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Author Topic: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.  (Read 743387 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1515 on: March 24, 2012, 05:09:40 PM »
Ahh.. now I think I understand why Rosemary has suddenly begun discussing my height and calling me a "little" person. She thinks that one of her minions has identified me.
Unfortunately, as anybody whose wits HAVEN'T ended can hear for themselves, that "little person" from Texas can be heard speaking on some of the famous Steorn videos, and his voice and speech patterns -- and indeed, height and moustaches -- may be compared with mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtqYcLR4skU

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1516 on: March 24, 2012, 05:37:21 PM »
Rosemary,

I spent considerable time tracing out the top and bottom connections of the proto-board shown in the video. The labeling and accompanying schematic are accurate per what was shown in the video demonstration.
Nothing wrong with your work Poynty.  As ever.  I'm pointing out to you that the demonstration was simply to show that negative wattage and the co-incidence in numbers between both machines.  That arrangement of the CSR's is absolutely NOT relevant to the data in our paper.  That arrangement was simply to accommodate more probes than we could comfortably manage on our apparatus - at that time - for that demonstration. 

Am I the only one experiencing this - but it seems that there's whole intervals of about an hour or so that I simply can't log into this thread?  I tried looking at the 'viewers' which usually shows if everyone's stuck on the home page - and I couldn't even get in there.  And it's happening more and more frequently.  I think Harti needs to look to getting a bigger service provider?  Is that the term?  The messages I get are that the site is 'TOO BUSY'  'TRY LATER'.  Most irritating.

Kindest as ever,
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1517 on: March 24, 2012, 05:52:29 PM »
And Tinsel Koala - disabuse yourself of any assumption that I must ANSWER you about anything at all.  You're grasp of the issues at hand are absurdly irrelevant and inappropriate to science.  And your manner of address is that vulgar and that abusive that it is inappropriate to forum guidelines let alone to the any reasonably civilized communication.  And like all psychopathic bullies - you rely on this rather overblown method of 'attack' for your ordinance.  Your bullets are blunt TK.  We are not here at Sunday School - relying on your opinions.  There is only one absurd player here that I can see.  And it's you.  What are you thinking?  That I must answer your questions?  Dear God. 

I am under NO OBLIGATION to engage in any kind of conversation with you - other than of my own choosing.  I do not work for you.  I owe you NOTHING but my contempt.  And I have that in bountiful supply.  Would that you were bigger.  Sadly.  You suffer from the 'small man syndrome'.  And we all know where that takes one.  Just look at Hitler - for God's sake. Now.  Why don't you rally your forces?  Why not get MileHigh or Glen to post another 8/10's of another page.  Or just do that yourself.  Lest our readers be reminded how utterly ridiculous are your alleged 'REPLICATIONS' and your absurd 'ANALYSES'.  All those EGREGIOUS VIOLATIONS.  LOL.  And here where I write LOL I actually mean 'Dear God'.

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1518 on: March 24, 2012, 06:12:14 PM »
You may not have to answer ME, but you will have to answer to Someone eventually, that's certain.
And YOU may not have to answer my questions, but someone will, eventually, because they need to be answered if your FRAUDULENT ATTEMPT TO GAIN A MONETARY PRIZE is to have any success. The people here may be a credulous lot, but nobody is going to give you any money unless you can prove your claims, and I know you cannot.

Refute me with FACTS and REFERENCES, not with insults and stupidities and lies.

From a year ago.... humbugger did the definitive work and analysis of your idiotic circuit and claims.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=46f5f20e5dbe9f31e7948b27ff3dc49e&topic=13.msg12232#msg12232

Are you going to try to tell us that I am humbugger, or that he somehow isn't qualified EITHER since he disagrees with you?

And THE DUTY CYCLE IDIOCY COMES UP AGAIN !!!
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=46f5f20e5dbe9f31e7948b27ff3dc49e&topic=13.msg12261#msg12261
When a mosfet wired this way is OFF, the DRAIN VOLTAGE IS HIGH and when it's ON, the DRAIN VOLTAGE IS LOW. This confusion of YOURS and many of your sycophants goes all the way back to the Quantum article claiming COP>17 in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CIRCUIT.

AND THIS IS WHY IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO KNOW JUST WHAT THE GREEN TRACE IS, which you claim is NOT the common drain trace...

