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Author Topic: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.  (Read 720388 times)

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2010 on: April 08, 2012, 10:56:43 PM »
Rosemary,

I read your comments and I apologize but I really don't have time to respond at length right now.  I enjoy a good technical discussion but will do what I must to stay out of the "fray".  When I read this thread from the beginning, as soon as I read any "attitude" (from anyone), I scroll on until the conversation returns to a more technical nature, in doing so, it makes this rather lengthy thread a very short read!   

In any event, if you consider my discussions as "off topic", I will certainly honor that opinion and move on.  I mean no disrespect to anyone. 

Have to go for now,

PW   
Thank you picawatt.  I propose you take this discussion to TK's thread.  That's way more appropriate.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2011 on: April 08, 2012, 11:17:10 PM »
Rosemary,

What are valid discussions for this thread?  Again, I mean you no disrespect, but the title appears to refer to the flat battery test you opened with, but it was only briefly discussed.  As most of the discussion appeared to be with respect to your COP=infinity claim, the circuit that demonstrates that, and possible ways to verify the claim, I thought an analysis and discussion of the presented data was "on topic". 

I want to "play by the rules", but I guess I would need to know what the rules are.  It is indeed your thread so please let me know. 

PW

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2012 on: April 08, 2012, 11:20:24 PM »

And as to my contact info: I am not trying to publish a scientific paper reporting an experiment that claims a miracle in peer reviewed journals. YOU ARE. The referees of journal articles are ALWAYS anonymous.

And as to my raw data: every bit of it is publicly available, posted on the internet, to those with the wits to look at it. Yours? Not.

TK - you need to keep up with the times.  There is absolutely NO requirement for referees to be anonymous.  Only that they're qualified.  And that their impartial.  And that they are known to conduct themselves professionally.  You are GROSSLY under qualified - in all aspects. 

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2013 on: April 08, 2012, 11:24:24 PM »
It appears that implementing the 555 timer circuit in lieu of the FG isn't as big an obstacle as Rosemary has been making it out to be.

But then...we already  know what kind of trouble she gets into with 555 timer circuits. FTC has reproduced the 555 circuit from the Quantum COP>17 claim... I invite all interested parties to put it together and see what duty cycle it makes at the mosfet's load.

Nobody has to take my word for anything. Just build and test, build and test, see for yourselves if I am wrong.


Now... what are the preferred timings for the Big Show? Right now my 555 Tar Baby is pulsing at about 550 Hz with a duty cycle of around 70 percent "oscs on", and the oscs themselves are at about 3.8 MHz using the 830as.
So if I know the desired pulse rate and duty cycle I can modify the timing elements of the 555 to produce those values, I think. If especially slow rates are needed I will probably gang two 555s or use a 556 in a different mode.

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« Reply #2014 on: April 08, 2012, 11:32:35 PM »
TK - you need to keep up with the times.  There is absolutely NO requirement for referees to be anonymous.  Only that they're qualified.  And that their impartial.  And that they are known to conduct themselves professionally.  You are GROSSLY under qualified - in all aspects. 

Rosie Poser

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Anonymous peer review Anonymous peer review, also called blind review, is a system of prepublication peer review of scientific articles or papers for journals or academic conferences by reviewers who are known to the journal editor or conference organizer but whose names are not given to the article's author. The reviewers do not know the author's identity, as any identifying information is stripped from the document before review. The system is intended to reduce or eliminate bias, although this has been challenged – for example Eugene Koonin, a senior investigator at the National Center for Biotechnology Information, asserts that the system has "well-known ills"[23] and advocates "open peer review". Others support blind reviewing because no research has suggested that the methodology maybe harmful and the cost of facilitating such reviews is minimal.[24] Some experts proposed blind review procedures for reviewing controversial research topics.[25]
 [edit] Open peer review Main article: Open peer review Open peer review describes a scientific literature concept and process, central to which is the various transparency and disclosure of the identities of those reviewing scientific publications. The concept thus represents a departure from, and an alternative to, the incumbent anonymous peer review process, in which non-disclosure of these identities toward the public – and toward the authors of the work under review – is default practice.  The open peer review concept appears to constitute a response to modern criticisms of the incumbent system; therefore, its emergence may be partially attributed to these phenomena.


Idiot. When are you going to test your batteries? I have eliminated your last attempt at delay and objection: the 555 timer circuit.

