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Author Topic: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells  (Read 765513 times)

triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #285 on: January 17, 2012, 04:15:50 PM »
I got the nu-salt at a grocery store named Schnucks. Theres a big chain of them here in st.Louis,mo..My control is holding at about .011 volts.My control is just mortons salt sub and elmers glue- all, copper and aluminum wires.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #286 on: January 17, 2012, 04:23:18 PM »
IB2,when you did your video on squeezing your big blue cell to get more amps.Did you get some idea of your voltages?Did you get about 80 volts out of it when you were at your max amperage?triffid




I no longer think that atmospheric pressure is responsible,Just quantum pressure.
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #287 on: January 17, 2012, 04:31:17 PM »
I do think that all vibrations help to jiggle these casimir plates so higher temps making more power is not a complete shock to me.Maybe air pressure helps a little but not as much as I thought in the beginning.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #288 on: January 18, 2012, 05:08:32 PM »
So now its been 70 hours(almost three days) since I made my last two cells.My voltages from my latest two cells are  .10 and .003 volts.These are the two cells I made with morton Salt sub.Yesterday they were reading .4 and .33 volts.So I don't know what to think right now.The tin can lid cell I made with a copper plated disk is steady at .015 volts.That the one I never stirred.So far my cells are not producing the voltages they are supposed to produce so what gives?My magnesium is not here yet.Yesterday was a day of rain but they were inside and the weather the last two or three days has been cold.I have been warm enough inside the house for me anyway.I will have to spend some time thinking about this.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #289 on: January 18, 2012, 05:43:27 PM »
Quote from: triffid on January 18, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
So now its been 70 hours(almost three days) since I made my last two cells.My voltages from my latest two cells are  .10 and .003 volts.These are the two cells I made with morton Salt sub.Yesterday they were reading .4 and .33 volts.So I don't know what to think right now.The tin can lid cell I made with a copper plated disk is steady at .015 volts.That the one I never stirred.So far my cells are not producing the voltages they are supposed to produce so what gives?My magnesium is not here yet.Yesterday was a day of rain but they were inside and the weather the last two or three days has been cold.I have been warm enough inside the house for me anyway.I will have to spend some time thinking about this.triffid


Are you sure you're using the correct glue, Elmer's Glue-all not school glue. If you can post pictures of the cells and how you make them would be helpful.


Are you adding the salt substitute and Epsom salt together when you mix it into the glue? If your just using Salt substitute than the cell will never work, you must add salt substitute and Epsom salt together into the glue.


How about taking a strip of paper and getting it wet and rubbing salt substitute and Epsom salt into the paper, wrap the paper around you copper and aluminum wires making sure the metals don't touch. Allow the cell to dry overnight and it should around 400mV. This cell eliminates the Glue factor and this cells should work.


I find it odd that the cells are not working for you, we will get them working for you but I need at least some pictures or videos of what you're doing; a picture is worth a 1000 words.
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #290 on: January 19, 2012, 12:08:15 AM »
I got my magnesium today.So I made more cells (2) with just copper wires and magnesium strips.I got about 1.5 volts on the first one when wet.I had trouble with the second one bouncing all around.Then I made three more with tin can lids two with magnesium strips(about 1.3 volts wet) and the third one I did not stir.And used a copper plated zinc disk to see if I could get the same results.I did use elmers glue-all.I did not get the voltage of that one.I got a glimspe maybe of what I am doing wrong.Its in the mixing(stirring)I stroked a magnet 20 times across one tin can lid cell and lost the voltage,it went down to zero.(I had it as high as 1.3 volts and it went down to zero).I will see if I can get some pictures posted.My cell phone should be able to take some.I am having a hard time getting pictures to my email account.I may have to go to the t-mobile store to have them help me. I was upset when I read such low voltages this morning.With the second mg/copper cell I could not get the voltage to settle.So after about 5 minutes of messing with it I went on to the tin can lid cells.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #291 on: January 19, 2012, 12:16:05 AM »
When I put the glue on the cardboard
I make a spot about an inch across
I sprinkle the salt sub on it like an egg
I stirr it a little with the copper wire like in your video and i insert the copper wire into the mass
then I add the epson salts to the top of it I stir that into the mass wiith the magnesium strip and insert the magnesium strip into the mass
I then sprinkle more salt sub on top of this.In about ten minutes later it is difficult to move the wires around any more.With the elmers glue-all it wants to harden pretty fast.
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #292 on: January 19, 2012, 01:51:41 AM »
Quote from: triffid on January 19, 2012, 12:16:05 AM
When I put the glue on the cardboard
I make a spot about an inch across
I sprinkle the salt sub on it like an egg
I stirr it a little with the copper wire like in your video and i insert the copper wire into the mass
then I add the epson salts to the top of it I stir that into the mass wiith the magnesium strip and insert the magnesium strip into the mass
I then sprinkle more salt sub on top of this.In about ten minutes later it is difficult to move the wires around any more.With the elmers glue-all it wants to harden pretty fast.


