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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #375 on: February 06, 2012, 11:07:30 PM »
A curious thing,do your cells get stronger when you step away?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tb2IRGXf8o&feature=related
Your body has bioelectric fields around it.Now I ask you do you feel tired around your cells? Even sometimes?triffid

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« Reply #376 on: February 06, 2012, 11:15:40 PM »
Another curious thing is induction.This is a simple one to one ratio transformer but wrap more than one turn for the secondary you get higher voltage for very little cost.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=AaYOph1I3uw  triffid

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« Reply #377 on: February 06, 2012, 11:24:05 PM »
Last Night I hooked up in series three of my cells producing 1.03 volts and got 3.00 volts.These were my tin can lid/mg cells and ran an LED off of it all night.In the morning  the voltage tested at about 2.25 volts.In the morning most of those cells are not producing 1.03 volts..
I bought paper clips to use as cheap connectors.I plan to use the copper wires out of old cords to make connections.Old cords are made of many strands of copper wire.Thin but they should carry the weak currents of these glue cells ok.Black electrical tape might help tighten connections?triffid

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« Reply #377 on: February 06, 2012, 11:24:05 PM »
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« Reply #378 on: February 06, 2012, 11:38:28 PM »
Two years ago when I finally retired I wanted to make solar panels out of solar cells.I spent $1000 on buying solar cells from Ebay.Once I bought all of those(about enough for ten panels) I realized a full half of that $1000 went for shipping and handling($500).So I stopped buying solar cells thinking there had to be a better way.Here with the glue power cells I can buy most of my materials in the grocery stores where everyone has shared the cost of shipping and handling with me already.Hence My mindset towards turning these things into panels.I want to build rock cell panels now.They don't need sunlight.They run day and night.With that in mind I realized Im not where I want to be.One panel the cells dont add up properly.Maybe a chemical is leached from the cardboard(of the 30 count egg cartons) when the cells are wet?Adding resistance to the cells that I do not want? The tin can lid/mg cells added up great last night.Three one volt cells added up to three volts.They did not touch cardboard when they were drying.triffid

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« Reply #379 on: February 06, 2012, 11:46:38 PM »
In the future I plan to solder connections where I can.I cant solder magnesium without starting a fire.The tin can lids can take solder If I cut a strip of it and push it to the side without breaking it off. triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #380 on: February 06, 2012, 11:53:24 PM »
  If I were you I would continue with the solar cells.  As it would take about 1.235.545 of these crystal cells to make the same amount of power.  As there is no current to them, and without current you'll see that the leds won't light very bright, if at all.  Once your cells drop a bit more the leds will stop lighting. This will probably take another day or two.
Let me know if I'm wrong...

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« Reply #381 on: February 07, 2012, 01:45:57 AM »
These panels here I can almost make for the price of food.I dont eat glue or copper wire of course or magnesium strip metal for that matter.I can make copper oxide solar cells which I did back in the early 1990s.They are less than one percent efficient.I see some use of it here in the crystal cells but it is a solar cell(the red oxide).I thought what I would do is make about four of these cells to fit inside a glass jar.Hook them up in series and run an LED off of them.Have a fully selfcontained LED nightlight that I can show off to some people.See how long that would last?




Other question I have is did my elmers school glue did not work because I did not have the right salt sub?


Also did you guys normal table salt cells not work because it had no fumaric acid in it?


If fumaric acid made my cells work would adding it to normal table salt cells make them work?
I need to get some pure fumaric acid to anwser those  questions I guess?

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« Reply #382 on: February 07, 2012, 01:56:03 AM »
As a food additive, it is used as an acidity regulator and is denoted by the E number E297. Fumaric acid is a food acidulent used since 1946. It is non-toxic. It is generally used in beverages and baking powders for which requirements are placed on purity. It is generally used as a substitute for tartaric acidand occasionally in place of citric acid, at a rate of 1.36 g of citric acid to every 0.91 grams of fumaric acid to add sourness, similar to the way malic acidis used. It is also used as a coagulant in stovetop pudding mixes.[/size]
It is approved for use as a food additive in the EU[2], USA[3] and Australia and New Zealand[4] (where it is listed by its INS number 297).[/size]

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #384 on: February 07, 2012, 04:18:05 AM »
@ Triffid,
Thanks for your posts, most informative. I read in one of the earlier posts that you want Elmer's GLUE ALL, not the school glue variety you have been using. They have different ingredients apparently.
I still have a few purchases before I can start some decent long-term 'dry cell' experiments I would like to do yet, but I have been messing around a bit. I have some moist potassium chloride (Morton's salt substitute) that was measuring around 0.8v earlier when using aluminum and carbon rod.
Seems like carbon rod would work really well since it doesn't corrode and conducts like mad. Also, the carbon rod was giving me higher voltage readings than using copper instead.
@ Anyone: How much of a voltage drop is typical on a 'salt battery' cell when it dries out? I'm guessing you lose at least half...?
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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #385 on: February 07, 2012, 07:06:26 PM »
I found outday that Lo-Salt(another salt sub) is slightly radioactive.It emits alpha particles.triffid

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« Reply #385 on: February 07, 2012, 07:06:26 PM »
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« Reply #386 on: February 07, 2012, 07:07:08 PM »
Hi I found out something else.This is a list of stuff with high radioactivity,normal everyday stuff.Includes a salt sub called LO-SALT which emits alpha.



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Everyday stuff that's radioactive


Since looking for things radioactive is a hobby, I thought some of you may like to know of some things around the house that are radioactive.

Common smoke detectors use Americium-241. It measures in the "millionths" of a REM, and emits Alpha and Gamma. Don't worry about the AM 241 going stable on you, it has a half life of 432.2 years.
Also Lo salt, the salt alternative, which is Potassium Chloride emits Alpha radiaton. Bananas.
Brazil nuts, and cat litter are known low level radiation sources.
Background radiation here in southern NM is 44 CPM. (which is normal)
My granite landscaping rocks are 100-120 CPM. 2x or3x background.
Speaking of granite, maybe you should check those granite countertops. A small percentage put out substantial radioactivity.

Many of us radiation hobbyists, take our counters to garage sales, and antique shops. The old compass's, watches, and clocks, often have radium painted on. This is dangerous stuff, if you inhale, or ingest it. Old glassware, usually with a greenish tint, has uranium oxide, and is very measurable.
The Fiesta Ware from the 40's through the 60's. That beautiful orangeish-reddish that was their most popular color? They used uranium oxide to get that color, and that stuff is pretty hot.
Here is a YouTube of my measuring my Fiesta-Ware saucer from era 1959-1969.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkNRUR2cXLw
The FDA says it's okay to eat off of, but don't store food on any of it. Yeah, okay. It's not even kept in the house.
45,000 to 48,000 CPM. Very active.

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #387 on: February 07, 2012, 07:21:52 PM »
Now thats really something!Lo-Salt which I did not use is radioactive(slightly).I completed my four new cells,tin can lid/mg and now they are drying.Another 24 hours I guess I will check their voltages.triffid

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Re: Ibpointless2 Crystal Cells
« Reply #388 on: February 08, 2012, 01:27:20 AM »
Hi PhiChaser,I think the cells lose a third of their voltage as they dry.Then when a load is placed on them they go down even further.My cells are not finished as everything with me is a work in progress.I hope to find a good combination that works decent for me so I can easily make them from now on.triffid

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« Reply #389 on: February 08, 2012, 01:31:14 AM »
My first panel and second panel taught me lessons that are helping me make my third panel of four cells.This third panel I hope to fit inside a glass jar and power a LED with the energy.This will be used by me for displaying to different people that these cells work.triffid

 

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