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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2015 on: April 09, 2012, 12:03:38 AM »
Picowatt - it seems that you want me to state the obvious. If you expect any co-operation from me related to anything at all then I would require that you prove some level of impartiality - AT LEAST.  Failing which I must assume that you are as thick as a thief with TK.  That you probably instruct him.  Else how do you explain that - 'never mind' 'carry on'.  And that  your agenda - like his - is to disprove our claim based on anything at all.  You have NOT acknowledged that answer to those voltages related to their peak to peak values with an AC coupling.  You simply complained about poor eyesight.  You have DEMANDED answers to your questions from me with the same flaunted lack of respect that our trolls employ.  And you are are now regressing to an overuse of acronyms that are ENTIRELY undefined which is the 'troll' 'fall back' when all else fails.  Therefore, I put it to you that there is real evidence that I may, as with TK and MileHigh - ignore your input as having an 'agenda' that is patently obvious.  Quite apart from which, there is nothing preventing you airing your opinions on TK's own thread.  Move there.  I am more than a little tired of TK's rather rushed and anxious desire to 'test everything' in the hopes that he can thereby obviate any further need for my own test demonstrations.  There is NOTHING that will justify any dependency on anything that TK presents as he's PROVED his partiality in every post that he posts.  And that ENTIRELY disqualifies him from comment.  What do you seriously propose you can do to allow any dependency on his data at all.  He's distortions on just one video alone are enough to satisfy any objective person that he will go to some considerable lengths to infer and imply whatever he chooses.  And it seems that none of you are prepared to acknowledge those rather transparent  ploys of his.

And the topic of this thread has moved with the wind.  But currently the object is to move towards a genuine replication that I understood you were about to do.  And to hold to our rights to demonstrate our claims publicly for the benefit of public interest that requires more efficient energy supplies.  The less obvious sub theme is to show up some rather abusive troll tactics for what they are.

Kindest regards
Rosemary

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2016 on: April 09, 2012, 12:07:14 AM »
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Idiot. When are you going to test your batteries? I have eliminated your last attempt at delay and objection: the 555 timer circuit.

You are the idiot TK.  You referenced BLIND peer review.  There is no obligation for the review process to be BLIND. 

And I am MOST ANXIOUS to do the 555 timer circuit test.  But I will not do it until I have a new thread which I can moderate as agreed by Harti.
What I'm waiting for is to have his further agreement to then allow our NERD circuit to be equally and publicly displayed.  And our own undertakings will present the data considerably more conclusively than your own efforts.  They'd need to be.

Rosie Pose


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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2017 on: April 09, 2012, 12:16:26 AM »
Oh Rosie Posie Punch-a-Nosey...

We are encouraging you to do a battery draw down test.  TK has made suggestions, I have made suggestions, I am pretty sure that Poynt has made suggestions in the past.

If you really wanted to you could 'rally' and put your batteries in a corner and set up the peg board on a table.

Distill all the the information that has been provided to you into a ten-point test plan and share it with us for our feedback.  Within short order I would hope that we could agree with your plan.

The only 'rocket science' is to start with fully-charged batteries that you know are good, then run your setup in negative offset oscillation mode for as long as you have calculated that you need to run it, and then do the dim bulb test.

Time to stop whining and get off your butt and do something real.

MileHigh

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2018 on: April 09, 2012, 12:27:15 AM »
Oh Rosie Posie Punch-a-Nosey...

We are encouraging you to do a battery draw down test.  TK has made suggestions, I have made suggestions, I am pretty sure that Poynt has made suggestions in the past.

If you really wanted to you could 'rally' and put your batteries in a corner and set up the peg board on a table.

Distill all the the information that has been provided to you into a ten-point test plan and share it with us for our feedback.  Within short order I would hope that we could agree with your plan.

The only 'rocket science' is to start with fully-charged batteries that you know are good, then run your setup in negative offset oscillation mode for as long as you have calculated that you need to run it, and then do the dim bulb test.

Time to stop whining and get off your butt and do something real.

MileHigh

My dear MileHigh

I have not spent the most of this year on this forum in order to simply show you and TK and anyone else anything at all.  My intention is to take the tests to a level that they can no longer be refuted.  And the only way to do that is in terms of the tests that I propose with the active engagement of acknowledged experts as the arbiters. 

I would indeed have to be the idiot that you all accuse me of - if I did anything less.  You may recall.  My previous attempt at being 'guided' by open source personalities resulted in Glen's theft of our paper - and his and Harvey's denial of any advantages.  Which has regressed the progress of this technology for a further 2 years.  Fortunately we were able to find even better values.  And we also have anomalies now that more than merit expert investigation.  Which meant that I had to work excessively hard to salvage this from what would have been certain extinction. So.  Don't expect me to be quite that foolhardy as to trust to you members again.  I've been many times bitten.  I've certainly learned better.

Rosie Pose

And picwatt - there's that in your writing style that brings Harvey Gramm very much to mind.  Which is probably why I'm rather inclined to distrust you.  With respect.
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2019 on: April 09, 2012, 12:42:33 AM »
Oh God... So the drama continues...