Also, I have repeatedly offered my TinselKoil for testing ACCORDING TO YOUR SAME PROTOCOLS for comparison purposes. Your measly switched mosfets--if they are indeed switching at all instead of just staying on all the time -- pale in comparison to the power levels I am able to achieve on SIMILAR INPUT POWER... that is, apparently none--- as your idiotic kludge. And I'm willing to prove that assertion JUST AS SOON AS YOU PROVE YOURS.

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1519 on: March 24, 2012, 06:53:35 PM »
Also, I have repeatedly offered my TinselKoil for testing ACCORDING TO YOUR SAME PROTOCOLS for comparison purposes. Your measly switched mosfets--if they are indeed switching at all instead of just staying on all the time -- pale in comparison to the power levels I am able to achieve on SIMILAR INPUT POWER... that is, apparently none--- as your idiotic kludge. And I'm willing to prove that assertion JUST AS SOON AS YOU PROVE YOURS.

LOL.  If I didn't know better I'd think you're in competition with me.  Which is hugely amusing.  The only competition that any of us have is with Cold Fusion and the inevitable march of nitinol technologies.  Whatever is being done on this little circuit of ours rather pales in comparison.  I'm only plugging this thread to have a reasonable chance to ASSURE our readers and members that Over Unity is most CERTAINLY breachable. That's got to help.  I'd have thought?  And then.  There's the kicker.  We think we know WHY it's possible to breach this elusive barrier.  All you can manage in that rather tiny little mind of yours TK is the deluded assumption that anything that you do or I do can possibly matter in the light of REAL PROGRESS happening all over the place.  You're way out of step here.

But nonetheless.  Press on with your absurdities.  As ever - let me assure you - I am under no obligation to comment on your work.  Certainly NOT while it is so utterly inappropriately IMPOSED on this thread when it's not even RELEVANT to the issue.  What a ridiculous little man you are.

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
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Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1520 on: March 24, 2012, 07:06:59 PM »
And let me add this TK

Poynty knows the real issue - so even does MileHigh.  I think just about everyone does bar you.  And guess what?  Nor will you ever grasp the issue.  You don't have the required acumen.  At least when they argue it's APPROPRIATE.  All you can do is mutter about MOSFETS and SIGNAL GENERATORS.  And then you propose to do a test?  Without even understanding the point of that test?  What a class act.  You and Glen make an exceptionally good team.  No wonder you both see fit to dominate plus/minus 60 pages of non-stop self-absorbed, irrelevant nonsense.  God spare me such weak opponents.  I keep hoping for a relevant dialogue.  You're incapable of it.

Again,
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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1521 on: March 24, 2012, 07:30:48 PM »
there you go TK

You've got another recruit.  Definitely a kindred spirit.  He shares your love of inappropriate invective and a similar level of spite.  Highly appropriate for your team.

Rosie Pose

If your 'NERD technology' was for real you would not have to go through all this crap so put a sock in it.

If your  'NERD technology' was for real we would have figured that out by now so put a sock in it.


 If your  'NERD technology' was for real you would not have to defend it to these lengths so put a sock in it you attention w h o r e!
It's the worms crawling out of the woodwork.
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1522 on: March 24, 2012, 07:38:48 PM »
And here you go Rosemary.

I took my IRF830a mosfets off of my nice circuit board, closed my eyes, and cut some random lengths of wire to hook them back up with. So now I'm simulating the wire lengths in your demonstration. This was inspired by my rereading of the posts from a year ago covering this EXACT SAME ISSUE, on some other forum that I've linked to somewhere above. And guess what.... take a look. As usual, my top trace is the function generator's input to the mosfets. The bottom trace, which incidentally is GREEN and ac coupled... is the mosfet common drain. Here I'm showing it at 10 volts per division AC coupled in the first shot, then 100 volts per division AC coupled in the second shot ... does it look familiar to you at all? Where have we seen this kind of trace set before, I wonder?

(It's much faster to post results using the still camera.. .but I've also taken a video and it should be available in an hour or so after processing and uploading to YT.)

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1523 on: March 24, 2012, 07:57:46 PM »
My dear Powercat.  This is simply not true.  But if it helps you to think this then feel free.  I'm not sure that I care either way.

Rosie Pose


Your cavalier attitude towards the truth is so unscientific it makes you uncredible, and until you retract your ridiculous claims I will continue to warn people not to expect any free energy from your circuit.

You are the only one saying this statement is not true.

How many years would you call a fair chance ? Stefan has given you three threads and still nobody can produce excess  energy from any of your circuits.
Interesting how you're attacking the majority of people who post here and calling them trolls, when you are the one wasting everybody's time with your BS claims.
In all the years that you have been making these claims not one person has ever successfully matched your claims.


