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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #720 on: March 06, 2012, 07:03:40 PM »
Failing health is never good to hear about.I have cataracts and will have surgery to remove them soon,next couple of months I figure.Then I can see clearly again.I have been told its a walk in the park.I hope so.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #721 on: March 06, 2012, 07:22:54 PM »
Its been 72 hours since I put together my buttermilk cells.I just sealed them with more glue-all and mortons salt sub.I will seal them with wax about 48 hours or longer from now.I saw black corrosion for the first time on my magnesium strips and green corrosion on the copper electrodes.So much for buttermilk protecting anything I guess.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #722 on: March 07, 2012, 03:22:52 AM »
I put together a high voltage salt water capacitor tonight and hooked it up to two cells that were powering a small Led.Ill read the voltage in the morning.I expect the cells to charge it up to their combined voltage and no more.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #723 on: March 07, 2012, 04:14:37 AM »
Its been 72 hours since I put together my buttermilk cells.I just sealed them with more glue-all and mortons salt sub.I will seal them with wax about 48 hours or longer from now.I saw black corrosion for the first time on my magnesium strips and green corrosion on the copper electrodes.So much for buttermilk protecting anything I guess.triffid

Black on the magnesium is good triffid! Green on the copper not so good...
I finally got to make a cell tonight! Four carbon electrodes and one aluminum in the middle... Looks like one of the carbon electrodes doesn't work as well as the others but I will post more on that cell in a day or two. Got a nice hard mix fairly quickly (15mins!) out of what I used: 1/3 cup Durhams, 1/3 cup finely crushed epsom salt, and 2 TBsp H2O. Not the voltage readings I'm after but it continues to prove the point about multiple 'trodes... Need to test more...

Happy experimenting everyone!
PC

(EDIT: Sorry to hear about the ill health there guys... Best wishes!)

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #724 on: March 07, 2012, 08:58:08 AM »
in case it has not been pointed out so far :
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-efficiency.html
( similar principle then the crystal cells )

jbignes5

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #725 on: March 07, 2012, 03:44:00 PM »
I knew it.. Leds do have a coast mode. And this is why some have great reports for many many lights in a row! Now we know why.


 But is it related? Well sort of. I think it is the diode that we should be interested in and not the light emitting part. The light emitting part is only half of the picture here. Maybe just maybe this is what Dr. Moray found out. except this was with a huge diode he created and of course higher currents but the same voltages. This brings up what he tuned the diodes to react to and hence the long wire for the antenna.


 If we start to look at the setup we could understand the process he used. The bigger the diode the harder we can push the cells before reverse conduction begins. You could think of it as a chamber that holds water. Now divide the water with a flat plane like a sheet of glass. Now when you shake it back and forth across the plane it will splash up and down as well. This action will also toss some water back and forth between the two halves. The diode it appears is the glass separator. the larger the surface area of the diode the larger the divider becomes and the less break down between the two divisions of liquid. But they are both diamagnetic. They react weakly with each other. Since water is highly resistant to pressures you can modulate one end and still get the same modulation out of the other end, even with the divider(diode). This is because of the diamagenetic effect between two surfaces of water. No direct connection is allowed normally and since the plates are very very close there will also be a certain capacity as well. So we have a inductive component as well as a capacitance to hold the reaction. Once the capacitance is fulfilled the rest flows around it and conducts in a reverse direction. Kinda like a speed bump with our current technology.


 What I think we are trying to create is a process that has little room for travel. Meaning a locked in conduction path that can be expanded through growth of a crystal.


 Crystals are very very important and through exploration of their geometry you will understand the complex flows they create. Not only are they a very very big surface areas, they take water to make. Yes even diamonds take water. Thats usually held in the carbon. I believe that crystals can be used as a one way valve. A modulated one way valve. A transistor on the molecular scale. This is done by modulating the tank instead of the valve and let the valve use the waves to self actuate via wavering voltage pressure. We also have to program the growth via the active growth method. This growth method is pretty self adjusted and is usually termed stamina in areas like biology. Workout then rest, work out then rest. This lets defects remove themselves by natural selection and then allow for rebuilding of weak portions of the cells via rest periods.


 So in my honest opinion the diodes we need to make will be substantial in surface area. They will have a crystalline subdivision to create a focusing effect and be split from end to end. My new design will be two electrodes that are external. one on each side of the component. They will be exposed to one side of the environment and be a part of the container for the crystalline structure. And there should be a center neutral conductor to receive the amplified output. Gold being my first thought then carbon/graphite. Each side will have it's own potential when referenced to the center electrode or a wide separation of the sides when referenced to each other. When we modulate between the outer electrodes the center electrode should be amplified through the crystal then deposited to the center electrode. Maybe. I have not tested this idea completely yet.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #726 on: March 07, 2012, 05:07:51 PM »



 My proposed plan is to try the triode type method. like stated already in the above post.


 The cell would then be hooked to a mag-amp with the center electrode going to the signal input of the mag amp. The mag amp is them bridging the two electrodes as the collector emitter. This is a self charging active transistor. I am thinking that  they work on a frequency we have not understood very well.


