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Author Topic: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells  (Read 657000 times)

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #210 on: January 03, 2012, 11:31:24 PM »
Its been 48 hours since i made my first glue cell so its been drying since then But  I don't detect any voltage coming out of my cell.I went to Radio Shack today to buy a voltmeter and the lady clerk failed to tell me I need to buy a special 12 volt battery to put in the thing.So I brought it home and could not use it.I then hooked up two wires to a old speaker got lots of static from a 1.5 battery.But when I hooked up the glue cell I got nothing at all.No static nothing.Of Course when I made the cell I was guessing at methods and it was before I saw A video clip on how to make them.So I will try again soon to make some more.Meanwhile I will get that 12 volt battery from Radio Shack.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #210 on: January 03, 2012, 11:31:24 PM »

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« Reply #211 on: January 04, 2012, 08:19:49 PM »
Got my voltmeter to working.I went to radio shack and they installed one(battery) at no additional cost to me.This voltmeter reads to the thousands of a volt so its an upgrade for me.I am making more glue cells today.No voltage from my first cell even with the voltmeter.According to IB2's video.The cell is made in layers.
glue first on cardboard backing
salt sub,stir a little
epson salt
salt sub again,no stirring
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Like layers of a sandwich.triffid

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« Reply #212 on: January 04, 2012, 11:22:37 PM »
I made three more glue cells today.Now waiting for them to dry.Then check voltages.One thing I noticed there is a lot of waste of both salt sub and epson salts. Ib2,your videos show a lot of dust on your tables.I used a large frying pan to make mine in so the excess did not go on my table but into the pan for easy cleanup.I threw it down the sink this time but now I realize these two might make a heck of an electrolyte for experimenting.But they are cheap .I have used epson salts as an electrolyte wondering what would happen?Add salt sub to that and??
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« Reply #212 on: January 04, 2012, 11:22:37 PM »
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #213 on: January 05, 2012, 12:19:57 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8X7VRoxGs&feature=related   Great news although still wet two of my cells show .5 volts.
maybe when dry they will still produce a voltage?triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #214 on: January 05, 2012, 02:13:35 AM »
@triffid


What metals are you using?

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« Reply #215 on: January 06, 2012, 01:31:43 AM »
I used aluminum and aluminum on one cell
copper and aluminum on the other two cells
I forgot to stir one of them.The other two were stirred.
When wet the copper and aluminum showed.52 volts easy.
The other cell showed.018 volts when wet(same metal).
Now 30 hours later the cell not stirred shows a voltage running about.145.The other two show nothing at .001 volts


So the cell where I forgot to stir the salt sub into the glue now produces the highest voltage.I noticed on the underside of all of the cardboard squares an area that feels like sandpaper.So that tells me dissolved chemicals made their way through the cardboard during the drying process.


If it is producing power tomorrow I will consider it a limited success.
I used aluminum pull tabs from soda cans since they were on hand and leftover pieces of copper wire from an electrical job on the house I'm in.They too were on hand. triffid

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« Reply #216 on: January 06, 2012, 01:37:20 AM »
It looks like to me that these chemicals need to be layered not stirred at all except for getting the metal electrodes into the mass.Then you have to poke them in a little.triffid

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« Reply #217 on: January 06, 2012, 01:46:18 AM »
Other metals I have on hand are tin can lids and copper discs.I will try those next.I used elmers school glue IB2 said to use elmers glue all.
I will have to make more cells.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #218 on: January 06, 2012, 02:15:56 AM »
@triffid


Elmer's School glue and Elmer's Glue All are two very different glues, its best to use the Glue all.

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« Reply #219 on: January 06, 2012, 03:50:37 AM »
My one good cell is still producing over.145 volts with readings close to .199 volts.It does jump around a little. its about 31 hours.triffid
Maybe pressure sensitive?

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #220 on: January 06, 2012, 04:13:40 AM »
IB2 That why I mentioned what I had used.I was afraid the glue was too different.I caught that your glue was different from mine.After about the tenth video viewing.triffid

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« Reply #221 on: January 06, 2012, 04:17:08 AM »
At least I am experimenting again.Not with dangerous acids and bases.Very Very safe materials it seems.triffid

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« Reply #222 on: January 06, 2012, 06:12:48 PM »
ok now I bought some elmers glueall.I will make more glue cells tonight.My best cell so far is producing .09 volts almost 45 hours later.thats almost a tenth of a volt.So now if I can avoid breaking the cell.I can check on it tomorrow.triffid

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« Reply #223 on: January 07, 2012, 09:06:38 PM »
My one working cell is producing .011 volts 72 hours after I first glue it together.It appears dry as a bone.I went to family dollar and bought sandpaper and pencil leads to clean wires and to use carbon as an electrode in my experiments.Sometime this weekend I will make more cells.
I had to buy more materials to work with.Lowells was expensive on their items but family dollar was cheaper on the same materials a whole lot.I saved about $5.00 buying at family dollar.I also bought a spray can of blue paint.Red Devil brand but pretty much the same as IB2's spray paint.Interior/exterior rust preventative and drys quickly for $1.25.Other metals I want to try is silver and magnesium.I will have to wait later to get them.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #224 on: January 07, 2012, 10:28:40 PM »
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If you're getting only .011 volts then you're doing something wrong. You should be getting .450 with aluminum and copper or 1.4 with copper and magnesium. Are you able to make a video of what you're doing?




 

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