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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1524 on: March 24, 2012, 08:20:34 PM »
Rosemary:

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The only competition that any of us have is with Cold Fusion and the inevitable march of nitinol technologies.

I had a chuckle with that one.  Your qualifying skills are almost nonexistent.  Gobbling up 'free energy' propositions like jellybeans.

For the Nitinol, could you gauge that clip for how old it is?  It looks like it dates from 1980 or 1981.  So that has been one hell of a long march, Chairman Mao would be proud.  Have you ever in your life heard of a Nitinol engine?  Plus if you watched the clip they clearly indicate it's not free energy, just a way to get mechanical energy from heat.

What you would realize if you were astute is that the technology did not succeed.  That's the way it works in the real world, some things simply don't pan out.

You often refer to cold fusion as a free energy technology.  But by definition it's not a free energy technology.  Why do you say that?  Meanwhile the chances of Rossi and Defkalion being real are a faint hope at this point in time.  They have never shown credible data from independent third-party testers even though they said that they would.  The chances of them breaking out into the lay press are minuscule.  The lay press won't touch either of them unless they are sure it's real.  It begs the question again about how you qualify these kinds of things.  Why the blind belief when there is no credible data that either one of them has a working and viable system for producing commercial heat or electrical power?  That's the issue, not whether or not somebody got anomalous results in a test tube.

You are pretending that you don't need to respond to any of TK's questions about your actual setup in order to help him replicate it.  You are claiming that he is rude but you are fully aware that that's like the pot calling the kettle black.  It's just you being nervous and uncomfortable again because you can't explain some of the nuances related to your own circuit and you don't want to admit that.  I would not be surprised if you don't have the slightest clue what the green trace means.

Finally, the question about the main current loop of the circuit flowing directly through the function generator is not slipping through the cracks.  Poynt and myself want you to explain how it is that there is 1050 ohms of resistance.  Your last answer was inadequate and we don't know what you are talking about.  Why do you say the resistance is 1050 ohms?

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1525 on: March 24, 2012, 08:43:40 PM »
Rosemary, as anyone reading can tell you, the one refusing to carry on a meaningful discussion is YOU.  You are claiming a monetary prize based on the claim that your batteries have not discharged measureably even though you have done 18 months or more of testing like the one where you made the erroneous calculation AND CONCLUSION. For evidence you have offered only oscilloscope data WHICH DOES NOT SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS and .... words.

Several people posting here have proposed perfectly acceptable tests of your claims, and you find any reason you can not to perform them. Fine. I WILL PERFORM THEM, if I have to reproduce your crazy circuit down to the last error and cliplead color. When I do, you will no longer be able even to claim your prize, because I will have gotten there first. Not that I'm going to be claiming any prizes based on false claims, you understand.
So YOU HAD BETTER HURRY UP and stop maligning me and get cracking. AGREE WITH .99 or come to some acceptable compromise that ELIMINATES YOUR SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATION, and soon.

I see nothing wrong with the test I have proposed. Use an arrangement that precludes charging by the FG: I have shown how this can be done, by one of many methods. Personally I would use an optoisolator. Maybe someone can explain that to you; you will still get your oscillations (I think) even with the optoisolator preventing the FG from providing power. Then have six fully charged batteries. Select three and set aside. Run your circuit, make soup or tea, HEATING A LOAD preferably to boiling, since that's easy for you, for a decent time on the other three. Let's say two or three days. Video using a timelapse webcam -- twenty dollars for the camera and free software. Your grandchild can probably help you here. Then take those batteries and the ones that were set aside and do a "dark bulb" rundown comparison, again on timelapse video. It would be best if you use low-capacity batteries, but if you want to use your 40 A-H ones, fine. But you will have to charge them conventionally first.

First bulb to go dark..... loses. Repeat the test a few times, randomizing and conventionally recharging the batteries before each test. Three out of five for the big win.

And not a single instrumental measurement or interpretation need be done by anyone anywhere, except for the "smart" automatic automotive battery charger deciding when the battery is fully charged.

I think .99's test is better and should be performed as soon as possible. But for a test that would convince ANYBODY (if done honestly) do mine. Harvey's actually, since I think he first proposed it waaay back when you were annoying the Energetic Forum with your nonsense.


OH... and I take back what I said about you being an ineffectual old woman. In fact I think that you are a genuinely evil withered and dessicated crone, the very definition of an under-the-bridge dwelling troll, getting off on making people react to you. Comparing me to Hitler--- and using my alleged "shortness" as "evidence" in support...... you really are an evil crone.