 As we are finding out space is rife with audio. Nasa listens very carefully to those sounds after they have been converted. This is a very noisy universe we live in. Once we tap into this natural power we must be vigilant that it does not get perverted. With all of it's apparent powers, is that it has no limits. But it does have it's effects if it is not handled with the respect it needs to be handled with. Tesla was very clear about the frequencies used. That energy could be tuned by the device to supply just about anything one wanted. From light to heat to spontaneous light and heat that was no where near the device.


 Tesla's way to get this frequency was to use nature itself. The magnetic spark gap was pure genius. an analogue device that used the fabric of space to provide any frequency he desired. He so chose the higher potentials to stimulate a hug chunk of the environment around the device. B ut that is not necessary. If one thought about it as we are in the pressure already all one would have to do was poke a hole and control the holes size to regulate the flow.


Bah I'm floating again...

jbignes5

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #727 on: March 07, 2012, 06:29:05 PM »


 We also have to understand that if thought out well we could design a universal capacitor. This is a device that will store huge amounts of energy. We do this by coupling a few Tesla design methods. One being the bifilar pancake coil and immersible oil bath dielectrics. One thing I got from the whole Tesla bit was that oils tend to make the fields contained with a dynamic flow to it.


 What if we redesign the capacitors we would need to generate the power. The caps would become units of parallel bi-metal Tesla flat bifilar coils suspended in an oil bath with a glass or plastic insert to hold the coils up. The bimetal is the active portion and just means two different metals are fused together in the traditional design. One wire is made of copper lets say and the other magnesium. The outside of that should be a can of aluminum. The many parallel coils would reduce it's resistance and majorly increase it's current output! It's power would be immense if done on a larger scale. These would be great devices of a surface that is more powerful then any suns capability. It's ability to maintain a charge will  be immense once it is started. Cooling of the device should be thought of in the design of the aluminum can before any attempts to try this experiment. We barely know the abilities of this kind of device using these kind of fields. I am sure the aluminum can must be engineered to be a super structure to contain the fields. Heating issues will be a problem but aluminum does have it strength if properly alloyed. The can in this case is just a static reflector. A shaped reflector that must be able to handle huge pressures. We could always use multiple reflectors on the outside in order to back up the interior reflectors.


 Shields and technology then would become enhancing the field already there around that object. Polarizing would enhance this field and we can now polarize at the frequency of that matter. We just need to feed it back via static induction and we can now do that through magnetic amplifiers. The only problem is physical then. If the shell breaks so does the field.

triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #728 on: March 07, 2012, 10:28:30 PM »
What one reader posted about 230%efficient LED article 
Mar 05, 2012 Rank: [color=rgb(139, 0, 0) !important]3.3[/color] / 5 (6)
This LED is not 100% efficient, it just employs thermoelectric current instead of galvanic one. You can power the normal LED with thermocouple with the same result. In this rudimentary case the PN junction inside of LED just serves as such thermocouple.http://www.youtub...D2pxvxgUreport[/li]
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #729 on: March 07, 2012, 10:39:17 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=JQUY_bs59a4   He gets 80 mas from a thermocouple junction with a clamp on volt meter So he provides no load.  triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #730 on: March 07, 2012, 10:47:15 PM »
Another reader posted this tidbit from the LED article  Unless it is meant to be a shock article, it is completely commonplace for a diode to emit light, even when no voltage is applied at all! Quoting a photonics textbook:[/size]
"At room temperature, the intrinsic concentration of electrons and holes in GaAs is n1 == 1.8 * 10^6 cm^-3. Since the radiative electron-hole recombination coefficient rr == 10^-10 cm^3/s, the electroluminescence rate Rrnp=RrN^2i == 324 photons/ cm^3-s... this corresponds to an optical power density == 7.4 * 10^-17 W/cm^3."Photodiodes will emit light on their own, and a semiconductor with a lower bandgap will emit even more equilibrium light than GaAs. Since clearly this is a non-equilibrium system, there is probably more to it than just that.report[/li]
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #731 on: March 07, 2012, 10:52:39 PM »
 GaAs is ten times faster than silicon when its used to make a chip according to a MIT lecture I saw online.Same design but use a different material( GaAs)   and you get chips that are ten times faster than silicon chips.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #732 on: March 07, 2012, 11:09:42 PM »
12 gauge copper wire and 14 gauge steel wire might produce more amps in my cells.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #733 on: March 08, 2012, 01:42:41 AM »
What one reader posted about 230%efficient LED article 
Mar 05, 2012 Rank: [color=rgb(139, 0, 0) !important]3.3[/color] / 5 (6)
This LED is not 100% efficient, it just employs thermoelectric current instead of galvanic one. You can power the normal LED with thermocouple with the same result. In this rudimentary case the PN junction inside of LED just serves as such thermocouple.http://www.youtub...D2pxvxgUreport[/li]
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Thank you for showing us the two copper thermocouple videos, this was a really cool video. I always thought in-order to make a thermocouple you needed two dissimilar metals and heat one of them, I never knew you could do it with just copper!  :)

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #734 on: March 08, 2012, 01:45:03 AM »
I'm working on a concept for a new circuit that be able to power LED on micro-amps. The proof of concept worked but more testing is underway.