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Author Topic: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells  (Read 765493 times)

NickZ

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #240 on: January 09, 2012, 08:03:11 PM »
  @Triffid:
   If you use pencil leads (or 1/4" to 1/2'" copper tube), and wrap aluminum wire or magnesium ribbon, as the two electrodes, you should get at least a volt.
But not using pencil leads and copper wire. 
  The most important point is not to let the glue touch both metals, (or the metal and pencil leads), or you are going to short circuit the cell every time. 
There MUST BE A ELECTROLYTE SEPARATOR between the two metals or metal and pencil leads, but NO direct contact between the two electrodes.
  I would recommend using the carpenter pencil leads and aluminum wire as the electrodes, but with a single layer of wet paper towel separating them. 
Once you get this to work, then you can brush on or spray on the salt mix onto the paper electrolyte, and once this has totally dried out you can seal the cell with white glue, 5 minute E-poxy, or casting resin, but, don't let the two electrodes make direct contact with the glue, as it has water in it, and will short out the cell.
  I believe that this has been your problem up to now.
   Good luck,
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #241 on: January 10, 2012, 03:21:38 AM »
Its 8:19pm(22 hours) and the latest cell has dropped to .430 volts.So I will make two more cells tonight and see if I get the same results.
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #242 on: January 10, 2012, 04:41:26 PM »
Bad news that voltage dropped to .22 volts this morning.I must be using low quality aluminum?I did not use store bought aluminum wire cuz I had some junk aluminum on hand.That said,I will try to get aluminum wire from somewhere and some magnesium metal strips from somewhere and keep trying.I did not short out my electrodes and the pencil leads are too thin and fragile to wrap anything around them.I did make two more cells last night.They are drying now.I will not test them until tomorrow.And post the results here in the interest of open-sourcing.triffid
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NickZ

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #243 on: January 10, 2012, 05:22:41 PM »
  There are videos on YouTube showing how several of the thin pencil leads can be wrapped with aluminum foil to make a cell. It can be done using just the wet paper towel between the electrodes at first to see what you get, If you add any salts to the paper electrolyte the aluminum foil will quickly get eaten up, as it is all expose to the open air. Any cells using salts needs to be sealed airtight.
  Carbon rods can be obtained at some crafts or artist supply stores. But the highest voltages have been obtained from the thin pencil leads, or carpenter pencil leads.
  I use empty aluminum capacitor cans filled with wood carbon or charcoal briquettes, and pencil leads for the center electrode, and get about a volt. These are non-galvanic cells, and can be placed in series to obtain the voltage needed.


   @ Ib2:  What is the current output of your first "Blue cell", now?
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #244 on: January 11, 2012, 05:08:28 AM »
I put together two new cells today using aluminum wire and copper wire.It seems the glue sets up faster than I thought.In about ten minutes its pretty hard.It could be Im not using enough epson salts?If I dont get the proper voltages here.I will increase the amount of epson salts next.The next time I make more cells that is.triffid
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #245 on: January 11, 2012, 05:14:15 AM »
Nickz ,I will look for those videos on u-tube.Thank you for your help.I do have aluminum foil and a steady supply of thin pencil leads.No magnesium yet.triffid
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #246 on: January 11, 2012, 05:25:51 AM »
Hold the train!I just found out that Morton salt sub is different from Nu-Salt salt sub


Morton's Salt substitute contains:
Potassium chloride, fumaric acid, tricalcium phoshate and monocalcium phosphate.


Nu-Salt does not contain     fumaric acid, tricalcium phoshate and monocalcium phosphate.


So I may need to change my salt sub to Morton


Which means tomorrow I spend some time looking for it!triffid
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ibpointless2

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #247 on: January 11, 2012, 01:14:04 PM »
@triffid


I've gotten Morton salt sub at Walmart and Lowes foods before.
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #248 on: January 11, 2012, 06:22:35 PM »
I did not find any mortons salt sub today.The nearest walmart I know about is 30 miles away but I go there once in a while.I will look for it there when I go again.My two cells I made two nights ago are reading .25 and .008 volts this morning.I hope it is the salt sub that is the problem.triffid
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #249 on: January 12, 2012, 12:22:29 AM »
@triffid


It could be the metal you're using too. Make sure the metal you're using is what you think it is, sometimes steel looks like aluminum. I bought some aluminum wire off Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/Fi-Shock-FW-00018D-250-Feet-Gauge-Aluminum/dp/B000FPCDRS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1326323879&sr=8-1).


The Copper I use is from Lowes in the wire section for hanging things and not the electrical wire section but both are the same except the hanging copper wire does not have a insulator on it. The part number for the copper wire i use is 123109, its 18 gauge.



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ibpointless2

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #250 on: January 12, 2012, 08:40:16 PM »
Hi Triffid, If you could please post what "nu-salt" salt substitute contains (should be on the package) so that I can see what Morton has different in there salt sub.
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #251 on: January 13, 2012, 01:02:44 AM »
Ok ,Nu-Salt has potassium chloride,less than 1% of cream of tartar,Silicon dioxide,and natural flavor.Thats all of what it says on the container.



48 hours later,
Final readings on my latest two cells with aluminum wire and copper wire reads .20 and .20 volts.The aluminum wire was leftover scrap from an electrical job on the house I'm in.So it's good aluminum.IB2.I bought the same copper wire as you did from Lowes.There snow everywhere here in St.Louis,mo. right now so I will not be venturing out anywhere until this snow melts.Next week sometime.




It must the Salt Sub thats wrong.


                                                                                                best regards,triffid



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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #252 on: January 13, 2012, 01:12:16 AM »
IB2,You posted a video where you showed a voltage from a mineral.I dont think I caught the name of that mineral.Could you give us the name? Thanks,Triffid
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #253 on: January 13, 2012, 01:23:58 AM »
A better explanation of the casimir effect than I had posted before.These batteries work on quantum pressures(in theory).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPzlv6cvs8A&feature=related  triffid




IB2,You posted this video and showed an increase in microamps from 2 or 3 to about 170.I theorize that as you applied pressure you distorted the lattice structure of your crystal to make better use of the standing waves inside your casimir plates(in the direction of the squeeze).   http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=jKebSvX76q8




In a way you could compare it to an uneven shoreline on the ocean.When waves break upon the beach.Some places they dont do much.Other places they shoot straight up in the air a dozen feet or more.
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triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #254 on: January 13, 2012, 08:13:17 AM »
Even though fuzzy the audio is clear the hopes and dreams plus a good explanation of the casimir effect.Also locates the free energy part of the spectrum on the electromagnetic spectrum.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-wzLhzBH3Y  part1/3   triffid




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OQA01sqZ_M&feature=related  part 2/3




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2VeISnMHY8&feature=related  part3/3




Each part is about 15 minutes long and one of them explains why and how these batteries can reverse their voltage and act so crazy in general.
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