that test.  Cast your mind back to the post by woopy.  It was certainly made within the last two days - so it's not that far back.  You may recall?  Or not?  There may yet come a day in our lives that you actually show proof of ever reading anything at all that I write.  NOW.  Replace those bulbs with LED's. Then.  THE ONE RAIL WILL STAY LIT - the OTHER RAIL WILL STAY DARK.  The oscillation persists.  With fine tuning the measure of wattage is that 'D-RATTED' negative number.  No need to speculate.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

LOVE the new name, by the way (BTW).  Brings to mind the 'rat pack' and a really interesting period in our history.  Also runs parallel to those early insights related to the need for 'missing energy' - now widely referred to as 'dark energy' and still in line with Einstein's preferred term 'Aether'.  Perhaps you could advise MileHigh about this.  He's hopelessly - or maybe 'hopefully' confused about the physics required in support of the evidence of all that dark matter.  lol.  Or as he puts it lolololol

WHERE in this post did I say that we applied that test to our circuit?  I SIMPLY SAID THAT WE'VE DONE THAT TEST. And we most certainly have.  It is all the more significant PRECISELY because it was a replication of the oscillation on an entirely different circuit.  Don't get picky Poynty Point.  It serves nothing.  WE HAVE TESTED THE PRINCIPLE.  The evidence suggests that the current flow is enabled through both directions of the circuit 'drain rail' or battery positive - and that is certainly in line with the thesis that relates to the charged property in current flow.  Else in one or other direction - there should be NO current flow.

Again,
As ever, Rosie Posie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #415 on: January 28, 2012, 03:41:42 PM »

By the way - woopy.  It's interesting that the LED stays LIT despite that voltage reversal.  It implies that there's a continual steady current.  Which is intriguing.  We found this ourselves when we provided two alternate banks to check if the two lines of LED's would alternate on and off.  We found that only one line stayed lit, and it was steady.  No flickering even.  It was intriguing.

And here's the postscript that was addressed to Laurent.

edited.  added that emphasis - and then made it more comprehensive

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #416 on: January 28, 2012, 03:43:18 PM »
WHERE in this post did I say that we applied that test to our circuit?  I SIMPLY SAID THAT WE'VE DONE THAT TEST. And we most certainly have.  It is all the more significant PRECISELY because it was a replication of the oscillation on an entirely different circuit.  Don't get picky Poynty Point.  It serves nothing.  WE HAVE TESTED THE PRINCIPLE.  The evidence suggests that the current flow is enabled through both directions of the circuit 'drain rail' or battery positive - and that is certainly in line with the thesis that relates to the charged property in current flow.  Else in one or other direction - there should be NO current flow.

You're just spewing BS Rosemary. You don't get it do you?

IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THIS TEST ON YOUR RAT CIRCUIT, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE RESULT...PERIOD!

Why is that so difficult for you to understand? You can not extrapolate results from some different circuit, especially when you are making such bold claims as you are. YOU NEED TO TEST THE CIRCUIT IN QUESTION.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #417 on: January 28, 2012, 03:54:15 PM »
You're just spewing BS Rosemary. You don't get it do you?

IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THIS TEST ON YOUR RAT CIRCUIT, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE RESULT...PERIOD!

Why is that so difficult for you to understand? You can not extrapolate results from some different circuit, especially when you are making such bold claims as you are. YOU NEED TO TEST THE CIRCUIT IN QUESTION.

POYNT.  We are exploring the significance of an OSCILLATION - that appears to persist - despite the fact that the battery terminals are disconnected.  We can possibly DEBATE whether or not the battery is disconnected on our circuit - because it has that Q-array.  HOWEVER.  There is no DEBATE related to a circuit that ONLY has a negative signal applied, CONTINUOUSLY, to the GATE OF THE ONLY MOSFET IN THE CIRCUIT.  THEN WE KNOW that the battery is disconnected.  Therefore did we test this on that alternate circuit.  And therefore, can we conclude that IF the oscillation persists in the face of a disconnected battery - then INDEED the question is where does that energy come from?  Which is precisely why we tested this PRINCIPLE and precisely why we needed to do this on an alternate circuit.  This was largely motivated by Harti's questions related to this. 

NOW.  What that alternate circuit PROVED is that the voltage across the battery - with the oscilloscope probes CONNECTED DIRECTLY TO THE BATTERY TERMINAL - shows that the oscillation is going 'full tilt' EVEN when that battery is disconnected.  Which it is.  It is disconnected for the duration.  We're only using one transistor.  And we're only applying a negative signal to that gate.

Regards,
Rosie

edited.  Major error there where I referenced the positive rail.  Sorry.

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« Reply #419 on: January 28, 2012, 08:00:07 PM »
I deleted this ENTIRE letter to Poynty.  It was way too long and we all know that Poynty never reads the first or last sentence of my posts.  And little - if anything - between them.

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