Bear in mind, please.... the owner of this thread lives in Germany, and might be able to illustrate one or two differences between me and dear Adolph. Or are you as naive about history as you are about mathematics, physics, electronics, publishing standards, editorial requirements and science in general?

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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1526 on: March 24, 2012, 08:57:56 PM »
TK,

It looks like you are getting very close there. Where is the 0-line for the Drain voltage? Can we get a zoom-in on the Drain wave form?

The only difference I see so far is the gradual turn-on, and turn-off of the oscillation absent in your wave form. This could be due to the larger capacitance associated with the PG50 vs. your 830's.

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« Reply #1527 on: March 24, 2012, 09:44:29 PM »
As one of the 3 occasional viewers of this soap opera, I've been struggling
with trying to find an analogy for what's going on here. It's not a debate,
it's not all that scientific (some is), it's not respectful (some is), it's not very
productive, and definitely not dull.


It's not bullies against a weakling.
It's not MIB against the courageous.
It's not the little guy fighting TPTB.


But you know what really fits? Comedians mocking religions.
On the one side are groups determined to believe everything from the distant
past that was created to control them, and on the other side a group of
irreverent souls that know they have a goldmine of material that can't be
defended that's just waiting for the perfect punchline.


I can now follow this better knowing the stage it's on.


tak




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Re: another small breakthrough on our NERD technology.
« Reply #1528 on: March 24, 2012, 10:01:49 PM »
TK,

It looks like you are getting very close there. Where is the 0-line for the Drain voltage? Can we get a zoom-in on the Drain wave form?

The only difference I see so far is the gradual turn-on, and turn-off of the oscillation absent in your wave form. This could be due to the larger capacitance associated with the PG50 vs. your 830's.
The zero line for the drain voltage (looking at it DC coupled) is about 20 volts below the level of the horizontal line that breaks into oscillations. This whole waveform can be moved around quite a bit using the FG's amplitude and offset controls, but appears just fine at zero offset (using a +- square wave) when the amplitude gets over about 7 v p-p.
I'm not sure I know what you mean about "gradual turn on". In Rosemary's video they are using 10 Hz from the FG. My scope can't display a stable trace that slow--, nor can I "freeze" the trace like the Tek can do. The screenshots of my oscs are taken with 1kHz from the FG, but... and I just checked to be quite sure -- the oscs are there at 10 Hz too and look just like hers to my eye....
I'll get a zoom in in a few minutes so we can see the frequency.

Meanwhile... what do YOU, that is, .99, think of using an optocoupler circuit to isolate the FG from the current path? At this point--- since I now agree with humburger that the oscs are completely caused by the stray inductances rather than a groundloop pathway.... I don't think the oscs would be affected by this kind of coupling. But I don't know for sure and I don't have the components on hand to check. Maybe someone could sim it?
This is the kind of thing I mean:

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« Reply #1529 on: March 24, 2012, 10:29:04 PM »
OK... recall that the FG in the Ainslie demo video is set at 10 Hz, confirmed by the scope trace timebase setting.
My scope won't be interpretable over the internet at 10 Hz. My earlier photos were taken at 1 kHz from the FG.

In the first photo:
Here I've set the FG to drive the circuit at 100 kiloHertz. The scope's timebase is set to 2 microseconds per division. The bottom trace , the common drains, is DC coupled, 50 volts per division, and the baseline is at one full division below the bottom edge of the blue tape (sorry, I should have changed the tape, will do next time). (Perspective makes the tape look higher than it is; I mean the scale division line a FULL division below, not the one right at the tape). So to my eye the straight-across level looks to be about 20 volts. And these look like 8 periods per 2 microseconds, or about 4 MHz... higher than I expected.

In the second photo:
Here I've set the FG to drive the circuit at 100 Hz, but I've cranked the timebase up to 1 microsecond per division. Channel settings the same as before.

(the FG was set to zero offset for these tests, the FG trace is set to 5 volts per division)

It looks to me like the oscs are at about 4 MHz in any case regardless of the stimulus. I'll try to get a precise value with the Philips counter if it seems important.

(It's also important to realize that this is NOT a true 2 beam scope; it's a 2-channel scope, and here it's being used in "alt" mode to display both channels at once. This can result in incorrect time synchronization between the two traces sometimes, so try not to read too much into the displayed phase relationships. Know your gear ! I wish I had my old Philips dualbeam scope here.... )

 

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