Forget the "experts" business and the "academics" business Rosie...

A reasonable test can be worked out and some of the people that you are speaking to right here right now are experts.  Has that crossed your mind?

You have been qualified and from inference your team has been qualified and clearly none of you are experts.

You can't call up two professors at a university and expect them to engage with you.  It's not workable and not realistic.  And, again, all of the expertise you need is right here.

This 'fight' in this thread is just 'juice' - something that you feed off of.  It's not about the test, it's about the challenge to come here and defend your proposition every day.  That's what drives you.

Just do a real test.  We all think that we know what the outcome will be, don't we?  Do the test please.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2020 on: April 09, 2012, 12:47:59 AM »
Oh God... So the drama continues...

Forget the "experts" business and the "academics" business Rosie...

A reasonable test can be worked out and some of the people that you are speaking to right here right now are experts.  Has that crossed your mind?

You have been qualified and from inference your team has been qualified and clearly none of you are experts.

You can't call up two professors at a university and expect them to engage with you.  It's not workable and not realistic.  And, again, all of the expertise you need is right here.

This 'fight' in this thread is just 'juice' - something that you feed off of.  It's not about the test, it's about the challenge to come here and defend your proposition every day.  That's what drives you.

Just to a real test.  We all think that we know what the outcome will be, don't we?  Do the test please.

MileHigh

I have every reason to believe that we most certainly CAN get experts to engage.  But it would need to be a more respectable thread address.  And I've already got more than 2 experts who are looking to the applied protocols.  So don't tell me what I can and can't do.  You have no idea how far I'll work to get this test proved.  And I will NOT EVER do so with any kind of reliance on you, TK, Picowatt, Glen , Powercat, Harvey  - or anyone else.  I wont go there.  It will cost me somewhat to get these tests done.  But I most certainly won't compromise the accreditation again.

Rosemary
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2021 on: April 09, 2012, 12:53:42 AM »
I can read between the lines in your previous posting and what I read is your grand plan will never get off the ground.

I challenge you right here and right now to list between 10 and 15 steps for doing a draw-down - dim bulb test.

C'mon, you must have some test strategy...  Take the first step in sketching out a test plan.  I dare you.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2022 on: April 09, 2012, 12:57:05 AM »
I can read between the lines in your previous posting and what I read is your grand plan will never get off the ground.

I challenge you right here and right now to list between 10 and 15 steps for doing a draw-down - dim bulb test.

C'mon, you must have some test strategy...  Take the first step in sketching out a test plan.  I dare you.

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MileHigh - why should I play my cards?  So that you can do an early 'debunk'?  Like TK's trying to manage?  And why should you care?  Surely you'd be delighted - in the unlikely event that we ever prove anything at all?  I would have thought? 

Rosie Pose

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« Reply #2023 on: April 09, 2012, 12:57:21 AM »
Oh that's rich.

"I'm not going to test anything until I can get acknowledged experts to agree with me. And no one who disagrees with me can be an expert since they clearly don't know what they are doing."

Therefore, Rosemary, you will not be performing any tests. Because like Professor Kahn, they take one look at your "papers" and understand what they are dealing with, and back away as rapidly as possible.

You think I'm humbugger, that picowatt is harvey, and harvey is me. You make the most ridiculous statements that are refuted by a couple of cliks and Wikipedia...over and over and over. You are corrected on irrefutable errors and yet you persist in them for WEEKS and WEEKs, post after post, until even you can no longer defend your position, like with your bogus calculations and your "schematics". Then you just move on, without even any shame or attempts to do better in the future. You express your profound ignorance of just about every topic you comment on, and yet you think your position is unassailable... while everybody is laughing at you, in your face and behind your back. You are pitiful... but I don't pity you. I have watched you do the same thing for years: you sucker people into interacting with you by pretending to be sweet and innocent, then when they begin to see your true colors you turn on them with your vile invective and your hypocritical rantings and threats. The Naked Scientists, Asthweth, Aaron, Harvey, Fuzzy, and more... all these people started out just like picowatt, asking reasonable questions and pointing out inconsistencies and asking you for details and wondering why their exact replications didn't ever work like YOU claim yours does... and yet you NEVER showed any definitive testing in all those years.

And you aren't going to be testing anything now, or any time in the foreseeable future, either, so why don't you stop pretending you are.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #2024 on: April 09, 2012, 01:01:31 AM »
I think the time is nigh for the Big Question: How is Tar Baby different, in any significant way, from Rosemary Ainslie's NERD device described in the papers? Just what factor keeps Tar Baby from being an actual replication of the NERD device?

 

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