Have tried adding salt substitute and Epsom salt into the glue at the same time and then stir it? if the cells with the magnesium and copper go below 1.1 volts than it is not made right, they should easily hang above 1.3 volts. If you need me to make a new video about to make the crystal glue cell with the magnesium i can make one tomorrow. I don't know if it matters, it shouldn't matter, but have you tried using Notebook paper to place you cell on? Sometimes the copper will turn green as it dries, has that happen to you? What part of the world do you live at, I'm wondering if it really dry where you live?  :)
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #293 on: January 19, 2012, 09:46:16 AM »
Central USA St.Louis,mo is where I live.Number 48 state in the union on the list of 50 states for economic growth in the union at this time.It is a state of misery for a lot of people.I think you stir your chemicals a lot more than I thought.In the beginning I stirred everything together and put it on a piece pf cardboard,(no voltage).If you make another video you need to weigh out exact amounts on a triple beam balance .So many grams of this salt sub,so many grams of epson salts.I noticed last night in your video you barely insert your electrodes in the glue mass.I  have been buring mine almost all the way in.Leaving a little part sticking out to test the voltmeter on.I tried notebook paper only for the control.My cardboard has been coming from hamburger helper boxes.From family dollar.I eat a lot of noodles.Its been 14 hours since I made all five of the new cells .The two cells on cardboard with mg/cu wire read 1.34 volts and 1.1 volts(yeah its most likely is messed up).The tincan lid cell with copper plated zinc disk is reading .25 volts just like the one before it.The other two tin can lid cells made with mg did not give me any readings at first.I had to poke around on them.In the crystal itself.I got 1.1 volts one time by touching the tin can lids together (in parallel) and touching the mg strip on the other cell.Its confusing to me too.The tin can lid cells are my doing so Im branching out in a different direction than you IB2.Those materials are nearly free to me.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #294 on: January 19, 2012, 10:02:37 AM »
I am making progress here.Even if its only one cell at a time.Once again I did not stir the tin can lid cells so I made three of those without stirring.The cells on cardboard I stirred.The first one went ok.The second one I messed up on somehow.It started getting hard really quick and I inserted the wires nearly 3/4 of the way in.(unlike your video IB2).It seems if I handle them too much I mess them up.I do try to keep the electrodes from touching.I retired here from texas in 2010.There were cheap houses here and I bought one cash money so I own my own house here(unlike texas)..I also have some family here.I took a picture last night I will go to t-mobile today to see if I can get help sending the picture to my email account.I can then download it here.Wish me luck.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #295 on: January 19, 2012, 10:14:45 AM »
To answer a couple of your questions I have no green copper and I stirred the salt sub into the glue along with epson salts.I noticed you just barely prick the blob with your wires so I have tried to bury my wires into the blob mass.A big difference there.On the tin can cells,no stirring and I drop the metal on top and press down a little.I noticed you stirred your cells a lot more than I had thought.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #296 on: January 19, 2012, 07:01:47 PM »
 :)
Here is a video showing the duration test running on a few of my favorite crystal cells.  Notice the cell connected to the “PENNY” circuit is ibpointless2 original “STOVE TOP” cell encased in liquid plastic.  This cell has powered this circuit for over 4 months without any maintenance. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mivvIYeQV30
 
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #297 on: January 19, 2012, 07:17:05 PM »
Quote from: b_rads on January 19, 2012, 07:01:47 PM
:)
Here is a video showing the duration test running on a few of my favorite crystal cells.  Notice the cell connected to the “PENNY” circuit is ibpointless2 original “STOVE TOP” cell encased in liquid plastic.  This cell has powered this circuit for over 4 months without any maintenance. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mivvIYeQV30
 
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Great Video!



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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #298 on: January 19, 2012, 10:39:27 PM »
I went to the t-mobile store today like I said I would and asked for help in posting my two photos to the internet.I was told for the first time that my phone is only good for texting and calling.It can take pictures but it will not post them to my email account.Since I have had the phone for 6 months I was told I was due for an upgrade in 6 more months.I can get a free phone then but if I got it today I would have to pay full retail of $280.00.In the past I managed to to send a picture or two off but it was a pain in the (.......) to do so.My last phone before this one could take pictures but only send one at a time.SO I WILL SAY IT NOW T-MOBILE WILL SELL YOU A PHONE THAT CANNOT POST PICTURES TO THE INTERNET.So beware the new phone you get may only be good  only for calling and texting.I may upgrade to a whole different company.
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #299 on: January 19, 2012, 10:49:09 PM »
Not to worry I may upgrade to net 10 tomorrow.Or buy a disposable camera take pictures get it developed at a drugstore and order the cd at the same time.Two more weeks maybe.triffid
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